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All Forum Posts by: Bob S.

Bob S. has started 7 posts and replied 35 times.

Post: Buying turnkey for first investment property?

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@Duarte Marques - this is exactly the same topic i was about to post about. thank you for opening this discussion! i am following!

Post: Are we the last generation of landlord ?

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Quote from @Peter Mckernan:
Quote from @Carlos Ptriawan:

Especially @James Hamling   , just read a market statistic and its mind blowing.
The age of first time home buyer in California is now 49 years old, in 1980 it used to be 32 years old.
In TX:  37 years old and FL is 42 years old.

The youngest age for FTBH in 2021 is located at the state of Iowa for 29 years old. 

It just mean in CA it's almost impossible for next generation to be landlord then, unless it's an inheritance.
And this very long time boom cycle is giving very advantageous position for baby boomers that lived in CA and purchase houses. 

No wonder Florida and Texas price is going up in early 2020s !!


 Yeah, the stats seem to be going up on the age of people buying these days even through the US. The higher-priced states and areas are the ones that are pricing the people out and putting them in the placement for holding until they have the money to do the purchase.. Or house hacking, or getting a partner to join in the purchase (or family).

The other thing is that you need to realize the more the years go on with technology and data the longer the average human lives too. This is something to consider (not just focusing on CA). 

For instance, 1980 the average person lived to 74 y/o and now it's 79 y/o. and in 5-10 years (not 40 like this topic) it will be 10 or more years added to that number. 

hmm...

https://ourworldindata.org/financing-healthcare?_kx=u1Nii3ui...

Post: Failed Attempts to Sell Land for 3 Years

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 have you called the company that did the report and asked what are concerns that someone may have? 

good idea - we will do so and see if anything comes up that we didn't discuss during our build.

back in the day when the tests were done, nothing was apparent from the engineers or tests themselves that indicated we couldn't build. i'm not sure what anybody else would find (if anything).

we are suspecting that most buyers thus far may think "wow, this sh*t just got real" when they see the reports and have a minor panic attack and back out. i'm trying see how i'd feel in their shoes. it's surprising how many folks do not research the ins and outs of the home building process before making an offer...

Post: Failed Attempts to Sell Land for 3 Years

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Quote from @Bill B.:

Yes, if you have zero desire to build or live there and can’t find a builder to partner with. I’d rather break even or even lose a little today than have that lender ask for a big pile of money in 15-16 months when the balloon comes due. (Plus the interest and heartache you’ll save.)

You could wait a few months until snow starts to melt, school’s about to let out and builders are getting ready to start going wild. But don’t wait until they’ve already found other deals and made other plans. 

good idea - and agreed; our most important goal is to get rid of the monthly payment!

Quote from @Lane Kawaoka:

I started with turnkey rentals when net worth was under 750K.

Then move to larger deals from there.


 i like the simplicity, thank you Lane!

Quote from @Account Closed:


Yes, you need to be trained, but that's part of the fun. It gives direction to have a plan. Plus it builds a portfolio rather quickly.

Ken - how do you find off-market properties? This is something a newbie needs to know. I don't know where to start. Sure, Google can tell me a million things, but personal insight from a peer is far more valuable.

Post: Failed Attempts to Sell Land for 3 Years

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Quote from @Bill B.:

Partner with a builder and split the final sales price based on value difference before and after the building

Lower the price enough to not lose the property when the balloon comes due?

Sell your current home and build on the land?

Build a new primary with the preferred financing and turn your old property in to a rental?

Put it on an auction site starting at your loan balance?

Option 1&2 are obviously easiest/quickest. Everything else is an attempt to lose less money. 


 Bill - can you explain this?

Lower the price enough to not lose the property when the balloon comes due?

I'm not sure what this means. Do you just mean lower the price over and over again until it sells before the "balloon bursts?"

Thanks for the other ideas. We pondered the builder idea.

Auction may be a last-ditch.

Our current primary home is in even a better location and a better house than we could've afforded to have built at the time. We don't want to move back to that area.

Thanks again.

Post: Failed Attempts to Sell Land for 3 Years

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Quote from @Chris Seveney:
Quote from @Bob S.:

@Russell Brazil - what can he do to screen the buyers better? Buyers have been presenting cash offers with proof of assets etc.

What else would you screen to prevent this from happening?


 Something seems off then and maybe what is in that report you may think is not a big deal but everyone else does. What was in the report that had people shying away?


 no idea, that's what puzzles me. either way, i'm inclined to keep the posting as-is and not offer the tests.

Post: Failed Attempts to Sell Land for 3 Years

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@Russell Brazil - what can he do to screen the buyers better? Buyers have been presenting cash offers with proof of assets etc.

What else would you screen to prevent this from happening?

Post: Failed Attempts to Sell Land for 3 Years

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@Chris Seveney - no development fees or special assessments.