New Member - Exploring Out-of-State Rental Opportunities

New Member - Exploring Out-of-State Rental Opportunities

Investor · Member since 2024 · 163 posts · 130 votes

Hello Everyone,

I am new to BiggerPockets and excited to connect with like-minded investors.  I am based in California but looking to invest in out-of-state rental properties to take advantage of better cash flow and more favorable price-to-rent ratios.

Right now, I am particularly interested in :

Markets with strong demand

Properties under 80k-125K (single family or small multi-family)

Areas with steady job growth and landlord-friendly regulations

My background 

• I am a military veteran.  I have also been in the federal sector for nearly 15 years and am now wanting to build a portfolio for long-term (supplemental) income and early retirement.

• I have research in various area such as Memphis, Cleveland, St. Louis and open to other suggestions

What I am hoping to learn from this group:

• How you have approached team building from a distance (agents, property managers, contractors, etc.)

• Mistakes to avoid as a new out of state investor

• Recommend neighborhoods or cities you have had success with

Overall, I am here to learn, share my journey and build relationships that lead to win-win deals.  I hope one day I will be on the other end of a similar post like this providing new investors my knowledge and insight in real estate investing.  Looking forward to connecting with you all!!

Chris R

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Rental Property Investor · Elk Grove, CA · Member since 2024 · 23 posts · 6 votes
1y

I recommend finding the agent first and make sure you have a lender to get a preapproval letter ready, so when you come across a good deal you are ready to strike on it. The agent also has people they generally recommend for you to use. Some agents help manage the rehab as well. 

Someone else also mentioned it, but figure out your buy box in the area (what property class... etc). There are some markets that fit your criteria, but they would be in C class locations. 

When investing in these areas make sure your property manager is solid. Vet them thoroughly and ask about their processes and their experience managing in the area. Since you are out of state, the property managers can give insight to the deal you are looking at as well. Make sure you talk to several property managers. 

Make sure you also do a proper inspection since this is your first. I'd recommend doing the sewer line inspection as well if the house is over 80 years old. Also would highly recommend learning a little bit about construction and what specs are generally used in rentals and when something needs to be replaced, so when you look at photos / video you have a general idea of what needs to be done. (many people overlook this). It will take a lot of the stress off if you know what you are getting yourself into --> cutting out the uncertainty.

Feel free to reach out if you have any other questions or want to chat. 




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  • Nicholas L.Pro Member
    Flipper/Rehabber · Pittsburgh · Member since 2018 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    1y

    @Christopher Rubio

    hello and welcome!  I am just going to be blunt.  that price range is going to be very, very challenging from out of state.  you likely will not cash flow due to constant vacancy, turnover, and repairs.  other investors in CA just like you buy due to that attractive price point and immediately regret it. 

    Avoid Revolution Properties LLC at all costs

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  • James WachobBusiness Member
    Real Estate Broker · Memphis, TN · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 890 votes
    1y

    Hello @Christopher Rubio,
    I work with investors who have a story similar to yours all the time.There are some affordable deals here, but most are in rough areas. A deal might look good on paper, but I wouldn’t recommend it to someone just getting started. These kinds of deals can work for investors with larger portfolios who have more cushion if things don’t go as planned.

    I suggest working with someone who offers full service, from finding the property to tenant placement and ongoing management. Starting off with a strong foundation by investing in areas where people actually want to live is key.

    Feel free to reach out—I would be happy to help in any way I can

    • Christopher RubioPro Member
      OP
      Investor · Member since 2024 · 163 posts · 130 votes
      1y
      Quote from @James Wachob:

      Hello @Christopher Rubio,
      I work with investors who have a story similar to yours all the time.There are some affordable deals here, but most are in rough areas. A deal might look good on paper, but I wouldn’t recommend it to someone just getting started. These kinds of deals can work for investors with larger portfolios who have more cushion if things don’t go as planned.

      I suggest working with someone who offers full service, from finding the property to tenant placement and ongoing management. Starting off with a strong foundation by investing in areas where people actually want to live is key.

      Feel free to reach out—I would be happy to help in any way I can


       Hi James,

      Thanks for the insight.  I really appreciate you taking the time to share that perspective.  I definitely want to start on the right foot and avoid jumping into deals that look great on paper but could end up being a headache.  I agree that working with someone who can provide full service and local market expertise is key, especially since I'm investing from out of state.  I'd love to learn more about the types of areas and property profiles you've seen work best for newer investors in Memphis.  I will shoot a DM so we can connect directly.

      Thanks again

      Christopher

  • Lender · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2025 · 59 posts · 23 votes
    1y

    Welcome Christopher and thank you for your service! 

    If you're looking to finance vs buy in cash outright a DSCR loan might be beneficial to your goals.

    I am a lender licensed in a number of states and can provide you more information about that loan type.  

    • Christopher RubioPro Member
      OP
      Investor · Member since 2024 · 163 posts · 130 votes
      1y
      Quote from @Luke Feliciano:

      Welcome Christopher and thank you for your service! 

