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Post: multi family deal for 5 or more units

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Originally posted by @Gp G.:
how to find local brokers? Are brokers same as realtors? I work with some realtors they are not specialized in multi family? How to find multi family specialized brokers/realtors? how to build relationships with brokers? please advise
Different states use the term "broker" and "agent" interchangeably. In state of Virginia you are first a sales person, and then after 3 yrs or so, you can take broker exam and become a broker. Then you can have other salespersons work for you. State of Georgia might do it differently. You need a local guy to advise you..
How to build relationships is a little silly to ask.. How do you think? Open your mouth and talk to people. That's how.. Meet people at local REIs. Tell them about you interests. Ask them if they know someone, who knows someone.. Realtors know other realtors, who might know someone who is in commercial real estate.. Lenders know brokers/relators.. Do you have a lender? Do you have a Title Company you work with.. Geez.. Do you have a home inspector.. A plumber.. A handyman dude... Talk to them.. Talk.. Talk... Talk.. Talk to everyone.. Good enough?
Look at ad postings/listings.. Call those realtors up.. Ask them if they have properties.. I bet if you make 100 phone calls you will definitely find something you can work with..
Being a software programmer you write code, right? This is easier than that. But you gotta do what? Open your mouth and talk..
Go have coffee with some people. You pay... People like it... Sometimes let them pay.. People like that also. Next time get more people for coffee.. Order pizza.. Go to happy hour.. Make friends.. It's fun.
Post: Electronic rent payment vendors - eRentPayment or alternatives

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Originally posted by @Jackie Hung:
Hi, I am currently using eRentPayment. I have just leased to a new tenant and this is a tech guy but he was having a hard time getting it set up. I am partly to blame as I didn't send him the email template that I got 2 years ago when I set up with the first tenant (who would remember something from 2 years ago!). I simply use the eRentPayment link to send the instruction but apparently he needed a renter code. I have to ask their customer services.
Pros: (1) once it is set up, it is pretty much all automated. (2) email customer service is usually pretty quick turnaround within 1 day. (3) $3.00/transaction is pretty reasonable for 1 property
Cons: (1) can be hard to set up for tenant because you need to remember to send them a renter code (2) takes 7 days to get the deposit in the bank (3) no phone support, email only.
I'm wondering if anyone else use a different vendor. Note: Zelle is not an option for high rent payment. Zelle caps the very first time between two parties at $250 and subsequent transactions max at $2500.
I saw someone else posted about Cozy reversing rent. I have not run into problem but keeping that in mind as well.
Zelle is primitive in its offering compared to Venmo. Venmo, unlike Zelle, is a standalone app, and you can add multiple banks as receivers and multiple as sender. I have currently 3 banks added, and use it for my real estate as well as personal expenses. One of my rentals is $2500 townhouse, and I can use Venmo just fine.
I used to use erentpayment, but I don't see the point in paying $3.00 fee per transaction. It can add up quickly if you have multiple doors.
Post: Reason People use Property Management Companies

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Originally posted by @John Underwood:
Reapectfully,
I have systems in place and people/companies that I can depend on when something needs repaired. My tenants text me, I text somebody else. It takes less than a minute to deal with a problem. I know I am getting great prices from my handyman, contractor and HVAC people with no markup.
I keep the management fee which goes straight to my bottom line.
If I have to rerent a place I dont have to give up a months rent to a PM in addition to the 10% they are already getting. The 10% is off my gross not net.
No one will get a new tenant in faster than me. I often have someone waiting to move in a few days after a move out so that I don't loose more money.
Most of my tenants stay for many years so I don't need money being siphoned off before I get it for doing next to no work.
I train my tenants to pay on time or their will be co sequences so I have very few issues with this.
My tenants all pay the rent via a couple different methods so I get it right away and I don't have to wait for a PM to send me my money minus their fee. I do not chase rent.
I take care of my tenants and my properties. I fix problems for them fast and they in return take care of me by paying the rent on time.
My systems and up front tenant training allow me to run my empire with very little of my time.
Are your properties local.. Very doable if they are local, but you need boots on the ground for properties outside of your immediate area. One of the reasons why I will never invest out of state anymore... PMs are crooks..
Post: multi family deal for 5 or more units

