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Post: Challenging all deniers..Detroit Economy & Market are ON FIRE!!!
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Originally posted by @Dave Malone:
@Isaura Orellana
NICE, response! He can stay out of the market but please let me in. I’ve been “looking” up there (from Nashville) but haven’t done anything yet, but this post may mean a trip to Detroit.
Now is the time to get a piece of the pie.
Post: Challenging all deniers..Detroit Economy & Market are ON FIRE!!!
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Originally posted by @Calvin Thomas:
Originally posted by @Alex K.:
Originally posted by @Calvin Thomas:
Originally posted by @Alex K.:
Originally posted by @Calvin Thomas:
Originally posted by @Isaura Orellana:@Calvin T.Tell that to all the average investors who have experienced Herculean returns in Detroit over the past few years. Better yet tell that to Dan Gilbert get back to me @Calvin.
Originally posted by @Alex K.:
Originally posted by @Calvin Thomas:
Not the greatest chart in terms of population. It's basically back to the same population 100 years ago. I wish you the best of luck.
http://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities/detroit-population/
Different numbers everywhere I look.
I wonder where these guys pull this data.
Have no idea who Dan Gilbert is. We're in NY/NJ/CT/PA/IL/MA. We've looked at Detroit a few times, we see nothing put pain. It's in a downward population spiril until at least 2030 (according to the City of Detroit - Google it). That city needs BILLIONS of funding (or divine intervention) and federal/state grants before that place is even on the level of South Philly (and this place is B-A-D). I wish both of you well. Perhaps you guys are able to get it to work. We tend to stay out of war zones or pending war zones. But hey, if you guys can do it, you've carved yourself a really cool niche market.
You mentioned Gilbert for the record.
When I was in my teens we lived about 30 mins from Detroit so my buddies and I would go down to the “war zone” to hang out in the city.
Some of those buildings in certain areas were going for 20-50k at the time (2011-2012) Same buildings today are 4-500k+ and that’s not including the 300-400k rehab needed on them.
Although I was very young I was still trying to convince my parents to buy it for me in return they lectured me about going to Detroit and hanging out 😔
To each is own I guess and it’s been pretty good for me since I’ve started in my early 20’s. The only pain is the daily 30-45 min commute and dealing with some of the people at times.
I figure in 10-20 years I keep doing what I’m doing and I’ll be alright.
Speaking of NY what was it like 20-30 years ago? What Were people buying the “war zone” properties rehabbing and raising rent kind of thing ?
I have no idea who this Dan Gilbert is. For the record, nope you are incorrect, here's my 1st post:
Originally posted by @Calvin T.:
Not the greatest chart in terms of population. It's basically back to the same population 100 years ago. I wish you the best of luck.
http://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities/detroit-population/
If you think Detroit is anything like New York City metro or certain parts of Connecticut, Chicagoland, Boston, Jersey City, Hobken or North Philly, you're greatly mistaken. Kwame and his goons really killed that city even worse then it was. No disrepect to your city. None of these cities were ever as bad as Detroit is currently. Even New York City in the 70's wasn't as bad as Detroit nowadays. Completely different animals. Detroit destroyed itself when they didn't innovate past the big three auto makers. Your City and surrounding areas was too dependent on Ford, Chrysler and General Motors. Then when they and their suppliers (I.E. Delphi) either closed up shop or moved out of the area Detroit was up the river without a paddle. It's going to take decades for Detroit to come back. The real pain hasn't even started. If you made your money, congrats. Sell and move to greener pastures. I hear Columbus, OH is coming up.
Time will tell that the only thing mistaken is your opinion on Detroit today because you’re basing it off some 15+ years ago newspaper at the grocery store.
What happened to these other markets you mentioned is starting to happen here. We have all the necessary infrastructure, fresh water, access to international waters, and plenty of solid buildings for the population growth to come for many years.
So if I keep the ball rolling like I have been by the time I’m an old timer like you 40 years from now I think I’ll be alright. Thanks for your grocery store comments and input though
I hope you are right and I am wrong. I guess in time, we willl see. Though, I might not be here in 2030. I wish you much success.
