Looking to get into section, live in Canada.

[Storm Bucknor]

I live in Toronto Ontario in Canada and I'm looking to get my first section 8 property, I do need some guidance to help mitigate mistakes in the process. Any suggestions on who to reach out to or where to go for help?

[Michael Smythe]

@Storm Bucknor

We manage almost 100 S8 leases in the Metro Detroit market.

While S8 may address tenant nonpayment issues, there are other challenges with tenant-portion of rent payments, tenant damages, dealing with S8 Annual Inspections and dealing with the nonresponsive caseworkers (underpaid & overworked).

It also does NOT pay more than market rent.
Ask yourself, why would the federal government pay MORE than market rent and waste our tax dollars?
The reality is that the Gross S8 Rent amount on an S8 voucher includes all utilities. Remove those and the Net S8 Rent will be market rent.

Typically, the only way to get more than market rent is by buying in Class D areas and hoping a S8 tenant will live there instead of a Class C area.

Keep in Mind: TENANTS QUALIFY FOR SECTION 8 FOR A REASON!
Most S8 tenants have a history of bad decisions, often having convictions, evictions, bankruptcies, chargeoffs, collections, garnishments, etc.

We embrace S8 applicants, but screen them just like any other applicant.

Many have an entitlement mentality and try to leverage their S8 voucher by pretending to be helpless:

1) A percentage won't apply because they expect a landlord to waive application fees for them.

2) Many cry broke and expect a landlord NOT to charge them a security deposit.

3) Many of those same S8 tenants trying to avoid paying a security deposit, won't make an effort to call the list of nonprofits we send them that will pay their security deposit if they apply.

4) A lot of them try to avoid paying for utilities. S8 will include utilities in the rent payments to the landlord, BUT ONLY UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT. Many tenants abuse free utilities and stick their landlords with the amounts that exceed what S8 pays. Don't even get us going about S8 tenant retaliation via abuse of utilities!

5) Those that have to pay a portion of their rent - some don't. Again, they try to leverage the majority the landlord is getting, so they don't have to pay their portion.

6) We get the most maintenance requests from S8 tenants. Many won't lift a finger to do anything. They expect us to replace lightbulbs, won't change furnace filters and we also have lawn maintenance issues with them. Forget trying to walk them through a simple repair over the phone, to avoid sending a ServiceTech and saving an owner money. They always pretend to be confused and just want us to send someone.

7) Some will cause damages that S8 won't require to be fixed, but will threaten to move if you don't fix it. One demanded we paint the interior the color they wanted or they wouldn't renew their lease.

8) MoveOut damages typically exceed their security deposit.

These are the horror stories.

We also have S8 tenants that keep their homes immaculate!

So, proper screening is EXTREMELY important!

DM us to set up a call to discuss further😊