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All Forum Posts by: Bobby Valcin

Bobby Valcin has started 29 posts and replied 108 times.

Post: Cobb County GA basement rental

Bobby ValcinPosted
  • Investor
  • Austell, FL
  • Posts 110
  • Votes 19

@Tracy R. Sorry it took so long to reply. I'm glad you have a good outlook on it. Did they say what it would actually rent for at the REIA meeting? I would probably try to compare it to other remodeled one bedrooms in the area.

Post: Cobb County GA basement rental

Bobby ValcinPosted
  • Investor
  • Austell, FL
  • Posts 110
  • Votes 19

@Tracy R. I must say, I’m impressed. I may reach out to you to do my rehab! Did you do everything yourself?

Can you really rent a one bedroom for $1700? Have you had any inquires yet?

Post: $500 a month wholesaling budget

Bobby ValcinPosted
  • Investor
  • Austell, FL
  • Posts 110
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by @Greg Dickerson:
Originally posted by @Bobby Valcin:

I have roughly $500 to work with per month (including software) and I am looking to see what some knowledgable BP members might think would be the best of use of those funds. I'm also quite limited when it comes to time. My thoughts are as follows:


1) Hire a VA at about $10 an hour to work about 20-30 hours a month to do cold calling, send offers, follow-up, etc

2) Use Pat-Live or something similar to answer calls live when they come from direct mail marketing campaigns, callbacks from cold calling, etc.

3) purchase small focused lists like probates, evictions, delinquent taxes, etc. I also have a realtor that can get me just about whatever info I need from the MLS as well.

4) Prospective tools: Mojo Dialer, Freedomsoft, REIBlackbook or Propstream (recommendations on an all in one type of software would be very helpful), reiskip.com for skip tracing, Vumber.

The answering service will be about $20-$40 per month, plus the cost of each call. Total for the tools will be about $150 per month, the cost of the VA will be about $200 a month (20 hours). The remaining $100 or so would be spent on the lists. My business partner (the closer) will most likely be the one going on the appointments and I will be stepping in once the lead has been screened by the VA or the live answering service. I will also probably be doing a little bit of the VA's work since 5 hours a week may not cut it and doing some appointments.

This is all rough math and my numbers may be off. If you have any recommendations on some tweaks, better and/or cheaper tools, marketing ideas, etc, feel free to give feedback. Your time is much appreciated. I'm looking to get started sometime next month. 

You need to make sure you have buyers for the properties first. After that the First step is to set up a motivated seller website like Carrot. All your competition have them and people will go to look you up online first.
You can do a lot with SEO and PPC on google and YouTube. Direct mail is expensive so your budget will not get you very far there. Check out yellow letter hq for insight on direct mail.

Thanks, Greg. I actually do have some cash buyers on deck waiting for me to find some properties. My wife is going to help me with creating a website. I do agree that people will want to check me out online to make sure I'm legit. I do realize that I should be doing some online marketing as well. That is a whole different animal, however, once I get my first or second deal, I will probably start focusing on that more. 

Post: $500 a month wholesaling budget

Bobby ValcinPosted
  • Investor
  • Austell, FL
  • Posts 110
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by @Kase Knochenhauer:

@Bobby Valcin - congrats on embarking on this journey!

$500/month is totally doable to grow your business. However, it's not likely to go as far as you think.

I love that you are trying to use the $500/month to leverage your time. However, I'd wait to start leveraging until you get yourself and your business organized.

Here's my recommended steps:

1. Get a CRM --- find something that allows you to schedule followups, tag clients and send texts at a minimum. (Check out Podio, Liondesk, Follow Up Boss, and Chime) These platforms will be free to over $100/month.

2. Buy really good lists --- spend your money on the data before you start leveraging other peoples time. Lists are expensive and you will burn through them quickly. Enroll in Title Tool Kit or REBO Gateway so you can pull your lists anytime you need them. Cost of $1k+/year. 

3. Pay for A+ skip tracing --- you need the best data or your time is wasted. Skip tracing is not cheap and will quickly burn through your dough. Various providers will perform better for each list depending on where you pull it from and how it's formatted.

3. Leverage using technology (not people) first --- Find ways to leverage your time using programs and systems instead of people. Can you send bulk texts? Voicemails? post cards? etc. People cost a lot more.

4. Wait to hire answering service until you have proven lead flow --- With $500/month I would expect only a few inbound calls per month.

5. Keep $100/month for lunch money --- go to coffee or lunch with one investor per week for eternity. You'll gain much and get to eat food. It's a win-win.


Great feedback Kase. I appreciate you taking the time to provide that info. I think you are right. I need to see some results before I start offloading too many things.

I've decided to go with Podio Premium as my CRM which should address multiple technological needs. I do have to learn it or find a VA to set it up for me. It's tough to find a skip tracer that people are consistently happy with so I'll just have to try them out on my own.

On weekdays, I have about 30 minutes in the morning from about 7:15-7:45a (which may be too early) that I can do calls and about 45 minutes to an hour in the late afternoon (4:15p-5:15ish). Saturday would be the only day that I could focus on it for a few hours. I was thinking that amount of time would not be sufficient. Since people could call back at any given time, I thought it would be worth paying for the answering service (I think I saw one for about $20 a month). My understanding is that answering the phone calls live produces a higher percentage of deals closed. Even if it is just a few I think it is important that someone answers the phone. I am new to wholesaling so I am open to correction if you feel otherwise.