Thanks. Yes That’s the plan. I read in some of your posts where you purchased buildings for 35 in NY back in your days and now your monthly rent from that building is greater than that.
I’d be blessed to say that one day especially if it’s from the Detroit market.
I bet you had multiple people telling you “NO don’t do it” when you were buying those buildings in NY and you also probably had many people saying “YES this is what we need to do”
Time tells all. I’m in my 20s (feels good saying that) trying to be on your level and greater when I’m Your age.
Post: Challenging all deniers..Detroit Economy & Market are ON FIRE!!!
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Originally posted by @John Kaspar:
So, who do i give $10k to and hope for the best?
If you can do 15 I got one with your name written all over it bud lol
Post: Full time wholesalers
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Originally posted by @Syed H.:
Originally posted by @Alex K.:
Originally posted by @Syed H.:
Originally posted by @Alex K.:
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Alex K.:
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Matt Hatton:
Who here is a full time wholesaler? If you could go back to the past and talk to the ‘you’ that was JUST starting out before having closed your first deal, what would you tell yourself knowing everything you know today? Your best tips, tricks, and advice. the must-do’s and the must-don’ts of wholesaling! All comments are welcomed!!
Well 1st thing I need to tell you all is that Wholesaling as it's taught is a myth. You need a license to Broker real estate. That's all wholesaling is, it's brokering real estate except instead of being up front & telling the distressed seller that you'll sell their property for X amount & take X amount as your commission / fee you are taught to lie to the seller & pretend you are going to buy the property while you secretly attempt to "assign" your contract.
It doesn't work. Nobody has any respect for wholesalers. Whenever a wholesaler contact me I simply get the information about the property & reach out to the owner myself cutting the wholesaler out of the deal entirely. If you do business above board as a licensed agent that won't happen to you. The only people making money wholesaling are the guys selling the education.
Now that we've got the above out of the way let me explain to you that brokering real estate or connecting buyers and sellers is a pretty lucrative job if you are really good at it. Things you would need to focus on to excel at it are as follows.
- An in depth knowledge of the market.
- Marketing skills.
- Sales skills.
- Negotiation skills.
- Accurately estimate rehab costs.
- Understand how to much time it would cost to run a renovation on the properties you are presenting.
In Michigan people are doing this all day. If it was illegal I don’t think reputable businesses such as title companies and attourneys wouldn’t be facilitating the transactions. I could be wrong but I’ve heard in Ohio it was affecting the traditional real estate business and all of the realtors joined an alliance and protested against the title companies from doing these transactions so the wholesaling in Ohio is dead since then.
Wouldn't it make more sense to research the law as opposed to making an assumption because you've seen other people do it? Below is information on Michigan specifically.
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/...
"(u) "Real estate broker" means an individual or business entity that, with intent to collect or receive a fee, compensation, or valuable consideration, sells or offers for sale, buys or offers to buy, provides or offers to provide market analyses of, lists or offers or attempts to list, or negotiates the purchase, sale, or exchange of real estate; that negotiates the mortgage of real estate; that negotiates for the construction of a building on real estate; that leases or offers or rents or offers for rent real estate or the improvements on the real estate for others, as a whole or partial vocation; that engages in property management as a whole or partial vocation; that sells or offers for sale, buys or offers to buy, leases or offers to lease, or negotiates the purchase or sale or exchange of a business, business opportunity, or the goodwill of an existing business for others; or that, as owner or otherwise, engages in the sale of real estate as a principal vocation. (v) "Real estate salesperson" means an individual who for compensation or valuable consideration is employed either directly or indirectly by a licensed real estate broker to sell or offer to sell, buy or offer to buy, provide or offer to provide market analyses of, list or offer or attempt to list, or negotiate the purchase, sale, or exchange of real estate; to negotiate the mortgage of real estate; to negotiate for the construction of a building on real estate, or to lease or offer to lease, or rent or offer for rent, real estate; who is employed by a real estate broker to engage in property management; or who sells or offers for sale, buys or offers to buy, leases or offers to lease, or negotiates the purchase or sale or exchange of a business, business opportunity, or the goodwill of an existing business for others, as a whole or partial vocation. (w) "Service provision agreement" means a buyer agency agreement or listing agreement that is executed by a real estate broker and a client and establishes an agency relationship. (x) "Sponsor" means a person that represents to the public that the courses it conducts for purposes of this article fulfill the requirements of section 2504a for continuing education."
