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All Forum Posts by: Alex T.

Alex T. has started 23 posts and replied 67 times.

Post: Plumbing service plan worth it?

Alex T.Posted
  • Investor
  • Newton, MA
  • Posts 67
  • Votes 18

I have 2 triplexes near Boston that I self-manage. I've put in a lot of money into renovations mainly because initially it was non-stop repair calls. I now have new bathrooms, new boilers, new water tanks and yet I still keep getting frequent plumbing issues. Now as the winter is approaching I got 2 calls in 1 week about boilers that are refusing to start. Both of these boilers are about 3-4 years old.

Being an engineer by trade, I first decided to look at them myself in case it's something trivial. Neither problem was straight forward. I called several plumbing/heating companies and many were booked until next week. One suggested signing up for their service plan ($20/month per apartment) which includes one annual boiler checkup prior to the winter to avoid issues like mine and small discount on regular plumbing services (50% off of service call charge of $95 and 10% off labor costs after).

Is this something you guys would recommend? If not, do you manually service/clean your boilers annually to avoid these issues in the fall and manually call the plumber on case-by-case basis? I don't see this brought up much on the forums, but if even new furnaces have issues occur annually, I don't see how this would scale for people with more rentals.

Post: Evicting a tenant right after buying the house

Alex T.Posted
  • Investor
  • Newton, MA
  • Posts 67
  • Votes 18

Sure, let me know his contact info. As far as serving her immediately, if she has intentionally been opening violations with the city (whether dubious or not), don't I have to close them first to avoid her claiming any retaliation?

Post: Evicting a tenant right after buying the house

Alex T.Posted
  • Investor
  • Newton, MA
  • Posts 67
  • Votes 18

I just purchased a triplex in Dorchester with 2 tenants in it. One of the tenants reached out to me, and what started as a friendly conversation quickly escalated out of control. The tenant first mentioned issues she reported with the unit to the previous landlord, I wrote them down and said I'd take care of them (mostly small pest control problems). As conversation continued, the tenant's aggression towards previous landlord quickly turned into aggression towards me.

I was accused of not reaching out to the tenant to speak to her prior to the purchase (without having any contact info for her), of not being aware of the minor problems she just told me about in the property I owned for all of 3 days, and then of not sympathizing enough with her situation of being a single mother (why she even brought this up is beyond me). I thanked her for the info and said I would see what I can do, trying to avoid confrontation.

She then mentioned that the building has a long history of city violations (all reported by her), and that it's her right to report all of them because I should be grateful that Section 8 is paying me (below market) for her to live there (she pays nothing). She then claimed that she is studying for a law degree and therefore knows her rights. She also mentioned that she hates the neighborhood and wants to move, immediately following up with "but you would have to pay me to move" (she is clearly aware of the concept of cash-for-keys since she brought it up without me asking). She also refused to provide the contact info for her case worker until I give her my email (even though she has been texting me everything else). I'm not sure why she needs my email, but I'm no longer comfortable with her having it.

The conversation made it clear that this is not a tenant I'm interested in keeping. She has entitlement mentality, victim mentality, and a host of other issues. Moreover, her obsession with local laws and abusing them is not something I want to deal with. Today I talked to her case worker (got his contact info from Boston Housing directly) and he mentioned that I'm allowed to serve her with a 30-day notice to quit immediately because I'm a new landlord. I'm confused how this is different from the regular 30-day notice to quit that any landlord can serve? Does being a new landlord of the building give me more rights when getting old tenants out? Can I get her out quickly?

@Rich N. I have the actual lease, I specifically requested all leases at the time of purchase. The inspection was 2 days ago for 2 of the units, I passed both. In fact, the eviction attorney said that if I didn't pass, it could hurt my eviction case - so this worked out well (because usually they fail you for minor stuff, like tenant taking the batteries out of a smoke alarm).

