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All Forum Posts by: Brady Hales

Brady Hales has started 0 posts and replied 46 times.

Post: Pace Morby Mentorship

Brady HalesPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Provo, UT
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 50
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Brady Hales:

@Nate Marshall @Jay Hinrichs

I gave an honest review. But I think no matter what I say here, it wont change your mind.


I did not say it was fake.. I just said if it was fake ? my position on this is if the course is 3k and you like it go for it.. its the up sell to the master class's for 20 to 30k most guru's end up hitting you up for and most folks dont have the ready cash and have to go into CC debt.. that I caution against and dont agree with.. Now talking about what they are teaching in the courses this stuff has been rehashed and repackaged for decades .. And for sure trying to make a business of loaning money for EMD to wholesalers to me simply is not a business model that many folks will ever really get any traction at or make any decent money.

 @Jay Hinrichs thank you for correcting me. I had misread the tone of your first message and the misunderstanding was definitely on my part. I appreciate your patience. When I purchased the mentorship they did try and upsell the mastermind class but I declined it. I have met a few people in the mentorship who have nothing but good to say about it but I just couldn't accept the price for it yet. I don't even have a profitable real estate business yet so why the upsell? Maybe if someone has the money already and are full time Real Estate professionals. But I am not even close to that yet, so I don't think the mastermind he does would be of any use to me yet.

Post: Pace Morby Mentorship

Brady HalesPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Provo, UT
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 50
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Brady Hales:

@Account Closed I apologize I didn't see your post earlier. I will be 100% honest with you. I am not paid by Pace Morby although that would be cool. I have 0 deals and have made $0. Just being honest with you. But I haven't put in any work other than listening to the videos. So it wouldn't really be fair to judge anybody's mentorship value based on my results whether it is paid or free because I haven't put in the work. If you look at one of my earlier posts I did encourage people to check out his free group before considering his mentorship. I am not here to sell his mentorship just give honest opinions. 

Thank you for your candor. Mechanical engineers are thinkers by nature, before  they act. It isn't surprising that you want to learn. (I'm surrounded by engineers in the family) Most have disbelief that I can do what I've done because it doesn't follow the accepted order of things. ;-)

It's when people who are desperate to make a meager amount more, living paycheck to paycheck, have no reserves, have no skills, don't understand real estate, and are told to use their credit cards to join but are not told about the fact that 90% never buy a property, that part seems to be hurting people, not helping them.

In fact, one of the other biggest issues is when Morby uses “Gator funding” or whatever it’s called to entice unsophisticated investors to take a third position on an overleveraged property so he can get into it without any of his own money. The unsophisticated investors are taking all of the risks. That won't end well.


I completely agree with you Mike. Although the Gator Funding Training is included in the training I purchased I haven't really got into it yet. I'm more interested in the longer term plays for wealth building. And if I was in an earlier phase of my life there is absolutely no way I would have purchased it. I think with all forms of education it is imperative to be discerning in your learning and not just blindly follow someone into a big mess. It's important to recognize your own limits with all the risks involved and not get into trouble by just following someone just cause they said to do it. So I 100% agree with you.

Post: Pace Morby Mentorship

Brady HalesPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Provo, UT
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 50

@Nate Marshall @Jay Hinrichs

I gave an honest review. But I think no matter what I say here, it wont change your mind.

Post: Pace Morby Mentorship

Brady HalesPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Provo, UT
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 50

@Account Closed I apologize I didn't see your post earlier. I will be 100% honest with you. I am not paid by Pace Morby although that would be cool. I have 0 deals and have made $0. Just being honest with you. But I haven't put in any work other than listening to the videos. So it wouldn't really be fair to judge anybody's mentorship value based on my results whether it is paid or free because I haven't put in the work. If you look at one of my earlier posts I did encourage people to check out his free group before considering his mentorship. I am not here to sell his mentorship just give honest opinions. 

I really like the education he provides and for my current situation in life I don't mind paying for education and implementing it over time as I see fit. I spent a whole lot less on his course than I did on my mechanical engineering degree and there were many classes I had to pay for in college that haven't actually advanced my pay potential at all. But the education of the degree was valuable nonetheless. 

So for right now I am happy with what I have received as I feel the education was worth the price. I wasn't so much concerned with making my money back super quick as I was about the actual learning.

Most people won't see it that way and that's totally fine. You may disagree with me on if his mentorship is worth any money and thats fine too. You and me are different. If you dont find his information valuable no worries. 