      If you're looking to finance vs buy in cash outright a DSCR loan might be beneficial to your goals.

      I am a lender licensed in a number of states and can provide you more information about that loan type.  


       Hi Luke,

      Thank you for the warm welcome and info on DSCR loans. I have heard a bit about them through podcasts and audiobooks but haven't truly explored the details yet. Financing will likely be my route for these first few out of state deals, so I'd be interested in learning more about how DSCR loans work, the requirements, and what makes them a good fit for rental properties. I will reach out so we can connect directly.

      Thanks again

      Christopher

  • Denise SuppleeBusiness Member
    Realtor · Willow Grove, PA · Member since 2017 · 993 posts · 647 votes
    1y

    Welcome, @Christopher Rubio! Sounds like you’ve already done a lot of the homework most new out-of-state investors skip, which will serve you well. You’re spot on looking at markets with strong demand and landlord-friendly regulations, especially for building a portfolio designed for long-term cash flow.

    For team building from a distance, I've found it's worth investing the time up front to personally vet property managers and agents. A good PM is your eyes, ears, and sometimes your sanity when investing remotely. Lean on investor forums and local REIA groups in your target markets to get referrals (and honest feedback) before hiring.

    As for mistakes to avoid: don’t underestimate the importance of property management quality, and always budget extra for repairs, vacancies, and travel to your market. The “cheap” deal can quickly become expensive without solid systems in place.

    In my Co-Investing Club, we often pool resources and connections to get better access to vetted operators, markets, and deals - which can be a great way to accelerate your learning curve while reducing risk.

    You’re in the right place to find that network and turn your plan into a reality.

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    • Christopher RubioPro Member
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      Investor · Member since 2024 · 163 posts · 130 votes
      1y
      Quote from @Denise Supplee:

      Welcome, @Christopher Rubio! Sounds like you’ve already done a lot of the homework most new out-of-state investors skip, which will serve you well. You’re spot on looking at markets with strong demand and landlord-friendly regulations, especially for building a portfolio designed for long-term cash flow.

      For team building from a distance, I've found it's worth investing the time up front to personally vet property managers and agents. A good PM is your eyes, ears, and sometimes your sanity when investing remotely. Lean on investor forums and local REIA groups in your target markets to get referrals (and honest feedback) before hiring.

      As for mistakes to avoid: don’t underestimate the importance of property management quality, and always budget extra for repairs, vacancies, and travel to your market. The “cheap” deal can quickly become expensive without solid systems in place.

      In my Co-Investing Club, we often pool resources and connections to get better access to vetted operators, markets, and deals - which can be a great way to accelerate your learning curve while reducing risk.

      You’re in the right place to find that network and turn your plan into a reality.


       Hi Denise,

      Thank you for the warm welcome and the helpful advice.  I really appreciate the tips on building a strong team (which scares me - I have trust issues lol) and budgeting for the extra costs.  Definitely tings I will ensure I keep in mind as I move forward.

      Thank you

      Christopher

  • Drew SygitBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 12k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    1y

    @Christopher Rubio

    Recommend you first figure out the property Class you want to invest in, THEN figure out the corresponding location/neighborhoods to invest in.

    Why is Property Class so important for investors to understand and apply in their investing strategies?

    Because the Property Class dictates the Class of the tenant pool that the property will attract.

    The Tenant Class greatly impacts rental income stability and property maintenance/damage by tenants.

    Both Property Class and Tenant Class affect what type of contractors, handymen and property management companies will work on a property.

    If you buy & renovate a property in Class D area to Class A standards, what Tenant Class will rent it?

    Or, if you put several Class D tenants in a Class A four-plex, what do you think will happen to the property?

    So, if you fail to apply the correct assumptions to a property, your expectations won’t be met and it may even be a financial disaster.

    We use the following to rank Property Classes, in order of importance:

    • Property Tenant Pool: closely linked to location, but not always.
    • Property Location: closely linked to tenant pool, but not always.
    • Property Condition & Amenities: it’s important to, “Maintain to the Neighborhood.”

    Key metrics for each Property Class:

    Class A Properties:
    Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores 680+, no convictions/evictions in last 7 years.
    Tenant Default: 0-5% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
    Section 8: Class A rents are too high and won’t be approved.
    Vacancies: 5-10%, depending on market conditions.
    Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 3-5 years for positive cashflow, but you get highest relative rent & value appreciation.

    Class B Properties:
    Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores 620-680, some blemishes, no convictions/evictions in last 5 years.
    Tenant Default
    : 5-10% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
    Vacancies
    : 10-15%, depending on market conditions.
    Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 1-3 years for positive cashflow, balanced amounts of relative rent & value appreciation.
    Section 8: Class B rents are usually too high for the Section 8 program.