I am working with the handler and officially nothing else is required of me aside from tenant honoring my notice to quit and moving out. Luckily, housing is willing to pay while the tenant is still on premises even if the lease is over. As far as notice to quit, I had my attorney put it together to make sure I don't screw it up, so the language and explanation is in compliance with MA laws, it's a "for a cause" notice to quit + eviction

@Nicole A. Thanks, also it's not so much that I'm dragging my feet, it's MA. I'm not allowed to serve the eviction until the 30-day notice expires, it expired a few days ago and my initial plan was to give the tenant 1-month written extension, which was before I realized the water bill situation. I also didn't want her to make an argument that I gave her unreasonably short amount of time to move.

Because with them paying that 70% portion (around $1400) I'm actually able to soften the blow and survive this. Without that $1400/mo, I'm losing even more. To me continuing to receive this $1400/mo doesn't sound ridiculous at all.

As far as PM, I don't see how that would reduce problems in this case. I'd still be paying for it, I'd just find out about these issues later. Like other investors on these forums, my strategy is to screen tenants on the way in rather than dealing with this on the way out, and I think I have done a good job with the other tenant who moved in. This tenant, unfortunately, came with the property.

@Mike Hurney I'm working with Jordana Greenman, she was recommended by a good friend of mine as an attorney that understands the system well. She also warned me the eviction could take anywhere from 6 weeks to 2 years.

The thing is, I realize that if I go to court, I'll win the case. Problem is the additional damage that happens before the court date. I don't want this tenant running my water (and flooding other tenants) for 2 years while the court system drags its feet. And sure, this tenant will lose her voucher, but I'll lose a lot more too. I am actually considering cash for keys as an option.

@Colleen F. I actually found a non-invasive device for automatic water shut off that shuts off after 2 hours and resets itself if you turn off the water for 20 seconds. It seemed perfect for my use case (and also would do no harm to a tenant using the system as intended) but the city said that I'm not allowed to use it because it tampers with the water supply. Again, yet another Massachusetts law that seems to be out of touch with reality.

I wonder if such abuse of water is enough grounds to call the cops on her? I may have a precedent since she already flooded the place once so clearly she's putting other tenants in danger.

@Melvin Noriega she technically has no rights to be in the unit at all anymore aside from the ones provided by the state of Massachusetts to prevent "unfair landlord practices". She should have already left, I can tell her she has to leave in May and she will probably ignore it again. In which case my option is to start the eviction process (I can technically start it today) and watch her retaliate for a few months while the legal system takes its time. I wish the person who came up with MA laws could experience this first hand to understand what they've done.

Similarly, I can speak with Section 8 director, get her out of the program, and what then? I'll still have her in my unit except now I won't be receiving 70% of the rent from the government, no other landlord will take her because she's unable to pay, and she got even less to lose.

A little over a year ago I bought a triplex in Chelsea with 2 tenants in place. I've poured a lot of money into repairs because previous landlord didn't take care of anything, then I put in a 3rd tenant. I've been lucky enough to form a very good relationship with one of the previous tenants and the new tenant, and unlucky enough to inherit a professional tenant in the making from previous landlord. All tenants are section 8. The problem tenant's lease expired a few years ago and she's now in the month-to-month phase. The problem is... we're in mASSachusetts.

I served the problem tenant with a 30-day notice to quit for:

- failing to pay a portion of her rent

- having a large, loud dog in the unit illegally

- noise and disturbance to other tenants

- excessive wear and tear (explained below)

Prior to this notice multiple issues transpired throughout the year:

- She kept complaining about things breaking in her unit like clockwork every 2 weeks or so (at first I thought it was due to deferred repairs by previous landlord)

- After I increased the rent (and her portion went up slightly), she called about an "emergency" (broken toilet), I immediately asked for a photo to figure out whom to send, the problem was that "someone" in her unit ripped off the lid. I bought a new seat in Home Depot for $10 and replaced it. It was a minor item, but the way it transpired felt very much like revenge for the rent increase.

- Over the next few months things continued breaking in her unit, luckily they were cheap things and the other two tenants felt bad and volunteered to help with the repairs as long as I buy the materials (I'm really lucky to have gotten 2 other tenants who care about the property's well-being).

