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All Forum Posts by: Calvin Thomas

Calvin Thomas has started 37 posts and replied 777 times.

Post: Do the pros really pay 0 in taxes?

Calvin ThomasPosted
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  • New York City, NY
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Quote from @David Matthews:

Hi all - Dave Matthews here. I've got two properties now, townhome and single family, both rented. This will be my first year where I will be reporting ALL the rental income (some 60k or so). My question to you all is how in the world do folks deduct deduct deduct so that their tax burden on rental income is zero or close to it? I am worried that I will owe big in 2026... 


Love your music by the way ;'p


Not necessarily.  You have min. state taxes that you cannot get around (some states, not all NY/NJ/CT).  You also has FICA and the dreaded AMT.  However, in theory, if your expenses are more than your income, then you'd be able to, on paper, lose money and not have to worry about too many taxes.  You need a good CPA who knows a lot about real estate.  This isn't really possible unless you have a lot of properties or several expensive properties.

Post: Do the pros really pay 0 in taxes?

Calvin ThomasPosted
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Quote from @Chris Seveney:
Quote from @David Matthews:

Hi all - Dave Matthews here. I've got two properties now, townhome and single family, both rented. This will be my first year where I will be reporting ALL the rental income (some 60k or so). My question to you all is how in the world do folks deduct deduct deduct so that their tax burden on rental income is zero or close to it? I am worried that I will owe big in 2026... 


 Just remember its not that they are not paying taxes - its they are deferring them.

As an example (not a CPA), lets say you have $10,000 in income and you depreciate your property by $10,000 - your net gain is zero BUT your cost basis (lets say you paid $250,000 for the property) is now $240,000. So if you sell it for $300,000 - the property now has a $60k gain (not $50k). Hope that makes some sense.

You can 1031 to defer it but a 1031 is typically done by institutional investors and its rare for individuals to do it.


We do it all the time.  When it's left to my children, it's a step up basis for taxes. I have properties I've 1031'd for decades.  Makes a lot of sense and more people should look into it. 

Post: Lender Points too high?

Calvin ThomasPosted
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Hi Josiah! Is there a reason you're taking your investment property to a conventional loan? Wouldn't you prefer to put your investments in an LLC for further protection?

You can do a conventional loan and transfer to an LLC after closing on an investment property.

 Only if the lender allows this, if not, it can trigger a due on sale clause.


 If it’s a Fannie, Freddie or FHLB loan it is allowed by those agencies

You are mistaken.  We have several that are backed by the feds, and they are not allowed to be transferred without approval.  Non-small balance loans.


Conventional loans allow properties to be transferred to an LLC after the loan has funded if certain requirements are met. The borrower must remain on the note and mortgage, but the Title can be transferred to an LLC, LP, or certain trusts so long as the majority owner/controller of the entity is the borrower. Conventional does not allow entities to be the borrower, so you cannot fund a new loan while the entity holds Title. That being said, I remember this only applying to loans made after 2016 or something like that.

Govt loans (FHA, VA, USDA, loans that are modded/distressed where the govt has an interest) cannot.


 Again, this depends on the loan.  But what do I know.  I've only been doing this 40+ years.


https://servicing-guide.fanniemae.com/svc/d1-4.1-02/allowabl...


Depends on the loan.

Post: Raising Cash for Down Payments

Calvin ThomasPosted
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  • New York City, NY
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Quote from @Dominic Mazzarella:
Quote from @Arnold Caceres:

Hello BP,

I am in search for a rental property and have 2 bank pre-approval letters for the funding. However, I'm afraid I'll fall short in cash to close and for the 15-20% down payment the bank requires.

What are some strategies you use to raise cash for down payments without having to dilute my ownership? 
thanks 


You've got options here, especially if you're trying to avoid giving up equity. If you've got strong credit and income, a personal loan or HELOC (if you own other real estate) might be the simplest solution. Also drawing from a retirement account like a 401k, or using credit card balance transfers strategically just to bridge the gap, though that takes discipline.

If you’ve got a friend or family member who believes in what you’re doing, a short-term private loan with interest could work too, without diluting ownership. Just make sure it’s all documented to keep it clean.

Some of the comments in this post are interesting. I wouldn’t lose heart just because folks on here tell you you need to save more or get a better job. What you might need is just a bit of creativity. 


 So you want him to go into more debt upon debt so he builds a glass house of debt which will collapse and cause massive financial failure due to the sheer amount of debt that is being financed?  

This is a joke. Right?

Post: Raising Cash for Down Payments

Calvin ThomasPosted
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  • New York City, NY
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Quote from @Arnold Caceres:

Hello BP,

I am in search for a rental property and have 2 bank pre-approval letters for the funding. However, I'm afraid I'll fall short in cash to close and for the 15-20% down payment the bank requires.