    Class C Properties:
    Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores 560-620, many blemishes, but should have no convictions/evictions in last 3 years. Verifying recent 2-years of rental history very important! Same for 2-years of job/income stability.
    Tenant Default: 10-20% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
    Section 8: Class C rents usually meet program requirements, proper screening still recommended.
    Vacancies: 10-20%, depending on market conditions and tenant screening.
    Cashflow vs Appreciation: Should cashflow immediately, at the lower end of relative rent & value appreciation.

    Class D Properties:
    Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores under 560, little to no good tradelines, lots of collections & chargeoffs, but should have no convictions/evictions in last 12 months. Verifying last 2-years of rental history and income/employment extremely important to find the “best of the worst”.
    Tenant Default: 20-30% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
    Section 8: Class D rents meet program requirements, often challenges to pass Section 8 inspection.
    Vacancies: 20%+, depending on market conditions and tenant screening.
    Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, all cashflow with little, maybe even negative, relative rent & value appreciation.

    Where did we get our FICO credit score information from?

    Check out this chart:

    FICO Score

    Pct of Population

    Default Probability

    800 or more

    13.00%

    1.00%

    750-799

    27.00%

    1.00%

    700-749

    18.00%

    4.40%

    650-699

    15.00%

    8.90%

    600-649

    12.00%

    15.80%

    550-599

    8.00%

    22.50%

    500-549

    5.00%

    28.40%

    Less than 499

    2.00%

    41.00%

    Source: Fair Isaac Company

    Make sure you understand the Class of properties you are looking at and the corresponding results to expect.

    Metro Detroit has 132 cities, the City of Detroit 183 Neighborhoods, which we’re analyzing and classifying. Check out the map on our website where we’ve made this all easy to follow.

    We can also share numerous examples of properties & portfolios we’ve assisted investors with!

    DM us if you’d like to discuss this logical approach in greater detail!

    • Christopher RubioPro Member
      OP
      Investor · Member since 2024 · 163 posts · 130 votes
      1y
      Quote from @Drew Sygit:

      @Christopher Rubio

      Recommend you first figure out the property Class you want to invest in, THEN figure out the corresponding location/neighborhoods to invest in.

      Why is Property Class so important for investors to understand and apply in their investing strategies?

      Because the Property Class dictates the Class of the tenant pool that the property will attract.

      The Tenant Class greatly impacts rental income stability and property maintenance/damage by tenants.

      Both Property Class and Tenant Class affect what type of contractors, handymen and property management companies will work on a property.

      If you buy & renovate a property in Class D area to Class A standards, what Tenant Class will rent it?

      Or, if you put several Class D tenants in a Class A four-plex, what do you think will happen to the property?

      So, if you fail to apply the correct assumptions to a property, your expectations won’t be met and it may even be a financial disaster.

      We use the following to rank Property Classes, in order of importance:

      • Property Tenant Pool: closely linked to location, but not always.
      • Property Location: closely linked to tenant pool, but not always.
      • Property Condition & Amenities: it’s important to, “Maintain to the Neighborhood.”

      Key metrics for each Property Class:

      Class A Properties:
      Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores 680+, no convictions/evictions in last 7 years.
      Tenant Default: 0-5% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
      Section 8: Class A rents are too high and won’t be approved.
      Vacancies: 5-10%, depending on market conditions.
      Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 3-5 years for positive cashflow, but you get highest relative rent & value appreciation.

      Class B Properties:
      Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores 620-680, some blemishes, no convictions/evictions in last 5 years.
      Tenant Default
      : 5-10% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
      Vacancies
      : 10-15%, depending on market conditions.
      Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 1-3 years for positive cashflow, balanced amounts of relative rent & value appreciation.
      Section 8: Class B rents are usually too high for the Section 8 program.

      Class C Properties:
      Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores 560-620, many blemishes, but should have no convictions/evictions in last 3 years. Verifying recent 2-years of rental history very important! Same for 2-years of job/income stability.
      Tenant Default: 10-20% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
      Section 8: Class C rents usually meet program requirements, proper screening still recommended.
      Vacancies: 10-20%, depending on market conditions and tenant screening.
      Cashflow vs Appreciation: Should cashflow immediately, at the lower end of relative rent & value appreciation.

      Class D Properties:
      Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores under 560, little to no good tradelines, lots of collections & chargeoffs, but should have no convictions/evictions in last 12 months. Verifying last 2-years of rental history and income/employment extremely important to find the “best of the worst”.
      Tenant Default: 20-30% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
      Section 8: Class D rents meet program requirements, often challenges to pass Section 8 inspection.
      Vacancies: 20%+, depending on market conditions and tenant screening.
      Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, all cashflow with little, maybe even negative, relative rent & value appreciation.

      Where did we get our FICO credit score information from?

      Check out this chart:

      FICO Score

      Pct of Population

      Default Probability

      800 or more

      13.00%

      1.00%

      750-799

      27.00%

      1.00%

      700-749

      18.00%

      4.40%

      650-699

      15.00%

      8.90%

      600-649

      12.00%

      15.80%

      550-599

      8.00%

      22.50%

      500-549

      5.00%

      28.40%

      Less than 499

      2.00%

      41.00%

      Source: Fair Isaac Company

      Make sure you understand the Class of properties you are looking at and the corresponding results to expect.