The lists are the thing that I'm a bit stuck on at the moment. One person says a site like List Source is great and the next person says it sucks. It has been hard for me to decipher, however, like with the skip tracing, I may have to just test some of them out. Based on previous threads concerning REBO Gateway, it looks like the results that people received were largely based on what part of the country the data was being pulled from. I'm planning to focus on Central Florida primarily.

Post: $500 a month wholesaling budget

Bobby ValcinPosted
  • Investor
  • Austell, FL
  • Posts 110
  • Votes 19

I have roughly $500 to work with per month (including software) and I am looking to see what some knowledgable BP members might think would be the best of use of those funds. I'm also quite limited when it comes to time. My thoughts are as follows:


1) Hire a VA at about $10 an hour to work about 20-30 hours a month to do cold calling, send offers, follow-up, etc

2) Use Pat-Live or something similar to answer calls live when they come from direct mail marketing campaigns, callbacks from cold calling, etc.

3) purchase small focused lists like probates, evictions, delinquent taxes, etc. I also have a realtor that can get me just about whatever info I need from the MLS as well.

4) Prospective tools: Mojo Dialer, Freedomsoft, REIBlackbook or Propstream (recommendations on an all in one type of software would be very helpful), reiskip.com for skip tracing, Vumber.

The answering service will be about $20-$40 per month, plus the cost of each call. Total for the tools will be about $150 per month, the cost of the VA will be about $200 a month (20 hours). The remaining $100 or so would be spent on the lists. My business partner (the closer) will most likely be the one going on the appointments and I will be stepping in once the lead has been screened by the VA or the live answering service. I will also probably be doing a little bit of the VA's work since 5 hours a week may not cut it and doing some appointments.

This is all rough math and my numbers may be off. If you have any recommendations on some tweaks, better and/or cheaper tools, marketing ideas, etc, feel free to give feedback. Your time is much appreciated. I'm looking to get started sometime next month. 

Post: Cobb County GA basement rental

Bobby ValcinPosted
  • Investor
  • Austell, FL
  • Posts 110
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by @Tracy R.:

@Bobby Valcin, renovations are done!  I just have a few more little touches to do and then I'm going to activate it through Cozy.co in January.  

I've never used Cozy.co before, but it sounds like a lot of the investors in the area use it to list their properties, screen tenants, collect rents, etc.  It's free for landlords to use.  Here's a link to the listing so far (I just put in $1,000 rent as a placeholder, I believe it would rent for a lot more than that, but I'm honestly not sure how much, I am going to ask some other landlords in the area before I activate it)  https://home.cozy.co/apply/#!/...    let me know if you can see this, it's the first time I've tried to "share" it.

Tracy, I'm glad the project is close to 100%. $1000 in rent sounds great for a one-bedroom (i'm assuming it's a one-bedroom). When I clicked the link it said 'Sorry, this listing is no longer active on Cozy'.

Post: Is driving for dollars the best for leads?

Bobby ValcinPosted
  • Investor
  • Austell, FL
  • Posts 110
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by @David Lecko:

@Bobby Valcin you can spend your time, or you can spend your money.

Large investors spend $30,000 per month on bulk mail. It's easy do to when you have the money.

Beginner investors often drive for dollars and door knock. It's easier to do when you don't have the money but you do have time.

Time is a huge advantage because large investors are operating at such a high volume, they do not follow up on time-consuming activities like skip tracing a piece of returned mail. If you go the extra mile, you will find gems that nobody else will.

David, you are absolutely right. The more I look into wholesaling the more I realize that much of it is striking a balance between automating and legwork.

Post: Cobb County GA basement rental

Bobby ValcinPosted
  • Investor
  • Austell, FL
  • Posts 110
  • Votes 19

@Tracy R. Thank you, Tracy. Very helpful. I will definitely need to make another call to confirm.

How are things progressing with the work on the house?

Post: Is driving for dollars the best for leads?

Bobby ValcinPosted
  • Investor
  • Austell, FL
  • Posts 110
  • Votes 19

Sounds intriguing, especially the part about spending time on pricing and sending offers. I will be in touch.

Post: Is driving for dollars the best for leads?

Bobby ValcinPosted
  • Investor
  • Austell, FL
  • Posts 110
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by @Jerryll Noorden:
Originally posted by @Bobby Valcin:

@Jerryll Noorden Thanks for chiming in. It sounds like what you are basically saying is I should be making leads come to me (marketing) , and not speculating on ‘leads’ that may not be actual leads.

I think I got it. As a matter of facts, all of the posts here are making me reorient my thinking a bit. I started looking into some marketing options over the last couple of days.

I appreciate all of your time and feedback.

 Most people get pissed of when I flat out tell them their systems suck (when it is not opinion and I have proof it sucks). ONLY a few say "Hey this douche makes sense. I don't like him but he has a point. He has data and the numbers that show this.". Those people are the thinkers. They stand on their own 2 feet. They absorb info, and PROCESS it and then make an educated decision.

You my man will make it big. Not many out there like you.

Think EVERYTHING through. Even the stuff I say. In the end, i is YOU that need to be convinced. If you blindly listen to others, it is YOUR fault if you fault. NOT their fault!

So good on you brother!

I like your excentricity, Jerryll. Thanks for the encouragement.