Good thing you’re not in Michigan drilling the Title companies over here with your penal codes. According to this article everyone needs a license even if you’re selling a business or business oppertunity which in my opinion is a bunch of bologna.
LOL, your OPINION doesn't matter. It literally says you need a RE license to sell a business (which is the same in most states I've seen and done business in).
Why are you guys all making this so difficult? A brain dead monkey can go get his RE license. It's not difficult. It's a freaking formality. Just go get it done.
There is PLENTY of money to be made the legal and ethical way. I'd bet James & Jay have made more money in then everyone else combined in this thread.
My opinion matters to me and many people I do business with and also build and sell businesses to.
Getting a real estate license is something I’ve considered but really have no reason to.
Sounds like you got a thing for James and Jay.
Your opinion means nothing when it comes to what is legal or not.
I don't like taxes, but legally I still have to pay them.
Keep running an illegal brokerage. I'll keep making money with no worries of a state auditor at my door.
I don’t run any illegal brokerage ?
I sell stuff all the time. I do have a couple brokers I use if needed. Haters will hate. Best of luck to you and your business and your auditors.
Post: Full time wholesalers
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Originally posted by @Syed H.:
Originally posted by @Alex K.:
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Alex K.:
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Matt Hatton:
Who here is a full time wholesaler? If you could go back to the past and talk to the ‘you’ that was JUST starting out before having closed your first deal, what would you tell yourself knowing everything you know today? Your best tips, tricks, and advice. the must-do’s and the must-don’ts of wholesaling! All comments are welcomed!!
Well 1st thing I need to tell you all is that Wholesaling as it's taught is a myth. You need a license to Broker real estate. That's all wholesaling is, it's brokering real estate except instead of being up front & telling the distressed seller that you'll sell their property for X amount & take X amount as your commission / fee you are taught to lie to the seller & pretend you are going to buy the property while you secretly attempt to "assign" your contract.
It doesn't work. Nobody has any respect for wholesalers. Whenever a wholesaler contact me I simply get the information about the property & reach out to the owner myself cutting the wholesaler out of the deal entirely. If you do business above board as a licensed agent that won't happen to you. The only people making money wholesaling are the guys selling the education.
Now that we've got the above out of the way let me explain to you that brokering real estate or connecting buyers and sellers is a pretty lucrative job if you are really good at it. Things you would need to focus on to excel at it are as follows.
- An in depth knowledge of the market.
- Marketing skills.
- Sales skills.
- Negotiation skills.
- Accurately estimate rehab costs.
- Understand how to much time it would cost to run a renovation on the properties you are presenting.
In Michigan people are doing this all day. If it was illegal I don’t think reputable businesses such as title companies and attourneys wouldn’t be facilitating the transactions. I could be wrong but I’ve heard in Ohio it was affecting the traditional real estate business and all of the realtors joined an alliance and protested against the title companies from doing these transactions so the wholesaling in Ohio is dead since then.
Wouldn't it make more sense to research the law as opposed to making an assumption because you've seen other people do it? Below is information on Michigan specifically.
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/...