      Metro Detroit has 132 cities, the City of Detroit 183 Neighborhoods, which we’re analyzing and classifying. Check out the map on our website where we’ve made this all easy to follow.

      We can also share numerous examples of properties & portfolios we’ve assisted investors with!

      DM us if you’d like to discuss this logical approach in greater detail!

       @Drew Sygit Hi

      Thanks for such a detailed explanation — this really helps put into perspective why defining the property class first is so important. I can see how starting with the wrong class could throw off expectations for tenant quality, cash flow, and even the type of property management support you can realistically get.

      I’m still figuring out my exact buy box, but I know I want something that balances cash flow with appreciation potential — and I’m open to small multi-family properties if the numbers work. My biggest challenge right now is just narrowing down the right property class and finding trustworthy boots-on-the-ground out of state to match it.

      I’ll take a closer look at the breakdown you shared and may reach out to discuss specific examples you’ve worked on.

      Thanks again for sharing this — very helpful!

      Christopher

    • Drew SygitBusiness Member
      Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 12k+ posts · 9k+ votes
      1y
      Quote from @Christopher Rubio:
      Quote from @Drew Sygit:

      @Christopher Rubio

      Recommend you first figure out the property Class you want to invest in, THEN figure out the corresponding location/neighborhoods to invest in.

      Why is Property Class so important for investors to understand and apply in their investing strategies?

      Because the Property Class dictates the Class of the tenant pool that the property will attract.

      The Tenant Class greatly impacts rental income stability and property maintenance/damage by tenants.

      Both Property Class and Tenant Class affect what type of contractors, handymen and property management companies will work on a property.

      If you buy & renovate a property in Class D area to Class A standards, what Tenant Class will rent it?

      Or, if you put several Class D tenants in a Class A four-plex, what do you think will happen to the property?

      So, if you fail to apply the correct assumptions to a property, your expectations won’t be met and it may even be a financial disaster.

      We use the following to rank Property Classes, in order of importance:

      • Property Tenant Pool: closely linked to location, but not always.
      • Property Location: closely linked to tenant pool, but not always.
      • Property Condition & Amenities: it’s important to, “Maintain to the Neighborhood.”

      Key metrics for each Property Class:

      Class A Properties:
      Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores 680+, no convictions/evictions in last 7 years.
      Tenant Default: 0-5% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
      Section 8: Class A rents are too high and won’t be approved.
      Vacancies: 5-10%, depending on market conditions.
      Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 3-5 years for positive cashflow, but you get highest relative rent & value appreciation.

      Class B Properties:
      Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores 620-680, some blemishes, no convictions/evictions in last 5 years.
      Tenant Default
      : 5-10% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
      Vacancies
      : 10-15%, depending on market conditions.
      Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 1-3 years for positive cashflow, balanced amounts of relative rent & value appreciation.
      Section 8: Class B rents are usually too high for the Section 8 program.

      Class C Properties:
      Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores 560-620, many blemishes, but should have no convictions/evictions in last 3 years. Verifying recent 2-years of rental history very important! Same for 2-years of job/income stability.
      Tenant Default: 10-20% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
      Section 8: Class C rents usually meet program requirements, proper screening still recommended.
      Vacancies: 10-20%, depending on market conditions and tenant screening.
      Cashflow vs Appreciation: Should cashflow immediately, at the lower end of relative rent & value appreciation.

      Class D Properties:
      Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores under 560, little to no good tradelines, lots of collections & chargeoffs, but should have no convictions/evictions in last 12 months. Verifying last 2-years of rental history and income/employment extremely important to find the “best of the worst”.
      Tenant Default: 20-30% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
      Section 8: Class D rents meet program requirements, often challenges to pass Section 8 inspection.
      Vacancies: 20%+, depending on market conditions and tenant screening.
      Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, all cashflow with little, maybe even negative, relative rent & value appreciation.

      Where did we get our FICO credit score information from?

      Check out this chart:

      FICO Score

      Pct of Population

      Default Probability

      800 or more

      13.00%

      1.00%

      750-799

      27.00%

      1.00%

      700-749

      18.00%

      4.40%

      650-699

      15.00%

      8.90%

      600-649

      12.00%

      15.80%

      550-599

      8.00%

      22.50%

      500-549

      5.00%

      28.40%

      Less than 499

      2.00%

      41.00%

      Source: Fair Isaac Company

      Make sure you understand the Class of properties you are looking at and the corresponding results to expect.

      Metro Detroit has 132 cities, the City of Detroit 183 Neighborhoods, which we’re analyzing and classifying. Check out the map on our website where we’ve made this all easy to follow.

      We can also share numerous examples of properties & portfolios we’ve assisted investors with!

      DM us if you’d like to discuss this logical approach in greater detail!

       @Drew Sygit Hi

      Thanks for such a detailed explanation — this really helps put into perspective why defining the property class first is so important. I can see how starting with the wrong class could throw off expectations for tenant quality, cash flow, and even the type of property management support you can realistically get.