What are some strategies you use to raise cash for down payments without having to dilute my ownership? 
thanks 


 You cannot afford it.  Wait and proceed when you have the funds.  You can also take on a partner, but that comes with other BS risks.

Post: Lender Points too high?

Calvin ThomasPosted
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  • New York City, NY
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Quote from @Patrick Roberts:
Quote from @Calvin Thomas:
Quote from @Jeff Chisum:
Quote from @Calvin Thomas:
Quote from @Jeff Chisum:
Quote from @Katie Smith:

Hi Josiah! Is there a reason you're taking your investment property to a conventional loan? Wouldn't you prefer to put your investments in an LLC for further protection?

You can do a conventional loan and transfer to an LLC after closing on an investment property.

 Only if the lender allows this, if not, it can trigger a due on sale clause.


 If it’s a Fannie, Freddie or FHLB loan it is allowed by those agencies

You are mistaken.  We have several that are backed by the feds, and they are not allowed to be transferred without approval.  Non-small balance loans.


Conventional loans allow properties to be transferred to an LLC after the loan has funded if certain requirements are met. The borrower must remain on the note and mortgage, but the Title can be transferred to an LLC, LP, or certain trusts so long as the majority owner/controller of the entity is the borrower. Conventional does not allow entities to be the borrower, so you cannot fund a new loan while the entity holds Title. That being said, I remember this only applying to loans made after 2016 or something like that.

Govt loans (FHA, VA, USDA, loans that are modded/distressed where the govt has an interest) cannot.


 Again, this depends on the loan.  But what do I know.  I've only been doing this 40+ years.

Post: Lender Points too high?

Calvin ThomasPosted
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  • New York City, NY
  • Posts 812
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Quote from @Josiah Guyer:
Quote from @Calvin Thomas:
Quote from @Josiah Guyer:

Hey all, I have not closed a conventional mortgage for investment purposes before. I currently have a deal under contract and am working with a lender. I used this lender before for my personal residence and was pleased with them but currently they are wanting to charge me 7K in fees on top of closing costs. I have a duplex under contract for 215K, 25% down (54k), closing is 7K, and lender points and fees are 7k for a total of $68,000. Interest rate is around 7.125%.

Do these fees seem unusually high or am I just out of touch with current lending costs? Any thoughts appreciated.

Thanks


That's crazy.  Find a new lender.  What's your DTI and FICO?

 FICO is 767 not sure what my dti is. 


To calculate your debt-to-income (DTI) ratio, add up all your monthly debt payments and divide that total by your gross monthly income (income before taxes). Multiply the result by 100 to express it as a percentage. You should request what they consider your DTI ratio is. It could be incorrect.

Post: Lender Points too high?

Calvin ThomasPosted
  • Developer
  • New York City, NY
  • Posts 812
  • Votes 711
Quote from @Jeff Chisum:
Quote from @Calvin Thomas:
Quote from @Jeff Chisum:
Quote from @Katie Smith:

Hi Josiah! Is there a reason you're taking your investment property to a conventional loan? Wouldn't you prefer to put your investments in an LLC for further protection?

You can do a conventional loan and transfer to an LLC after closing on an investment property.

 Only if the lender allows this, if not, it can trigger a due on sale clause.


 If it’s a Fannie, Freddie or FHLB loan it is allowed by those agencies

You are mistaken.  We have several that are backed by the feds, and they are not allowed to be transferred without approval.  Non-small balance loans.

Post: Lender Points too high?

Calvin ThomasPosted
  • Developer
  • New York City, NY
  • Posts 812
  • Votes 711
Quote from @Jeff Chisum:
Quote from @Katie Smith:

Hi Josiah! Is there a reason you're taking your investment property to a conventional loan? Wouldn't you prefer to put your investments in an LLC for further protection?

You can do a conventional loan and transfer to an LLC after closing on an investment property.

 Only if the lender allows this, if not, it can trigger a due on sale clause.

Post: Lender Points too high?

Calvin ThomasPosted
  • Developer
  • New York City, NY
  • Posts 812
  • Votes 711
Quote from @Josiah Guyer:

Hey all, I have not closed a conventional mortgage for investment purposes before. I currently have a deal under contract and am working with a lender. I used this lender before for my personal residence and was pleased with them but currently they are wanting to charge me 7K in fees on top of closing costs. I have a duplex under contract for 215K, 25% down (54k), closing is 7K, and lender points and fees are 7k for a total of $68,000. Interest rate is around 7.125%.

Do these fees seem unusually high or am I just out of touch with current lending costs? Any thoughts appreciated.

Thanks


That's crazy.  Find a new lender.  What's your DTI and FICO?