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All Forum Posts by: Blake Dailey

Blake Dailey has started 44 posts and replied 283 times.

Post: When can I rent out my owner occupied house?

Blake DaileyPosted
  • Investor
  • Ogden, UT
  • Posts 295
  • Votes 208

For most agency owner occupied loans like FHA and VA loans you have to PLAN to stay in the house for 365 days. After that you are free to get another owner occupied loan. The plan portion is a loose term though. Things can change - life circumstances, baby, new job, etc. that can make an exception to the rule. At closing on these loans you sign a document (one of the many) that states that you plan on making the home your primary residence for a year. If you get this kind of loan with the intention of renting the house out and immediately do you are technically committing mortgage fraud. But if you move into the house and make it your primary residence and then, say, 8 months later you get a new job in a different town you are allowed to rent the home. I would just caution you to be careful and have the discussion with your lender if you find yourself wanting to rent your home before the year mark. I say that just so you have all the information! My wife and I plan on purchasing another house hack this summer once we reach our year point.

Post: Underwriting Multi-Family Deals

Blake DaileyPosted
  • Investor
  • Ogden, UT
  • Posts 295
  • Votes 208

I have found Michael Blank's material to be beneficial. He walks you through analyzing deals, but with his deal analyzing spreadsheet - which I have also found to be a decent resource. I have found myself changing some things as I go through it but for the price it is definitely valuable.

Post: Syndication Investing During a Recession

Blake DaileyPosted
  • Investor
  • Ogden, UT
  • Posts 295
  • Votes 208

@Brian Burke I've spent the time at home since the military base I am stationed at is all but closed refocusing my way forward on multifamily. Uncertain times like this open up opportunities for those that are well capitalized, don't over leverage, and invest for cash flow. I have followed those rules in my own investing thus far and have been fine through this scare. I am not succumbing to fear but preparing to buy multifamily deals with 75% or less leverage that cash flow and by raising adequate reserves. Preservation of investors capital is my number one goal followed of course by making good returns on safe (comparative) assets.

I have seen lenders tightening requirements on new loans so that is a big focus of mine within this space in the near future.

Post: How to start on multifamily? Refinance?

Blake DaileyPosted
  • Investor
  • Ogden, UT
  • Posts 295
  • Votes 208

Since you have equity in your properties you could sell and 1031 the proceeds into a larger investment with higher cash flow. If you are going to break into a whole new strategy I would spend time educating and defining your way forward. You can start with previous BP forum and blog posts about multifamily investing.

Post: My Wholesale Veterans!!

Blake DaileyPosted
  • Investor
  • Ogden, UT
  • Posts 295
  • Votes 208

Your next step to scale is to build and purchase your lists so you can hit targeted groups of sellers. Doing this you can tailor your message. Split test with different methods to see what works best. Track all of your methods and KPIs to fine tune and keep scaling.

Post: Deciding on an Offer for an Apartment Complex HELP!

Blake DaileyPosted
  • Investor
  • Ogden, UT
  • Posts 295
  • Votes 208

It seems like that accountant may not be doing a great job in accounting for the properties expenses. But that is opportunity for you! I would not rely on the accountant/seller's provided profit and loss statement (P&L) but verify as much as you can. I would want to see the rent roll to see what is actually coming in and from what units and the trailing 12 months expenses to track what is going out.

Once you have this info you can compare to the market. Likely the units are being under rented so do online research on places like zillow, apartments.com, etc. to find rent comps - also speak with a local property manager. If you use the local property manager they should be able to help with the due diligence items as well. If you find that units are rented for lower than market rents, run your projections implementing those upgrades. I analyze conservatively knowing that the units will probably need some repairs and vacancy will go up over the stabilization period until all the repairs are made and units are rented up to market rent. That is how you can optimize income (in a nutshell).

To figure out how to optimize expenses, look at what the current expenses are - it sounds like they are high in this case. I would look at their P&L and if their total expenses are less than 50% of the effective gross income, then they are probably reporting low. I would suggest using 50% or their reported expenses, whichever is higher (ex. if they report 60%, use 60%). From there look where you can cut back. It sounds like you have a good idea of the insurance - but still get several quotes. And beware of taxes, when you purchase they will likely go up because the seller will likely sell for higher than the current assessed value. Find out your area's tax percentage rate and the estimated purchase price to ballpark the new tax expense. Find what you can cut and implement a plan to cut it. 

For the utilities you can look into implementing a RUBS system which is a way to calculate the expense each tenant generates for utilities each month and then you bill back the tenants that amount. This shifts the responsibility from you to the tenant on who pays utilities. Also look at other comparable properties and make sure they have separate utilities or else implementing RUBS may decrease the rental amount you can charge so you will have to look into that and weigh the costs if all landlords pay utilities in your area.

Next you need to determine the cap rate for that area. Call brokers, talk to other investors, ask people on BP to find the cap rate for your area on that size and class of property. This will come in handy in the next part.

Once you find the CURRENT income and expenses for the property, you can determine your NOI. Then divide that NOI by the cap rate you found by talking to brokers, etc. to determine the value of the property. The value you come up with will likely be lower than the asking price because either the actual income is less than the reported or the expenses are higher or both. But this is where in your offer you back it up with the data you used to find your price because apartments are valuated based on the NOI.

However, you also ran your own numbers with your projections based on the data you found doing all the above things. This should yield you a higher NOI. If it doesn't, it might not be a good deal. But if it does and you apply the same cap rate to the higher NOI the value you determined in your projection should be higher. To be more competitive you can increase your price closer to that number. Be careful though because this, in my opinion, is like paying the seller for the potential of the property and frankly like paying them for your effort. But if it helps you get the deal and the numbers still work then by all means do it because you have your plan on how to increase that value.

I hope all of that helped and that you can make the deal work!
 

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Post: Conventional Loan Vs. FHA Home Loan

Blake DaileyPosted
  • Investor
  • Ogden, UT
  • Posts 295
  • Votes 208

With the FHA loan you can put less down, which will increase your ROI. But with this loan you will have lower cash flow due to having a higher loan amount and having PMI which is an added cost to because you are putting less than 20% down. However, if you but a good deal under market, you could refinance after the seasoning period at a 70-80% LTV (depending on the lender) and get rid of the PMI, and depending on the new loan amount may leave your mortgage lower. This is the route I would go.

With a conventional loan you will have more cash flow but lower ROI. I think it depends on the deal and your personal preference.

Post: Indianapolis Fix n' Flip

Blake DaileyPosted
  • Investor
  • Ogden, UT
  • Posts 295
  • Votes 208

Congrats on the deal! Do your wholesalers in Indianapolis find multifamily deals as well?

Post: Multifamily Marketing Sources

Blake DaileyPosted
  • Investor
  • Ogden, UT
  • Posts 295
  • Votes 208

Cozy syndicates to Realtor.com and Doorsteps.com. I have also found success with craigslist and Facebook advertisements for filling my vacancies.