      I’m still figuring out my exact buy box, but I know I want something that balances cash flow with appreciation potential — and I’m open to small multi-family properties if the numbers work. My biggest challenge right now is just narrowing down the right property class and finding trustworthy boots-on-the-ground out of state to match it.

      I’ll take a closer look at the breakdown you shared and may reach out to discuss specific examples you’ve worked on.

      Thanks again for sharing this — very helpful!

      Christopher


       DM us to schedule a chat to assist you!

  • Nicholas L.Pro Member
    Flipper/Rehabber · Pittsburgh · Member since 2018 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    1y

    @Christopher Rubio

    it would be a combination of 1. building a team of people you've met in person and 2. looking at several dozen properties in person before buying anything and 3. buying at or above the median home price for that market.

    and if you do that, you'll be better off long term.  but there won't be ANY cash flow.  Zip, none, nada.  you'll be putting cash IN for several years.  that is where the market is right now. 

  • Real Estate Coach · Nationwide · Member since 2014 · 12 posts · 12 votes
    1y

    Dont forget Kansas City Missouri.  Ive been working with out of state and out of country investors providing turn key investments here in KC for 40 years.

    We can easily check off your buy box requirements.

    • Christopher RubioPro Member
      OP
      Investor · Member since 2024 · 163 posts · 130 votes
      1y
      Quote from @Larry Myer:

      Dont forget Kansas City Missouri.  Ive been working with out of state and out of country investors providing turn key investments here in KC for 40 years.

      We can easily check off your buy box requirements.

      @Larry Myer 

      Thanks for the tip — Kansas City, MO wasn’t at the top of my list yet, but I’ve heard good things about its rental market. If you’ve been helping out-of-state investors there for 40 years, that’s a ton of local insight and experience I’d like to learn from.

      I’m still narrowing down markets and figuring out my exact buy box, but I’m definitely open to seeing how KC might fit, especially if it can meet my cash flow and long-term growth goals. I’ll reach out so we can connect.  I would love to know more.

      Christopher

  • Mackaylee BeachPro Member
    Real Estate Agent · Kansas City, MO · Member since 2020 · 1k+ posts · 492 votes
    1y

    With over 10 years of experience collaborating with investors and helping them find properties that align with their financial goals, I would love to connect and discuss the Kansas City market.

    • Christopher RubioPro Member
      OP
      Investor · Member since 2024 · 163 posts · 130 votes
      1y
      Quote from @Mackaylee Beach:

      With over 10 years of experience collaborating with investors and helping them find properties that align with their financial goals, I would love to connect and discuss the Kansas City market.

       @Mackaylee Beach Would love to know more!

  • Realtor · McAllen, TX · Member since 2025 · 141 posts · 58 votes
    1y

    Hello Chistopher

    Welcome to the BiggerPockets Community. When investing out of state, it is good to make friends with agents, property managers, contractors, and other investors in the area you want to invest in. 

    • Christopher RubioPro Member
      OP
      Investor · Member since 2024 · 163 posts · 130 votes
      1y
      Quote from @Ezekiel Trevino:

      Hello Chistopher

      Welcome to the BiggerPockets Community. When investing out of state, it is good to make friends with agents, property managers, contractors, and other investors in the area you want to invest in. 

       @Ezekiel Trevino That's one of my biggest concerns, finding a trustworthy team!  Thanks for the insight.

      Christopher

  • Rental Property Investor · Elk Grove, CA · Member since 2024 · 23 posts · 6 votes
    1y

    I recommend finding the agent first and make sure you have a lender to get a preapproval letter ready, so when you come across a good deal you are ready to strike on it. The agent also has people they generally recommend for you to use. Some agents help manage the rehab as well. 

    Someone else also mentioned it, but figure out your buy box in the area (what property class... etc). There are some markets that fit your criteria, but they would be in C class locations. 

    When investing in these areas make sure your property manager is solid. Vet them thoroughly and ask about their processes and their experience managing in the area. Since you are out of state, the property managers can give insight to the deal you are looking at as well. Make sure you talk to several property managers. 

    Make sure you also do a proper inspection since this is your first. I'd recommend doing the sewer line inspection as well if the house is over 80 years old. Also would highly recommend learning a little bit about construction and what specs are generally used in rentals and when something needs to be replaced, so when you look at photos / video you have a general idea of what needs to be done. (many people overlook this). It will take a lot of the stress off if you know what you are getting yourself into --> cutting out the uncertainty.

    Feel free to reach out if you have any other questions or want to chat. 




    • Christopher RubioPro Member
      OP
      Investor · Member since 2024 · 163 posts · 130 votes
      1y
      Quote from @Jason Ha:

      I recommend finding the agent first and make sure you have a lender to get a preapproval letter ready, so when you come across a good deal you are ready to strike on it. The agent also has people they generally recommend for you to use. Some agents help manage the rehab as well. 