I really appreciate your opinions and concerns about it all though because it helps me further evaluate and articulate the value I see in his program. And a critical evaluation of others teaching is necessary to preserve and better the quality of the education itself. So your concerns and questions are really important to the investor community because they help others get a better picture on what they are receiving and I appreciate that.

His mentorship may not be for everyone just like a degree in mechanical engineering isnt for everyone. In my opinion the value of the education he and his community offer outweighs the price. But I hope everyone reading this post in the future and may be considering his mentorship take your comments into consideration because if others don't see the value in his mentorship it would be better for them upfront to understand that and find a mentor more similar to yourself in which they truly believe in and could be successful with.

Post: Is Subject to fraud?

Brady HalesPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Provo, UT
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 50

@Johnathan Cummings not fraud. It is line 503 on every closing HUD. You can take anything subject to. As stated, the lender has the right to call the loan due but not the obligation. There are plenty of ways you can protect yourself from due on sale clause.

You can have the seller put the property in a land trust and then assign it to you. You can do an executory contract like an agreement for sale where the deed is transferred to the buyers name but not recorded until the balance is paid off.

If done correctly, both of these prevent the bank from ever seeing in county records that the property was sold. You can also take title in your personal name or LLC but this way should only be done if the mortgage/lender is a big authority like chase, wells fargo, etc.

You also have to make sure you do the insurance correctly. Typically what I have seen a lot of people do is they add an additional policy with the seller as an additional insured and keep the original insurance for 3 - 6 months. After, 3 - 6 months they cancel the sellers original insurance policy and just keep the new one in place. This is done to reduce the likelihood of noticing the property was sold.

But you can take any loan subject to. Almost any lien no matter the position on the property can be taken subject to as it is on the HUD.

Post: Subject To Listings

Brady HalesPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Provo, UT
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 50

@Nathan Frost Creative Real Estate with Pace Morby on facebook have some if you are willing to pay an assignment fee. You can also market to pre-foreclosure situations or even expired listings with little-to-no equity. A lot of the information on these lists are free to little cost to pull them and start making phone calls.

Post: Is it insane to manage your own STR?

Brady HalesPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Provo, UT
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 50

@Kelly Cochran Tony Robinson from the real estate rookie podcast would be a great one to follow. I believe it was him where in one of his episodes he says it doesn't truly have to be 24/7. If there is a true emergency they should call 911 and you can deal with it in the morning. Also, so much of it can be automated nowadays. It is just trying to find those things to get automated. "The Real estate Robinsons" on YouTube would be good to follow. They have some great videos on this topic if memory serves me right;)

Post: Pace Morby Mentorship

Brady HalesPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Provo, UT
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 50

@Patty C. the mentorship is different. But there is no need to sign up for it yet. I would go to the boot camp. Get some of the basics down and then make posts in the facebook group "Creative Real Estate with Pace Morby". There are many of his students there that will team up with you for free to show you the ropes and help get your feet on the ground before you pay for the mentorship. That way you can know if it is right for you or not before buying;)

Also, Pace just published his bigger pockets book this last week. It is called Cash without Wealth. It is a great buy to begin understanding the topics he will go over;)

Post: Possible subto with a deceased borrower on loan. Can this be done?

Brady HalesPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Provo, UT
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 50
Quote from @Maximo Dejesus:
Quote from @Brady Hales:

@Maximo Dejesus

This is a good probate seller call example with some details in it.

https://youtu.be/IUPG5i4A2UU

I know a lot of people in the "Creative Real Estate with Pace Morby" that actually solely work doing sub-to with probate sellers. You might try there in addition to here on bigger pockets to increase your chances of talking to somebody who has done these types of deals and understands the deal process better.


 Thank you for your response Brady. Where would I go to find "Creative Real Estate with Pace Morby". Would that be on youtube? I will check to see if so.

Thank you for the link as well. Take care.


 Sorry. I thought I had included that. It is a facebook group with a lot of helpful people in it;) Pace also has a super helpful yputube channel that is a lot of fun to follow.

Post: Possible subto with a deceased borrower on loan. Can this be done?

Brady HalesPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Provo, UT
  • Posts 46
  • Votes 50

@Maximo Dejesus

This is a good probate seller call example with some details in it.

https://youtu.be/IUPG5i4A2UU

I know a lot of people in the "Creative Real Estate with Pace Morby" that actually solely work doing sub-to with probate sellers. You might try there in addition to here on bigger pockets to increase your chances of talking to somebody who has done these types of deals and understands the deal process better.

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