- The other two tenants also mentioned to me that she routinely starts noisy fights with her wife/kids as late as 3 am, and I've heard her being obnoxiously loud a few times when I visited during the day. She did have the old neighbors call the cops on her, but not the current tenants who feel bad doing so.

- She's been late on a portion of her rent check for almost a year now (there is a $200 balance she keeps forgetting to pay, and recently she failed to pay the rest, currently the amount is $600)

- In December she clogged her toilet and I had to call a sewage company for $300 to fix it (the lease I inherited from previous landlord says nothing of her responsibility with unclogging things so I had no power to shift the expense to her)

- In February, "someone" in her unit dislodged the toilet (on Friday) and it started leaking even after my handyman fixed it (same day). I called my plumber but he took a few days to come because it was the weekend and he was out of town (the toilet was still usable but a puddle would form around it every day). She was furious and made sure to yell at everyone who was remotely involved (me, the handyman, other tenants, and the contractor who eventually replaced it). The contractor took apart the wall, replaced the toilet with a brand new one, the pipe leading up to it and the wax ring. The contractor later told me that the only reason he works on her unit is out of respect for me and he dreads coming to do her repairs every single time.

- Two weeks later she complains that her toilet is leaking again (she really hates toilets apparently), after my handyman (not the contractor) inspected it, he said that she mistook condensation for a leak. This (combined with unpaid rent) was the last straw, and I served her with a 30-day notice to quit.

- 3 weeks later I got a message from 1st floor tenant about water leaking from the ceiling in his bathroom. After we investigated (2nd floor tenant wasn't home), we realized that the problem originated from 3rd floor (the problem tenant). I had the tenant shut off the water to entire building immediately, and after talking to her, she again claimed it was the toilet. I was later told that circuit breakers kept shutting off for the entire day after that. First floor tenant also mentioned that he heard her yelling at other members of her family. At the time I didn't think much of it.

- Next day I had my handyman investigate everything in her bathroom and find no leaks or problems. I also called her and had a chat with her, explaining that me trying to get her out is not a personal issue, but a combination of wanting to take better care of the unit and keep the other two tenants happy. She seemed to be understanding.

- By the end of 30-day notice to quit, she still had no new residence lined up, I had section 8 housing talk to her (who seem to also sympathize with me but tell me their hands are tied for the most part) and talked to her myself. We agreed to a 1-month extension on the condition that she pays outstanding balance (she hasn't) and also that she'd be liable for eviction fees should that occur (the deadline is end of April).

- Shortly after that agreement (which btw, I have NOT signed, but she has - because she failed to be home at the time we agreed to meet and I and I left it in her mailbox - also saying it's due by April 1, a deadline she failed to meet (she signed it on the 5th) and also part of the requirement was her paying the outstanding balance, so my attorney says the agreement is void unless I want to honor it) I got my water bill... it was about $2100 for that month, previous bills have been barely over $300 for all 3 units.

- I called the city and they sent me an itemized usage by day, the correlation between between the above events that transpired and usage is too much of a coincidence to dismiss. Despite the leaking toilet that she broke, the usage did NOT go up much for those few days. The day after she had a fight with my contractor who replaced the toilet, the usage doubled (I didn't even talk to her that time). Two weeks later, after she said it was leaking again and the handyman looked at it, the usage more than doubled again (it became 5 times what the average was, my guess is that she had a fight with the handyman as well). A little more than a week later the usage went back to normal (this happens to coincide with the time when the other two tenants told me she left for the weekend to visit her sister). On Monday right after that the usage again skyrocketed (this is when I served her with 30-day notice), 11 days later she flooded the entire house, which is when she yelled at her family members. Initially I thought one of her kids left the sink on and stopper closed, now I'm thinking that this is the first time they ****ed up their sabotage and had the water flood the neighbors below rather than skyrocket my water bill (so she was mad about the fact that her family spoiled her sabotage rather than at the fact that they damaged the property). 2nd floor tenant also mentioned that she heard the water running daily when the 3rd floor tenants would leave the house but didn't think much of it (I wish she told me this earlier).