      Someone else also mentioned it, but figure out your buy box in the area (what property class... etc). There are some markets that fit your criteria, but they would be in C class locations. 

      When investing in these areas make sure your property manager is solid. Vet them thoroughly and ask about their processes and their experience managing in the area. Since you are out of state, the property managers can give insight to the deal you are looking at as well. Make sure you talk to several property managers. 

      Make sure you also do a proper inspection since this is your first. I'd recommend doing the sewer line inspection as well if the house is over 80 years old. Also would highly recommend learning a little bit about construction and what specs are generally used in rentals and when something needs to be replaced, so when you look at photos / video you have a general idea of what needs to be done. (many people overlook this). It will take a lot of the stress off if you know what you are getting yourself into --> cutting out the uncertainty.

      Feel free to reach out if you have any other questions or want to chat. 




       @Jason Ha wow thank you for this insight.  I will definitely keep all of this in mind throughout my journey.  

  • Min ZhangBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Member since 2022 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    1y

    Hey Chris, welcome to BP! 

    For me, the game changer was locking in a reliable core group: agent, PM, contractor, and lender before chasing deals. That way, when the right property pops up, you’re not scrambling to assemble the pieces. I’ve also found that a lot of pitfalls (contractor delays, overpaying, bad tenants) can be avoided by leaning on local relationships and doing a bit more due diligence upfront.

    Just curious, are you leaning more toward turnkey for your first one to get a feel for things, or are you open to light value-add if the numbers work? Happy to keep the conversation going!

    • Christopher RubioPro Member
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      Investor · Member since 2024 · 163 posts · 130 votes
      1y
      Quote from @Min Zhang:

      Hey Chris, welcome to BP! 

      For me, the game changer was locking in a reliable core group: agent, PM, contractor, and lender before chasing deals. That way, when the right property pops up, you’re not scrambling to assemble the pieces. I’ve also found that a lot of pitfalls (contractor delays, overpaying, bad tenants) can be avoided by leaning on local relationships and doing a bit more due diligence upfront.

      Just curious, are you leaning more toward turnkey for your first one to get a feel for things, or are you open to light value-add if the numbers work? Happy to keep the conversation going!

       @Min Zhang that's my biggest hesitation, finding a trustworthy team.  I do understand the thought process of having everyone there and ready.  How do you know you got the right individuals?  Thanks

      Christopher

  • Rental Property Investor · Member since 2024 · 28 posts · 36 votes
    1y

    I personally have invested in Rochester NY, which has its advantages and disadvantages... My property manager there has been amazing...

    Feel free to DM for details or contact info

    • Christopher RubioPro Member
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      Investor · Member since 2024 · 163 posts · 130 votes
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      Quote from @Mendy M.:

      I personally have invested in Rochester NY, which has its advantages and disadvantages... My property manager there has been amazing...

      Feel free to DM for details or contact info

       @Mendy M. Are they landlord friendly?

    • Rental Property Investor · Member since 2024 · 28 posts · 36 votes
      1y
      Quote from @Christopher Rubio:
      Quote from @Mendy M.:

      I personally have invested in Rochester NY, which has its advantages and disadvantages... My property manager there has been amazing...

      Feel free to DM for details or contact info

       @Mendy M. Are they landlord friendly?

      They are not especially... But there are advantages and disadvantages...

      They are not as bad as NYC though
  • Ashley GoodrichPro Member
    Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2022 · 3 posts · 3 votes
    1y

    Good morning! As someone who has 2 properties out of state, I'm going to double down and echo what others have said. You have to start with a solid foundation and team. That is the only way that it will work because they handle a lot of the heavy lifting for you. Your price point may cause you to run into inventory issues but if you plan to renovate / flip then you should be able to find something. 

    • Christopher RubioPro Member
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      Investor · Member since 2024 · 163 posts · 130 votes
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      Quote from @Ashley Goodrich:

      Good morning! As someone who has 2 properties out of state, I'm going to double down and echo what others have said. You have to start with a solid foundation and team. That is the only way that it will work because they handle a lot of the heavy lifting for you. Your price point may cause you to run into inventory issues but if you plan to renovate / flip then you should be able to find something. 

      @Ashley Goodrich How did you finally know you had the right team?  that's my biggest hesitation, finding trustworthy personnel

    • Christopher RubioPro Member
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      Investor · Member since 2024 · 163 posts · 130 votes
      1y
      Quote from @Ashley Goodrich:

      Good morning! As someone who has 2 properties out of state, I'm going to double down and echo what others have said. You have to start with a solid foundation and team. That is the only way that it will work because they handle a lot of the heavy lifting for you. Your price point may cause you to run into inventory issues but if you plan to renovate / flip then you should be able to find something. 

      @Ashley Goodrich definitely sounds like the next path... which is my biggest concern and a bit confused/hesitant on how and where to start.  Finding a trustworthy team out of state seems so difficult to accomplish but obviously doable.  I guess I got some work to do!  thanks for the input, appreciate it.