"(u) "Real estate broker" means an individual or business entity that, with intent to collect or receive a fee, compensation, or valuable consideration, sells or offers for sale, buys or offers to buy, provides or offers to provide market analyses of, lists or offers or attempts to list, or negotiates the purchase, sale, or exchange of real estate; that negotiates the mortgage of real estate; that negotiates for the construction of a building on real estate; that leases or offers or rents or offers for rent real estate or the improvements on the real estate for others, as a whole or partial vocation; that engages in property management as a whole or partial vocation; that sells or offers for sale, buys or offers to buy, leases or offers to lease, or negotiates the purchase or sale or exchange of a business, business opportunity, or the goodwill of an existing business for others; or that, as owner or otherwise, engages in the sale of real estate as a principal vocation. (v) "Real estate salesperson" means an individual who for compensation or valuable consideration is employed either directly or indirectly by a licensed real estate broker to sell or offer to sell, buy or offer to buy, provide or offer to provide market analyses of, list or offer or attempt to list, or negotiate the purchase, sale, or exchange of real estate; to negotiate the mortgage of real estate; to negotiate for the construction of a building on real estate, or to lease or offer to lease, or rent or offer for rent, real estate; who is employed by a real estate broker to engage in property management; or who sells or offers for sale, buys or offers to buy, leases or offers to lease, or negotiates the purchase or sale or exchange of a business, business opportunity, or the goodwill of an existing business for others, as a whole or partial vocation. (w) "Service provision agreement" means a buyer agency agreement or listing agreement that is executed by a real estate broker and a client and establishes an agency relationship. (x) "Sponsor" means a person that represents to the public that the courses it conducts for purposes of this article fulfill the requirements of section 2504a for continuing education."
Good thing you’re not in Michigan drilling the Title companies over here with your penal codes. According to this article everyone needs a license even if you’re selling a business or business oppertunity which in my opinion is a bunch of bologna.
LOL, your OPINION doesn't matter. It literally says you need a RE license to sell a business (which is the same in most states I've seen and done business in).
Why are you guys all making this so difficult? A brain dead monkey can go get his RE license. It's not difficult. It's a freaking formality. Just go get it done.
There is PLENTY of money to be made the legal and ethical way. I'd bet James & Jay have made more money in then everyone else combined in this thread.
My opinion matters to me and many people I do business with and also build and sell businesses to.
Getting a real estate license is something I’ve considered but really have no reason to.
Sounds like you got a thing for James and Jay.
Post: Detroit/ Michigan or Ohio for appreciating Cash-flowing Property?
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Detroit Is on the up and up there’s no doubt about it. Parts of Ohio have been popping up lately as well projecting good cap rates and prices etc.
I’m curious as to what your thoughts are on Which is better to invest in Detroit vs Ohio.
I’ve considered Ohio myself being so close to it but never went through with it because I couldn’t find any areas that were on the up and up the way Detroit is. ( just my opinion)
I want to know yours, Detroit Michigan or Ohio?
Post: Full time wholesalers
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Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Alex K.:
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Matt Hatton:
Who here is a full time wholesaler? If you could go back to the past and talk to the ‘you’ that was JUST starting out before having closed your first deal, what would you tell yourself knowing everything you know today? Your best tips, tricks, and advice. the must-do’s and the must-don’ts of wholesaling! All comments are welcomed!!
Well 1st thing I need to tell you all is that Wholesaling as it's taught is a myth. You need a license to Broker real estate. That's all wholesaling is, it's brokering real estate except instead of being up front & telling the distressed seller that you'll sell their property for X amount & take X amount as your commission / fee you are taught to lie to the seller & pretend you are going to buy the property while you secretly attempt to "assign" your contract.
It doesn't work. Nobody has any respect for wholesalers. Whenever a wholesaler contact me I simply get the information about the property & reach out to the owner myself cutting the wholesaler out of the deal entirely. If you do business above board as a licensed agent that won't happen to you. The only people making money wholesaling are the guys selling the education.
Now that we've got the above out of the way let me explain to you that brokering real estate or connecting buyers and sellers is a pretty lucrative job if you are really good at it. Things you would need to focus on to excel at it are as follows.
- An in depth knowledge of the market.
- Marketing skills.
- Sales skills.
- Negotiation skills.
- Accurately estimate rehab costs.
- Understand how to much time it would cost to run a renovation on the properties you are presenting.
In Michigan people are doing this all day. If it was illegal I don’t think reputable businesses such as title companies and attourneys wouldn’t be facilitating the transactions. I could be wrong but I’ve heard in Ohio it was affecting the traditional real estate business and all of the realtors joined an alliance and protested against the title companies from doing these transactions so the wholesaling in Ohio is dead since then.
Wouldn't it make more sense to research the law as opposed to making an assumption because you've seen other people do it? Below is information on Michigan specifically.
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/...
