All Forum Posts by: Allan B.
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Post: Is HOA Estoppel necessary prior to listing?

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- Fort Lauderdale, FL
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I am listing my home for sale to see if I get any offers that I like. If I receive an offer that I like, I will sell the home.
The home is in a HOA, and has no restrictions in selling, so I am free to sell. However, one peculiar thing is the HOA property manager is insisting that I pay for an Estoppel even prior to listing. Is this necessary and can they force me to do this? I don't see this any where in the HOA doc, and am wondering if its common practice to get an Estoppel PRIOR to getting into contract. I fully understand, once I am in contract, I will need to pay for and get an Estoppel on behalf of the buyer. However, I do not want to pay for something that I might not need (in case I don't receive a good enough offer and keep the home).
Any input and advice will be appreciated.
Post: I am selling a home in a gated community, how can potential buyers access?

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- Fort Lauderdale, FL
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I am flipping a home, but it's a in a gated community (non-manned). I plan on putting in on the MLS, but how do potential buyers (buyer's agents) access the property?
I suppose I could leave in the instructions to type in my number in the Gate Box, which would then call my cell phone, and then I can open the gate for them remotely. But I would have to do this each time, and what if I'm not able to pick up my phone at the time?
How is this typically done?
Post: Two simultaneous first mortgages on a property, one is foreclosing, what happens?

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- Fort Lauderdale, FL
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Thanks for your answers. I live in Florida, so assume Florida. I think in Florida the recording date is the defining method of prioritization.
From all these answers, I would presume Bank B is able to foreclose out Bank A (not vice versa), and Bank A is out of luck and should have done a last-second title check just before recording their mortgage...
But, what if Bank A even did the last-second title check, and found that Bank B had already recorded a mortgage? At this point, wouldn't Bank A already have given the money to the buyer and the mortgage is already executed? Bank A could say "Oh crap, there's a freaking Bank B", and then not record its mortgage...but what would it do after this?
Post: Two simultaneous first mortgages on a property, one is foreclosing, what happens?

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- Fort Lauderdale, FL
- Posts 26
- Votes 2
Consider this scenario:
1. Bob is purchasing a home, and starts applying for mortgages, and is shopping around. Home purchase price is $500k.
2. Two banks, namely Bank A and Bank B, offer him a first mortgage, each in the amount of $300k.
3. Sneakily, Bob accepts both mortgages, and each bank is not aware of the other bank's mortgage.
4. Bob gets both mortgages, and uses $500k of the $600k received to purchase the home, and pockets the additional $100k.
5. Bank A's mortgage contract date is 01/01/14, and recording date is 01/10/14.
6. Bank B's mortgage contract date is 01/02/14, and recording date is 01/09/14 (earlier thank Bank's recording date).
What happens in this case? Which lien gets priority? Both banks did not receive adequate notice of each other's encumbrances.
Can Bank B foreclose on owner, claiming first priority, due to an earlier recording date (but later contract date)?
Post: Second mortgage foreclosing and claimed priority over first, bidding

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- Fort Lauderdale, FL
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I see an instance where a property has two mortgages, Mortgage A (by Bank A) recorded earlier, and Mortgage B (by Bank B) recorded later. Mortgage B does not have any subordination language, nor does it indicate HELOC language. An no additional financing or subordination agreements are recorded.
Strange thing is, Bank B is foreclosing on this property, naming Bank A as defendant, claiming it has superior interest against all defendants (including the listed Bank A). It appears that Bank A has not responded to the complaint, and the foreclosure judgement was been executed, scheduled for an auction date soon.
In this case, will a third-party buyer get a free and clear title (not subject to First Mortgage) if they win the auction?
Assuming auction takes place, and third party wins, can Bank A realize its mistake and file an appeal later on?