- I've analyzed a few options, sub-metering is a no-go because Massachusetts laws are flawed and don't allow it until a new tenant moves in, by which time I'll probably be bankrupt (because eviction can take up to 2 years and is very tenant-friendly, at the same time this tenant can keep wasting $2k+ worth of water every month). Continuing with eviction is also dangerous as the tenant may just leave water running 24/7. This normally wouldn't be too big of a problem if the state didn't suck with their eviction timelines, which can take up to 2 years.

- After talking to my eviction attorney, she also did some research and noticed that this tenant was already evicted out of her last residence (so the previous landlord didn't do his homework, or didn't care), I've also looked at her eviction case myself and it looks like she's not yet organized or experienced enough to be a professional tenant, but she's definitely getting there.

- The other two tenants really appreciate everything I have done and are willing to help out in whichever way they can (whether it is acting as a witness in court or preventing her from doing more harm).

I understand that in Massachusetts I can do very little as a landlord against being abused this way, but if there is anything myself or my other tenants can do I'd love to know. In their own words, they're willing to accidentally block the water flow. Also, is this something I can get the police involved in?

My only options so far seem to be:

- Sue the tenant in small claims court and hope she will be too scared to do further damage (unlikely).

- Suck it up and face tens of thousands in damages at the end.

- Sue the city/state for such one-sided laws and hope something comes out of it (aside from me losing even more money).

- Bribe the tenant in some way and forget about the $2k+ damage they already caused (actually more like 3k, since the newly renovated 2nd floor bathroom is starting to get moldy from the flood she caused).

Post: submetering water and charging tenants in MA

Alex T.Posted
  • Investor
  • Newton, MA
  • Posts 67
  • Votes 18

@Roy N. that's good to know, but if I understand correctly, you're talking about a large single-family that was converted to a multi? Mine is a standard triple-decker, do you think that would still be a problem?

Post: submetering water and charging tenants in MA

Alex T.Posted
  • Investor
  • Newton, MA
  • Posts 67
  • Votes 18

I'm facing a $2000 water bill for previous month because one of my tenants (in a triplex) left the water running for over a day (she also flooded the two units below). Now, part of the problem is the tenant herself, whom I'm in the process of getting out of the unit. However, for future tenants, I would like to shift the cost of their negligence to them instead of being responsible for it myself.

I've done a bit of research into sub-metering in MA (http://www.mass.gov/courts/case-legal-res/law-lib/...), and it looks like the only requirement is that I also install low-flow toilets/sinks, etc. At first I thought sub-metering itself would be expensive (as with gas), but it looks like the water company is fine with me installing my own submeters and still using a single city meter for the building (http://www.bwsc.org/SERVICES/metering/submetering....).

Based on submeter prices on Amazon, it looks like I may be able to have my plumber retrofit existing water connections and install low-flow everything for under $1000. Does anyone have experience with charging tenants for water in Massachusetts? Any advice? Any new issues I'm opening myself up to?

Yes, you may got those calls, it's mostly based on luck and the kind of tenant you get (although sometimes may be a result of your own or previous landlord's deferred maintenance). This will only happen with small fraction of tenants, but it's enough of a headache.

I have a problem tenant in one of my units that I inherited from previous landlord. Last month she flooded 2 units below by forgetting to turn the water off. I had her call about a clogged toilet 2 months before and I also had to replace the toilet in her unit completely due to damage. Needless to say, I'm evicting her. Right now I'm looking at a $2000 water bill thanks to her negligence, which in MA the landlord is responsible for.

Overall I have 5 tenants, and most are good. Most problems fall into one of these categories:

  • rent is late
  • mice problem
  • something broken (plumbing-related repairs tend to be the more frustrating ones, but it could also be walls/doors, etc.)

The nice thing about this kind of experience is that you know which edge cases to put in your lease for the next tenant. Any toilet unclogging is now tenant responsibility in my leases.