"(u) "Real estate broker" means an individual or business entity that, with intent to collect or receive a fee, compensation, or valuable consideration, sells or offers for sale, buys or offers to buy, provides or offers to provide market analyses of, lists or offers or attempts to list, or negotiates the purchase, sale, or exchange of real estate; that negotiates the mortgage of real estate; that negotiates for the construction of a building on real estate; that leases or offers or rents or offers for rent real estate or the improvements on the real estate for others, as a whole or partial vocation; that engages in property management as a whole or partial vocation; that sells or offers for sale, buys or offers to buy, leases or offers to lease, or negotiates the purchase or sale or exchange of a business, business opportunity, or the goodwill of an existing business for others; or that, as owner or otherwise, engages in the sale of real estate as a principal vocation. (v) "Real estate salesperson" means an individual who for compensation or valuable consideration is employed either directly or indirectly by a licensed real estate broker to sell or offer to sell, buy or offer to buy, provide or offer to provide market analyses of, list or offer or attempt to list, or negotiate the purchase, sale, or exchange of real estate; to negotiate the mortgage of real estate; to negotiate for the construction of a building on real estate, or to lease or offer to lease, or rent or offer for rent, real estate; who is employed by a real estate broker to engage in property management; or who sells or offers for sale, buys or offers to buy, leases or offers to lease, or negotiates the purchase or sale or exchange of a business, business opportunity, or the goodwill of an existing business for others, as a whole or partial vocation. (w) "Service provision agreement" means a buyer agency agreement or listing agreement that is executed by a real estate broker and a client and establishes an agency relationship. (x) "Sponsor" means a person that represents to the public that the courses it conducts for purposes of this article fulfill the requirements of section 2504a for continuing education."
Good thing you’re not in Michigan drilling the Title companies over here with your penal codes. According to this article everyone needs a license even if you’re selling a business or business oppertunity which in my opinion is a bunch of bologna.
Wholesaling is big business in Michigan and I don’t think it’s going anywhere anytime soon.
How’s the Ohio market been for you? I live only 40 mins from Ohio and have considered Toledo for a few rentals but I couldn’t seem to find that booming feeling over there that I do in Detroit. My commute to Toledo is the same as my commute to Detroit. I’m right in the middle. The Only upside I see is cheap car insurance and that’s about it.
Post: Full time wholesalers
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Originally posted by @Matt Hatton:
Who here is a full time wholesaler? If you could go back to the past and talk to the ‘you’ that was JUST starting out before having closed your first deal, what would you tell yourself knowing everything you know today? Your best tips, tricks, and advice. the must-do’s and the must-don’ts of wholesaling! All comments are welcomed!!
I would say to stay consistent with your marketing and make it happen. Take action wether it’s slow or fast or whatever the case may be. I would also suggest partnering up with a licensed broker. This is what I have done.
Reason for this is simple. You’re generating leads through your marketing and you don’t want those leads to go to waste if your offer is not accepted. If you have a good relationship or partnership with a broker you can refer him to the property owner and have him sign them up for a listing.
Many offers are not accepted at times and it’s best to convert those leads to a realtor that will be able to help the people out going the traditional route.
Bada bing bada Boom!
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Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Matt Hatton:
Who here is a full time wholesaler? If you could go back to the past and talk to the ‘you’ that was JUST starting out before having closed your first deal, what would you tell yourself knowing everything you know today? Your best tips, tricks, and advice. the must-do’s and the must-don’ts of wholesaling! All comments are welcomed!!
Well 1st thing I need to tell you all is that Wholesaling as it's taught is a myth. You need a license to Broker real estate. That's all wholesaling is, it's brokering real estate except instead of being up front & telling the distressed seller that you'll sell their property for X amount & take X amount as your commission / fee you are taught to lie to the seller & pretend you are going to buy the property while you secretly attempt to "assign" your contract.
It doesn't work. Nobody has any respect for wholesalers. Whenever a wholesaler contact me I simply get the information about the property & reach out to the owner myself cutting the wholesaler out of the deal entirely. If you do business above board as a licensed agent that won't happen to you. The only people making money wholesaling are the guys selling the education.
Now that we've got the above out of the way let me explain to you that brokering real estate or connecting buyers and sellers is a pretty lucrative job if you are really good at it. Things you would need to focus on to excel at it are as follows.
