All Forum Posts by: Chris Watkins
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Post: Basic Interior Rehab Estimate, Oregon
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- Eugene, OR
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Quote from @Travis Wiggins:
I am considering purchasing a triplex in Klamath Falls, Oregon. What is a good starting place for an estimate to completely overhaul the interior of each 900 sq ft 3br/1ba unit as current tenants move out?
Full new paint, new flooring (vinyl plank vs carpet), new cabinets, countertops, fixtures, sinks, tubs, lighting, basic rental grade appliances, etc. I am looking for clean and rent ready finishes, not luxury or custom. Kitchen spaces are simple galley layout. Bathrooms will take normal size tub/shower and smaller single vanity.
I will do the demo of current finishes myself and likely hire out much of the installation of the new finishes listed above.
I know this is a broad question, but are we talking 20K a unit? 40K? More?
Those that have done this please feel free to drop some knowledge!
Travis
If I'm GC'ing the project and paying subs, I usually pencil $50/sf for cosmetic rehab, $75/sf for medium rehab and $100/sf for full gut as a starting point. If the deal pencils at those amounts, I'll do a deeper dive on budget. These are Eugene prices, but not dissimilar from K-Falls.
Post: 1st Milestone achieved in 1 year.
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- Eugene, OR
- Posts 209
- Votes 138
Quote from @Jarrod Ochsenbein:
It should be relatively stable. I only have 7 months of data, but other hosts say Padsplit tries to at least keep everyone as close to 80% as possible. I have been in the 70% range before. I have a W2 and other investment income, so it isn't like I am dependent on it, but just a cool milestone in the back of my mind.
That's great! Good to hear positive PadSplit stories.
Post: 1st Milestone achieved in 1 year.
- Lender
- Eugene, OR
- Posts 209
- Votes 138
Nice work! Is that income seasonal or long-term stable?
Post: Sell or Hold 1 year old Rental for 50k profit?
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- Eugene, OR
- Posts 209
- Votes 138
Hey Tyler,
As you know, cash flow is dwarfed by appreciation in Bend. If you're looking to buy again in the area, that's a wash when comparing properties. Transaction costs of selling, then buying will mean a hit to the equity that you have, plus a likely tax hit. The only way I would see it benefiting you to sell would be if you can step up your equity again with another value-add property to force appreciation or leveraging a more valuable property. It really depends on what you want your portfolio to look like, and whether this is an easy renter that will continue to increase in profit as the years go on.
Chris
Post: Should I invest in another property?
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- Eugene, OR
- Posts 209
- Votes 138
Hey Manuel, welcome to the forums! Where in Oregon is this home?
FHA and 3-4 unit properties don't mix in Oregon, as most don't meet the FHA's self-sufficiency test (75% of rents cover your entire payment). Conventional loans can do a 2-4 unit with 5% down. VA can do multifamily as long as you are living there as well, but there are some other restrictions. Did you purchase your current home with a VA loan?
Post: How do you find an investor with experience in ground up development
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- Eugene, OR
- Posts 209
- Votes 138
Quote from @Dennis O'Loughlin:
Quote from @Chris Watkins:
Quote from @Dennis O'Loughlin:
Quote from @William Hutch:
Where are you located? I have lots of ground up experience as an architect in NYC.
A little further West...Oregon.
Where are you in Oregon? There are several investor meet-ups across the state where you can meet someone with the experience and willingness to help foster your development idea (or at least connect you to someone who can).
The Salem area.
Salem has a great investors group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/salemre/?ref=share&mibex...
You can also reach out to @Lawrence Potts and he can connect you to folks in the area.
Post: How do you find an investor with experience in ground up development
- Lender
- Eugene, OR
- Posts 209
- Votes 138
Quote from @Dennis O'Loughlin:
Quote from @William Hutch:
Where are you located? I have lots of ground up experience as an architect in NYC.
A little further West...Oregon.
Where are you in Oregon? There are several investor meet-ups across the state where you can meet someone with the experience and willingness to help foster your development idea (or at least connect you to someone who can).
Post: Washington state Land and Manufactured home purchase
- Lender
- Eugene, OR
- Posts 209
- Votes 138
Hi Kalin!
I reached out via email as well, but the short answer is that a hard/private lender will be the easiest way if you want to buy and develop both lots at once, in one transaction. Then you can refi into a DSCR once the construction is complete. If you're 1.1M into the project at that point, $8k in rents will yield a DSCR potentially below 1.0 which would limit your loan options. I'm happy to help run numbers if that would be helpful or connect you to a hard money lender. I can help with the DSCR on the back-end, but you'll want to be sure that you've got your exit strategy nailed down before the initial purchase.
Post: Vacation home (STR) Lender referrals
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- Eugene, OR
- Posts 209
- Votes 138
@Leah Smith DSCR that allows STR income is likely your best bet. Rates right now will be around that 8% figure depending on LTV, credit score, etc... With 30YF full-doc loans still at 7%, 8% isn't bad at all.
Reach out if you want more info!
Post: Do you use software to track property rehabs?
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- Eugene, OR
- Posts 209
- Votes 138
Does QBO have a good solution for automating the data input (reveipts/invoices) and categorization?