  • Member since 2025 · 6 posts · 8 votes
    1y

    Hi, I am in similar situation, so I am following your post. PS - thanks for your service to our country!

    • Christopher RubioPro Member
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      Quote from @Barbara Peluso:

      Hi, I am in similar situation, so I am following your post. PS - thanks for your service to our country!

       @Barbara Peluso Thanks for the kind words — I really appreciate that. Glad to know I’m not the only one navigating this out-of-state investing path. It’s definitely reassuring to connect with others in a similar situation and learn together. Looking forward to seeing what insights you pick up as well!

  • Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 31k+ posts · 20k+ votes
    1y
    Quote from @Christopher Rubio:

    Hello Everyone,

    I am new to BiggerPockets and excited to connect with like-minded investors.  I am based in California but looking to invest in out-of-state rental properties to take advantage of better cash flow and more favorable price-to-rent ratios.

    Right now, I am particularly interested in :

    Markets with strong demand

    Properties under 80k-125K (single family or small multi-family)

    Areas with steady job growth and landlord-friendly regulations

    My background 

    • I am a military veteran.  I have also been in the federal sector for nearly 15 years and am now wanting to build a portfolio for long-term (supplemental) income and early retirement.

    • I have research in various area such as Memphis, Cleveland, St. Louis and open to other suggestions

    What I am hoping to learn from this group:

    • How you have approached team building from a distance (agents, property managers, contractors, etc.)

    • Mistakes to avoid as a new out of state investor

    • Recommend neighborhoods or cities you have had success with

    Overall, I am here to learn, share my journey and build relationships that lead to win-win deals.  I hope one day I will be on the other end of a similar post like this providing new investors my knowledge and insight in real estate investing.  Looking forward to connecting with you all!!

    Chris R


     Chris give The Ultimate Guide to Grading Cleveland Neighborhoods a read. It should help you out as you try to learn a new market that is very different to the one you're living in.

    • Christopher RubioPro Member
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      Quote from @James Wise:
      Quote from @Christopher Rubio:

      Hello Everyone,

      I am new to BiggerPockets and excited to connect with like-minded investors.  I am based in California but looking to invest in out-of-state rental properties to take advantage of better cash flow and more favorable price-to-rent ratios.

      Right now, I am particularly interested in :

      Markets with strong demand

      Properties under 80k-125K (single family or small multi-family)

      Areas with steady job growth and landlord-friendly regulations

      My background 

      • I am a military veteran.  I have also been in the federal sector for nearly 15 years and am now wanting to build a portfolio for long-term (supplemental) income and early retirement.

      • I have research in various area such as Memphis, Cleveland, St. Louis and open to other suggestions

      What I am hoping to learn from this group:

      • How you have approached team building from a distance (agents, property managers, contractors, etc.)

      • Mistakes to avoid as a new out of state investor

      • Recommend neighborhoods or cities you have had success with

      Overall, I am here to learn, share my journey and build relationships that lead to win-win deals.  I hope one day I will be on the other end of a similar post like this providing new investors my knowledge and insight in real estate investing.  Looking forward to connecting with you all!!

      Chris R


       Chris give The Ultimate Guide to Grading Cleveland Neighborhoods a read. It should help you out as you try to learn a new market that is very different to the one you're living in.

      @James Wise 

      Thanks for sharing that resource — I’ll definitely give The Ultimate Guide to Grading Cleveland Neighborhoods a read. I know Cleveland is very different from California, so having a structured way to evaluate neighborhoods will be really helpful as I try to learn the market.

      Appreciate you pointing me in the right direction!

    • Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 31k+ posts · 20k+ votes
      1y
      Quote from @Christopher Rubio:
      Quote from @James Wise:
      Quote from @Christopher Rubio:

      Hello Everyone,

      I am new to BiggerPockets and excited to connect with like-minded investors.  I am based in California but looking to invest in out-of-state rental properties to take advantage of better cash flow and more favorable price-to-rent ratios.

      Right now, I am particularly interested in :

      Markets with strong demand

      Properties under 80k-125K (single family or small multi-family)

      Areas with steady job growth and landlord-friendly regulations

      My background 

      • I am a military veteran.  I have also been in the federal sector for nearly 15 years and am now wanting to build a portfolio for long-term (supplemental) income and early retirement.

      • I have research in various area such as Memphis, Cleveland, St. Louis and open to other suggestions

      What I am hoping to learn from this group:

      • How you have approached team building from a distance (agents, property managers, contractors, etc.)

      • Mistakes to avoid as a new out of state investor

      • Recommend neighborhoods or cities you have had success with

      Overall, I am here to learn, share my journey and build relationships that lead to win-win deals.  I hope one day I will be on the other end of a similar post like this providing new investors my knowledge and insight in real estate investing.  Looking forward to connecting with you all!!

      Chris R


       Chris give The Ultimate Guide to Grading Cleveland Neighborhoods a read. It should help you out as you try to learn a new market that is very different to the one you're living in.