- An in depth knowledge of the market.
- Marketing skills.
- Sales skills.
- Negotiation skills.
- Accurately estimate rehab costs.
- Understand how to much time it would cost to run a renovation on the properties you are presenting.
In Michigan people are doing this all day. If it was illegal I don’t think reputable businesses such as title companies and attourneys wouldn’t be facilitating the transactions. I could be wrong but I’ve heard in Ohio it was affecting the traditional real estate business and all of the realtors joined an alliance and protested against the title companies from doing these transactions so the wholesaling in Ohio is dead since then.
Post: Challenging all deniers..Detroit Economy & Market are ON FIRE!!!
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Originally posted by @Calvin Thomas:
Originally posted by @Alex K.:
Originally posted by @Calvin Thomas:
Originally posted by @Isaura Orellana:@Calvin T.Tell that to all the average investors who have experienced Herculean returns in Detroit over the past few years. Better yet tell that to Dan Gilbert get back to me @Calvin.
Originally posted by @Alex K.:
Originally posted by @Calvin Thomas:
Not the greatest chart in terms of population. It's basically back to the same population 100 years ago. I wish you the best of luck.
http://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities/detroit-population/
Different numbers everywhere I look.
I wonder where these guys pull this data.
Have no idea who Dan Gilbert is. We're in NY/NJ/CT/PA/IL/MA. We've looked at Detroit a few times, we see nothing put pain. It's in a downward population spiril until at least 2030 (according to the City of Detroit - Google it). That city needs BILLIONS of funding (or divine intervention) and federal/state grants before that place is even on the level of South Philly (and this place is B-A-D). I wish both of you well. Perhaps you guys are able to get it to work. We tend to stay out of war zones or pending war zones. But hey, if you guys can do it, you've carved yourself a really cool niche market.
You mentioned Gilbert for the record.
When I was in my teens we lived about 30 mins from Detroit so my buddies and I would go down to the “war zone” to hang out in the city.
Some of those buildings in certain areas were going for 20-50k at the time (2011-2012) Same buildings today are 4-500k+ and that’s not including the 300-400k rehab needed on them.
Although I was very young I was still trying to convince my parents to buy it for me in return they lectured me about going to Detroit and hanging out 😔
To each is own I guess and it’s been pretty good for me since I’ve started in my early 20’s. The only pain is the daily 30-45 min commute and dealing with some of the people at times.
I figure in 10-20 years I keep doing what I’m doing and I’ll be alright.
Speaking of NY what was it like 20-30 years ago? What Were people buying the “war zone” properties rehabbing and raising rent kind of thing ?
I have no idea who this Dan Gilbert is. For the record, nope you are incorrect, here's my 1st post:
Originally posted by @Calvin T.:
Not the greatest chart in terms of population. It's basically back to the same population 100 years ago. I wish you the best of luck.
http://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities/detroit-population/
If you think Detroit is anything like New York City metro or certain parts of Connecticut, Chicagoland, Boston, Jersey City, Hobken or North Philly, you're greatly mistaken. Kwame and his goons really killed that city even worse then it was. No disrepect to your city. None of these cities were ever as bad as Detroit is currently. Even New York City in the 70's wasn't as bad as Detroit nowadays. Completely different animals. Detroit destroyed itself when they didn't innovate past the big three auto makers. Your City and surrounding areas was too dependent on Ford, Chrysler and General Motors. Then when they and their suppliers (I.E. Delphi) either closed up shop or moved out of the area Detroit was up the river without a paddle. It's going to take decades for Detroit to come back. The real pain hasn't even started. If you made your money, congrats. Sell and move to greener pastures. I hear Columbus, OH is coming up.
Time will tell that the only thing mistaken is your opinion on Detroit today because you’re basing it off some 15+ years ago newspaper at the grocery store.
What happened to these other markets you mentioned is starting to happen here. We have all the necessary infrastructure, fresh water, access to international waters, and plenty of solid buildings for the population growth to come for many years.
So if I keep the ball rolling like I have been by the time I’m an old timer like you 40 years from now I think I’ll be alright. Thanks for your grocery store comments and input though