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All Forum Posts by: Billy V.

Billy V. has started 13 posts and replied 52 times.

Post: Credit reporting once NOD is filed

Billy V.Posted
  • Investor
  • El Dorado Hills, CA
  • Posts 64
  • Votes 15

I have a possible buyer who had a foreclosure over 3 years ago but is still receiving 90 day late payments reported on their credit report every month. If the foreclosure is completed how can this be happening? How can they stop the 90 day late payment and remove the old ones (just the ones in error) if they should have not been place on their credit report?

Post: A Little Brain Storming

Billy V.Posted
  • Investor
  • El Dorado Hills, CA
  • Posts 64
  • Votes 15

Sorry for not making that clear. The email will have the offer attached. It will be all in one shot. The email is just a courtesy. I like to at least send a little introduction over.

Post: A Little Brain Storming

Billy V.Posted
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  • El Dorado Hills, CA
  • Posts 64
  • Votes 15

I thought I would bounce an idea off the board this morning. I recently sent out a larger mailer to a list of NOD's with very little response. I was a little discouraging. Then I read Motiv8d (Nick's) post on how he uses a "TBD" plus the actual list price to make an offer. If I am not explaining that well please see Nick's post:
http://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/103/topics/52195-helpful-tip-for-your-short-sale-contracts
Well this got me thinking about how this is a numbers game and the need for more motivated sellers. And who is more motivated that someone who has already listed their house with an agent? The problem is you have to explain the whole deal to them and try to get them on board as well as the buyer. Now here's my thought... with writable PDF contracts I can easily create an unlimited number of contracts. With Docusign I can sign a contract in under a minute. With email and the internet I can find and send paperless contract to an unlimited number of SS listings. I have my RE agents license and a buddy who is my broker and lets me keep all the commission as the selling agent . Why don't I send a quick email explaining that I am sending an offer over and if they are interested to contact me. The addendum explains the process and any followup questions they can contact me directly. My thought is that by sending over a contract with Nick's "TBD" offer price I will get the motivated agents/sellers calling me. The offer is on the table. It's one thing for an agent to say they don't get the whole concept and pass on the deal. It is a whole other thing for them to have a contract in hand and show it to the seller and say no.
The other key is that I can send out lots of offers and see how many replies I get back. I can easily send out 50, 100, 200 offers a week? Just depending on the response. It costs nothing.
Well it's Sunday morning, I'm rambling on and this just popped in my head so I thought I would throw it out there. Sorry if it does not make much sense.
All thoughts would be appreciated. Good idea, bad idea, the legality?

Thanks,

Billy

Post: Influencing the BPO

Billy V.Posted
  • Investor
  • El Dorado Hills, CA
  • Posts 64
  • Votes 15
Originally posted by Dan O'Connor:


That said, I typically prefer to approach short sales from a totally different direction and let my "competition" do all of the footwork and negotiation while I carve out my share of their profit 'under the radar', whenever possible.

It allows me to have a LOT more hooks in the water at the same time... kinda like runnin' a trotline with the powerbait du jour. :cool:

~Dan


Dan,

Can you elaborate on what you mean by letting the competition doing all the work?

Thanks, Billy

Post: Anyone doing outreach to agents with short sale listings?

Billy V.Posted
  • Investor
  • El Dorado Hills, CA
  • Posts 64
  • Votes 15

Great information everyone. I am curious who the B-C listing is with? Is it with the "A" seller or with you the "B" buyer?

Second when you list the property for the B-C portion is it listed as a short sale? If the A-B short sale is closing with with you then the second sale is not a short sale?

If there is a lack of profit and you need to step out of the deal for an A-C transaction who gets the commission? The A-B listing agent or the B-C listing agent you brought in? It seems someone is not going to get paid and will not be happy.

Thanks, Billy

Post: PDF Writer & e-sign

Billy V.Posted
  • Investor
  • El Dorado Hills, CA
  • Posts 64
  • Votes 15

Thanks Joshua,

EchoSign looks good and it is affordable. I really liked what DocQ had to offer but it had some operating issues and I have emailed the Tech department several times with no response. Here's to no paper work. :lol: :lol:

Post: PDF Writer & e-sign

Billy V.Posted
  • Investor
  • El Dorado Hills, CA
  • Posts 64
  • Votes 15

Hi All,

I am in california and am looking to simplify and streamline my docs. I have CAR forms in pdf and have found a few systems that allow me to write directly on the pdf, save and send. One also has the ability to do e-sign as well. This is DocQ.com. It seems pretty good but when I sent it to myself it was a little confusing if you did not know the system. Any other thoughts and or recommendations?

Thanks,
Billy

Post: FREDDIE & FRAUD!!

Billy V.Posted
  • Investor
  • El Dorado Hills, CA
  • Posts 64
  • Votes 15

Just wondering why it is only fraud if it hurts freddie? Doesn't the opposite apply? If there is another buyer why doesn't Freddie have an obligation to inform the buyer they were willing to take a lower offer?

Post: FREDDIE & FRAUD!!