      @James Wise 

      Thanks for sharing that resource — I’ll definitely give The Ultimate Guide to Grading Cleveland Neighborhoods a read. I know Cleveland is very different from California, so having a structured way to evaluate neighborhoods will be really helpful as I try to learn the market.

      Appreciate you pointing me in the right direction!


       Party Hard.

  • Kerlous TadresBusiness Member
    Realtor · Columbus, OH · Member since 2023 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    1y

    Hey Chris, from my experience working with out-of-state investors, the biggest game-changer is having a solid local team of agents, property managers, and contractors you can really rely on. Staying in the loop and setting expectations up front makes everything smoother. The mistakes I see most often are underestimating repairs, not researching the market before buying, not digging into neighborhoods, and assuming others will handle everything without checks. Keep your focus on cash flow, value-add potential, and always expect the unexpected. With the right people on the ground, managing remotely becomes way more manageable.

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    • Christopher RubioPro Member
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      Quote from @Kerlous Tadres:

      Hey Chris, from my experience working with out-of-state investors, the biggest game-changer is having a solid local team of agents, property managers, and contractors you can really rely on. Staying in the loop and setting expectations up front makes everything smoother. The mistakes I see most often are underestimating repairs, not researching the market before buying, not digging into neighborhoods, and assuming others will handle everything without checks. Keep your focus on cash flow, value-add potential, and always expect the unexpected. With the right people on the ground, managing remotely becomes way more manageable.

       @Kerlous Tadres 

      Thank you for sharing this — it really helps to hear the common mistakes and the things to focus on. My biggest hesitation right now is exactly what you touched on: figuring out how to build a trustworthy team of agents, PMs, and contractors in a market I don’t know personally. Being out of state, that part makes me nervous because I know the wrong people could turn a good deal into a headache quickly.

      I’m trying to be intentional about doing my research and making sure expectations are clear from the start, but the challenge is making sure the people I bring on are reliable and actually have my best interests in mind.

      Your advice about focusing on cash flow, value-add, and always preparing for the unexpected is spot on. I’m keeping that front and center as I plan my first deal.

  • Property Manager · Clarksville, TN · Member since 2025 · 14 posts · 5 votes
    1y

    Hey, Christopher! 

    I work with Rent My Home based in Clarksville, TN. It is a market with strong demand driven by the military base, Ft. Campbell. You're unlikely to find a deal in that price range here, but it is a great, family-friendly place to live with strong growth prospects. 


    Since you won't be local, I'd advise you to work with a property management company that has a strong local presence. If you're going to work with a larger, national company, I'd advise you to inquire about the agent themselves. How long have they been in the area? What types of relationships do they have established with contractors? Local expertise should lead to better service with vendors and more accurate rental analyses. 

    Hope that helps! Feel free to reach out if you want to discuss screening property managers further, or if you'd consider Clarksville as an investment spot. 

  • Christopher RubioPro Member
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    Investor · Member since 2024 · 163 posts · 130 votes
    1y

    @Jeb Williams Thank you for the detailed response — that’s really helpful. Clarksville wasn’t on my radar yet, but it’s good to hear about the strong demand tied to Ft. Campbell and the overall growth in the area. Even if it’s outside my current price range, I’ll keep it in mind for future opportunities.

    You hit on one of my biggest concerns as an out-of-state investor — making sure I have a trustworthy property manager with strong local ties. I definitely see how local experience and vendor relationships can make a big difference compared to just going with a big-name national company.

    I may reach out to learn more about your perspective on screening PMs and how to spot the right fit. Appreciate you sharing this insight!

    • Property Manager · Clarksville, TN · Member since 2025 · 14 posts · 5 votes
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      Quote from @Christopher Rubio:

      @Jeb Williams Thank you for the detailed response — that’s really helpful. Clarksville wasn’t on my radar yet, but it’s good to hear about the strong demand tied to Ft. Campbell and the overall growth in the area. Even if it’s outside my current price range, I’ll keep it in mind for future opportunities.

      You hit on one of my biggest concerns as an out-of-state investor — making sure I have a trustworthy property manager with strong local ties. I definitely see how local experience and vendor relationships can make a big difference compared to just going with a big-name national company.

      I may reach out to learn more about your perspective on screening PMs and how to spot the right fit. Appreciate you sharing this insight!


       Sure thing! I'm happy to share any advice and/or tips that I've learned from my experience. Best of luck on your investment!

  • New to Real Estate · Member since 2019 · 48 posts · 43 votes
    1y

    Any new insight as to what you're planning on doing? In the same boat as you.

  • Nick RosenbergBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · 47201 · Member since 2021 · 6 posts · 4 votes
    1y

    Hey Christopher, 

    Welcome to BiggerPockets! I'm a realtor and property manager based out of Columbus, Indiana and I'd be happy to connect on investment strategies here. I currently work with several out-of-state investors based all around the U.S. to find and manage both single family and multi-family properties. Columbus, IN is home to several large company headquarters like Cummins which creates a steady demand for rentals as they bring employees to town for 1-3 year contracts. 

    Nick

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