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All Forum Posts by: Chris Williams

Chris Williams has started 9 posts and replied 97 times.

Quote from @Angela Hudson:

This is helpful. Thank you!


 No problem. It would be better for you to partnter with someone who is more experienced. DO NOT PARTNER with someone on your level. A newbie with a newbie is a boiling pot of disasters waiting to happen. Use this partnership as I way to learn how to crawl in the house flipping business. Use this partnership to ask questions and talk strategy about where you want to end up in the future as an investor. Making money is a team sport. 

Post: Cold Calling Preforeclosures

Chris WilliamsPosted
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Quote from @Reina Phee:

Feeling pretty discouraged when cold-calling people who are in preforeclosure. Most of the time they don't answer, and everyone who does answer isn't interested in selling. So far I've dialed about 126 numbers, and I'm wondering for people who have found success, how many calls did it take to get that first "yes"?


 I gave up on preforeclosures years ago. I have good friends who call them and market to them, but preforeclosures are really tiring. In my experience, it is either they don't care, they don't want to talk or they are super aggresive. I tried to buy a preforeclosure on the market a few years back and the seller ghosted their real estate agent to the point that they cancelled the listing. A lot of people just have a lot of shame and denial, so I will be marketing to expired listings in the future. Can you make money on preforeclosures? Absolutely. I have friends hitting good metrics doing it just be prepared to do a lot of hand holding. 

Post: Analysis paralysis...need help!

Chris WilliamsPosted
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Quote from @Jake Andronico:

@Herminia Ojeda

You're not alone. Congrats on making some money from your sale! 

At the end of the day, RE investing just isn't purely about numbers. A lot say that, but it's just not true in my experience. 

People buy investment properties for all types of different reasons in all different types of areas that all have pros and cons. 

I would highly suggest getting into a market you at least somewhat know, are comfortable with, and/or have some sort of tie to. 

If you can house hack, that's an awesome way to start with some of the lowest risk in my opinion. 

I've house hacked twice in the Reno, NV area and it's changed my life. 

Also, you may find out that you don't like being a landlord, and that's OK. This business is not for everyone. 

Don't try to hit a homerun, but learn how to consistently hit singles and doubles that stack up overtime. 

It's a long game. 

Best of luck to you! 


 I appreciate you reminding me that it is a long game. I get caught up on that sometimes. 

Post: Best way to use OPM for first investment

Chris WilliamsPosted
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Quote from @Rabia Khan:

what’s the best way to use OPM to buy my first house to rent out?


A lender usually a DSCR loan from a hard money lender. I wouldn't partner with anyone privately on a rental property. Most people don't want to hold their note for 30 years outside of a lender. You could do it and have a clause where you refi them out in a few years, but nobody knows the future. That means you might have a refi clause but not have enough equity to refinance.

Partner with people in your market. I would build a relationship with the person before you decide to partner. Money changes who and what people want and are. I would also be as transparent as possible. If it isn't in writing it never happened. Make sure you and your partner talk worse case scenario. In terms of structuring the deal you can do it however you want as long as it is legal, ethical and agreed upon by both parties. Normally a lot of people will just flip a property and split the profits 50/50 but even tasks can be split. For example one person could manage paperwork and another person could be boots on the ground. Sorry if this is long winded I just wanted to provide a decent chunk of information 

Quote from @Chris Seveney:
Quote from @Timothy Vang:

I have no job, bad credit and no savings. Can someone help me find a deal and a lender that will loan 100% LTV? If not 100%, can I get a loan for the down payment?


 do not forget - can I borrow for the closing costs as well? I just took a course that says you can do this!


 I once had a guru say that people who use their own money in real estate are lazy. I laughed and stopped listening to the guru when I realized that you can't just tell people that their money is secured by real estate and that in 2nd position they will ALWAYS get paid. I don't know I have a soul. I need to sleep at night. I have a reputation. I don't think I should have to run business ducking lender payments and using sneaky language. Will I never use a lender whether that be hard money or private money? I will use hard money and private money but always borrow the money responsibly and under that every deal carries risks and there are no guranteed returns. 

Quote from @Timothy Vang:

I have no job, bad credit and no savings. Can someone help me find a deal and a lender that will loan 100% LTV? If not 100%, can I get a loan for the down payment?


 Haha also don't forget that I need 5% interest and I want all interest moved to when I sell the property to keep my holding costs down. 

Post: Real Estate Myths

Chris WilliamsPosted
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Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:

That you can make a ton of money with no money and by wholesaling  total myth. 


 Yes I fell into this trap. Gurus make a great living on selling and cashing out on pipe dreams that newer investors have. I am glad that I am starting to actually look to operate an actual business since I am focused on saving up start up capital. 

Post: The New Forum Trend of Fragility and Trolling

Chris WilliamsPosted
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Quote from @Jonathan Greene:

The forums here are always a mixed bag, but recent occurrences have unveiled a new low in trolling.

It's commenting on comments and then attempting to gaslight.

Multiple times now, someone has commented on either a post of mine or a comment of mine that was not directed at them. They either quoted or tagged me to start something, and then when I responded to them, they tried to gaslight me as if I was the one who sought them out. It's hugely trolly, weird, and borderline sociopathic.

Healthy disagreements are fine in forums, but when you initiate the conversation, you can't later hide from it and make it like someone else started it when the entire dialogue is right above.

A lot of this has to do with personal fragility and internet puffery.

At one point, I invited two trolls to hop on a recorded (for everyone's sake) Zoom to discuss what they were up in arms about. They both took that as a threat. Huh? People love to talk it up on an Internet board but will never hop on a live or recorded call that would be broadcast to the same people they are trying to impress. Shocker.


 I find this to be the case as well. It seems like some people are here to start arguments and not here to learn. I have been looking to learn more and more each and every day I am on here. I love the idea of BP. It is like a Facebook type app for real estate investors. 

Post: Hiring Employees in the future

Chris WilliamsPosted
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For those who have employees what was that experience like? How did you go about interviewing, hiring, training and managing them? I am looking into hiring a boots on the ground for real estate as well as a lead manager for follow ups. 

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