Billy V.Posted
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  • El Dorado Hills, CA
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This was a reply to a post I had written on a different link. I thought it was a good one to share. I cut and paste from the Freddie website. I hope it is allowed to use content from other sites as long as it is sited. Thoughts? Comments?

The way I interpret it is that as long as you do not already have a buyer when you submit your short sale offer there is no. Fraud. It may be easier to hit the link rather than the cut and paste.

FYI,

If Freddie is involved... there will no doubt be some testing of their flawed logic soon:

[url]

http://www.freddiemac.com/singlefamily/news/2010/0412_payoff_fraud.html

~Dan

Emerging Fraud Trends: Short Payoff Fraud
Back to Single-Family News Center

Given increased defaults and declining property values in certain locations, the mortgage industry is experiencing an increase in short payoffs, sometimes called short sales. In fact, over the last two years, short payoff volume at Freddie Mac has grown more than 1,000 percent (2007-2009). This upward trend in volume leaves the market ripe for incidences of short payoff fraud.

What is a short payoff?

A short payoff occurs when a borrower cannot pay the mortgage on his or her property and is permitted to sell the property for less than the total amount due, at a loss to the lender, investor and/or insurer. All parties consent to the mortgage being paid "short," primarily because the property does not need to go through foreclosure. Please note that many legitimate short payoffs take place in the real estate market.
What is short payoff fraud?

According to a member of Freddie Mac's Fraud Investigation Unit, a slight variation of our general definition of mortgage fraud also defines short payoff fraud – "Any misrepresentation or deliberate omission of fact that would induce the lender, investor or insurer to agree to the terms of a short payoff that it would not approve had all facts been known." Misrepresentations in these schemes may include the buyer of the short payoff property, a subsequent transaction at a higher price, and/or the selling borrower’s hardship reason used to qualify for the short payoff. In many instances, the short payoff fraud will involve a "facilitator," engaged by either the listing agent or the selling borrower, to assist with negotiating the transaction.

How is short payoff fraud committed?

There are many variations of short payoff fraud. The example below is just one way this type of mortgage fraud can occur.

A seller (delinquent borrower) owes $100,000 on a property that is worth $80,000.
The short payoff facilitator negotiates with the bank to accept a $70,000 offer to purchase the property. In several instances, Freddie Mac has seen that this offer will be made directly by the facilitator or through an entity under his/her control.
The lender/investor accepts the offer for $70,000.
The facilitator neglects to disclose to the lender/investor that there is an outstanding offer between the facilitator and a second end-buyer for $95,000.
Both transactions close on the same day with the net difference being pocketed by the facilitator and increasing the lender/investor’s net losses.
At first glance, this may look like a legitimate short payoff. However, in this example, the fraud is the failure to disclose the second, higher offer. The facilitator is willfully withholding important information the same way a scam artist would, and the lender does not realize they are walking into a premeditated short payoff fraud scheme. Because the facilitator is deliberately withholding the higher offer, Freddie Mac also experiences a larger than necessary loss on this sale.

Short Payoff Fraud Prevention Red Flags

Remain alert to the following flags, which may suggest short payoff fraud:

Sudden borrower default, with no prior delinquency history, and the borrower cannot adequately explain the sudden default.
The borrower is current on all other obligations.
The borrower’s financial information indicates conflicting spending, saving, and credit patterns that do not fit a delinquency profile.
The buyer of the property is an entity.
The purchase contract has an option clause to resell the property.
Short Payoff Fraud Prevention

The following protective measures are recommended in order to detect and mitigate the severity of short payoff fraud:
Review all short payoff documentation carefully, including the sale contract. This helps determine if there is an option clause to resell the property at a higher price without notifying the lender.
Draft a short payoff arm’s-length affidavit/disclosure notice for all parties involved in the short payoff to help avoid any hidden contracts, or side agreements. The parties involved should be, but are not limited to: the buyer, seller, listing agent, selling agent, short payoff negotiator(s)/facilitator(s), and closing agent.
Solicit information from your borrower.
Inquire if the borrower is aware of any other parties involved with the short payoff other than real estate professionals.
Is there a short payoff negotiator/facilitator involved?
Is the borrower aware of any other purchase contracts on the property?
Require an executed and signed IRS Form 4506-T, Request for Transcript of Tax Return,from each borrower and process the form to determine if the borrower’s qualifying income is accurate.
Order an interior Broker Price Opinion (BPO) and review all other BPOs that have been ordered on the property (drive-bys and full interiors) to establish a high/low value variance. The BPOs should include a past and present Multiple Listing Service (MLS) listing history, as this will determine if the property was relisted in MLS while the short payoff is being processed.
Review the Freddie Mac Exclusionary List to see if the parties to the short payoff are on the list. Seller/Servicers can access the Exclusionary List via the selling system, MIDANET®, MultiSuite®, and Loan Prospector®.
Immediately notify Freddie Mac if you are aware of a second purchase contract for a higher price.

Post: Profiting from A to C when B to C fails

Billy V.Posted
  • Investor
  • El Dorado Hills, CA
  • Posts 64
  • Votes 15

Dan, I hope you don't mind I am going to start another topic with the link you attached. I thought is was very interesting. Thanks for the great info.