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All Forum Posts by: Bob Johnson

Bob Johnson has started 3 posts and replied 22 times.

TIC that includes the shed (and what little yard there is) as a freebie...I'm taking the shed, my business partner will be taking the 1BR apartment to live in and oversee the short term rental that I'm looking to make the shed...

Originally posted by @Amit M.:

@Bob Johnson

Are you buying just the shed? Or a tic unit that includes the shed as a “freebie”?

In SF, it has to be a building that is already in place if it's over 100 sq', which this is. I would avoid a Tuff Shed to be honest, pouring a slab and framing up a tiny house would probably not be that much more, and it would add more to the value of the main living quarters.

Originally posted by @Account Closed:

On the contrary I spoke with an experienced General Contractor who said permitting shouldn't be that difficult, however I don't have any direct experience with permitting yet!

As for the ADU itself, I am beginning to look at Tuff Shed, apparently they build shells for ADU. Has anyone looked at it yet?

If I hire an architect to help design & permits, get the foundation done by a licensed contractor, have Tuff Shed build the shell (they install it too), and if you can hire out subs to finish up the rest like electrical, plumbing, HVAC, flooring etc.. would self managing the project work?

I did an excel calc based on the quotes I received and my prices are coming to about $300 per sq feet all inclusive. Perhaps I am over simplifying?

I'm patient, and I know this is going to take over a year, but the cost of entry is painfully cheap, that's the only reason I'm considering this. And I think SF proper is 6-9 months right now, apparently Peninsula even crazier! And about $500/sq' is about what I have budgeted, which still makes this a no brainer.

Contractors I've been speaking to have told me that ADU permits in the city are taking 12 to 18 months to get approved. I've been trying to get a permit on the Peninsula and my application has been sitting for 7 months and counting.

I am curious how much your $/square foot are estimated to be for your proposed ADU. I have gotten a couple of bids that are in the near $550/square foot which seems really high. I was expecting $400/ft but this is my first construction project. Are my expectations are just way off?

Jeff Lee

Great insight Guillaume, thank you!  And yes, if you have an architect please forward me his info if you can, I would appreciate it. Going through an ADA issue with a front door on a retail place I own - I know the routine regarding "connections" in SF lol...

I have a chance to buy in (via TIC) to what is basicly a 10' x 24' shed at an advantageous price that I've been given the verbal ok from SF Planning that would work for an ADU. I'd have to run sewer and all utilities to it, as well as do a studs down remodel (it actually has good bones and a reletively newer asphalt shingle roof). Assuming a $100K build/permitting budget, and 80% occupancy once it's done as an AirBNB rental, it "should" yield me almost 10%, and be a possible condo candidate in 2022 when the lottery opens again.

The question is, what pitfalls aren't I seeing here? I have a contractor (who doesn't know ADU law), a PM and cleaning crew lined up (I own other properties in The City, and have done VRBO in other houses, so I know those issues). What can SF Planning do to me to go back on their word? Any particular city inspector problems for these things?

Thanks in advance for any insight, I appreciate it!

Post: Looking to split a 2 on 1 in La Jolla, possible cloud condo?

Bob JohnsonPosted
  • Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 3
Matt - That's great info, thank you!  Regarding water & sewer, I assume contact SD Water first and tell them my plans?  I assume they tell me to get a contractor to add a meter (looks easy) and run independent sewer outflows from each house (might involve an act of Congress)?

And they are legal lots, tax assessor even notates it on my bill. That part I can just follow the bouncing ball on with them.


Originally posted by @Matt Devincenzo:

@Bob Johnson I work here locally doing land use/planning and site civil. Personally you may not have as much of an issue as you think....i.e. I would go in for your water/sewer first without initiating the discretionary processing. After that file for a lot segregation with the County Assessor. FYI if you have legal lots, you may not NEED any discretionary processing through the City and can deed them off without a discretionary review. If you're able to go that route you can proceed with your Coastal Permit/Planned Development permit afterwards without the hangups about setbacks ect.

Also....on those old railroad lots your legal setbacks are 3' for substandard lot widths. So again...maybe not really the problem you might think it is.

Post: Looking to split a 2 on 1 in La Jolla, possible cloud condo?

Bob JohnsonPosted
  • Investor
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 3

Hi all!  I have a 2 on 1 in La Jolla (both are the same - 2BR/1BA, attached garage, 875 sq') and I'm looking to split the lot. If not that, then I would like to cloud condo the 2 properties so I could sell them seperately down the road once I add second stories to them (that's a whole 'nother thread!).

They are both on their own lots according to the assessor, they were just developed as a 2 on 1 back in the 40's before developers realized the City of SD would become land owner's enemy #1. Set backs are not proper, one water meter serves both properties, and sewer for one runs under the other house.

I know I'm in for something close to $50K in engineering and filing fees to do this, but my question is: is anyone familiar with engineering /architecture firms here that are pros as far as getting this done, ie, it's what they do? 

Thanks in advance for any insight!

This was the hotels paying for influence in San Diego, pure and simple. 

Been renting in La Jolla for 5+ years, I pay my 10.5% city taxes, turn away 2 of every 3 applicants and go empty most of the 9 slow months. Neighbors love me, I rehabbed a pair of run down beach cottages into really cute places, with yards that are low water and look amazing. 

My most likely scenario now? I sell to the highest bidder, 1031 into something out of state, they scrape the buildings, and drop in a pair of shoulder to shoulder 30' tall flagstone castles.

You win La Jolla...enjoy!

And thank you Derek and Christopher!

My understanding is if I have a 4 year degree and majored/minored in real estate, I can bypass the 2 year agent requirement in CA. and take the broker's exam, which is fairly involved.  I took 2-3 classes, and have 10+ years of property mgmt experience, which I'm hoping will suffice, but not sure, so if anyone has any insight, I'd appreciate it!