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Originally posted by @Gp G.:
with my full time job as software engineer it is like next to impossible to find a good deal that makes sense in all aspects
Baltimore City was just an example to prove a point. I feel your pain.. I have a full time job as well. It's hard.. No doubt.. I would say try and find deals in your area. Georgia is a good landlord friendly state. You can stay local. Work with local brokers to see if they can get you some deals. Relationships are key.
Post: multi family deal for 5 or more units

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You can get great numbers on paper in say Baltimore city, but are you OK with that area? Have you ever been to inner cities where drug dealing and crime are rampant. You might want to rethink your stance when you say that you are open to ANY location as long a numbers make sense..
You should really start out with the location first, and then see what you can buy with the budget you have. As far as getting the deals you can get them through BP Marketplace, MLS, your own marketing, relationships with banks and brokers, auctions...
Post: Long term investing....Real...... Long term

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@Gregory DeRosso and @Lauren Kormylo - Both of you are spot on and I had advised him the same. We will see if this post and responses from y'all helps him at all to change his mind. Just in my DMV area I have seen once that were Class A pockets go to Class C and ones that were Class C have now become Class A (thanks to gentrification) in last 20 yrs that I have been living in this area.
BTW - He wasn't thinking of buying $350K house.. He is too cheap for that LOL.. More like a $100K condo.. $125K max
@Bevla Reeves - TK is Turnkey. It is a model where the operator buys junk properties in decent neighborhoods, and rehabs them and sells them to either newbie or out of state investors with tenants in place. This model is typically used in Indianapolis, Kansas, Cleveland... usually in midwest.
Post: Long term investing....Real...... Long term

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Originally posted by @Shadonna N.:
Definitely a smart move. Have someone pay for the home you plan to move into. In 30 years there will be repairs/upgrades needed. He needs to come up with a strategy to cover that work.
I believe his strategy is to buy a condo unit so he is only responsible for the inside.
Post: Long term investing....Real...... Long term

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Happy Fourth of July everyone !
So the other day, a friend of mine came up to me. He knows that I am real estate investor and realtor, and he always likes to pick my brain over this and that....usually something very silly.
But this one was good, and it got me thinking. So this friend of mine is in his late 30s, and has another 30 yrs of career left ahead of him before he wants to retire. He lives on the east coast in the DC area, and plans to retire out in the Phoenix, AZ area as he has lot of friends and family on the west coast.
So he wants to buy a property in Phoenix area which can be rented out, for another 25-30 yrs before he retires and can be his retirement home.
I suggested him a TK model in parts of the country where TK business is a viable business model, but as far as I know there aren't any TK providers in Phoenix. Secondly, a lot can change in a given area when we are talking about 30 yr time frame. Even in Northern VA (where I am) areas have changed drastically in 30 yrs. The time frame is the major drawback in his analysis. Additionally, I suggested that he might not make a whole of profit, to which he responded that as long as he breaks even, he is happy.
The positives in his analysis, is that since the pouring of California residents and retirees in the AZ market, it seems lot of people are bullish on AZ (especially Phoenix), so as long as the demand keeps going up, he can buy the property relatively cheaper.
Has anyone done this kind of investment?
Post: Tenant paid previous property manager

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Originally posted by @Keaton M.:
I just bought a fourplex and we closed around the 20th of last month. I sent an introduction email and notice that online payments are changing. Now rents are due and the tenant said they paid the previous property manager before seeing my message and their payments were set up on automatic bill pay.
My question is how do I recover the money from the other manager and what can I do to get them to hustle. I've already called and emailed, but havent gotten a response. It's also July 3rd so they'll probably drag their feet for the holiday weekend. I've also instructed the tenants to contact the manager as well.
Thanks for any input.
Is this your first purchase? Congrats if that's the case.
What you need to do is have some patience and reach out to the old PM. If you are local you can even drive to their office. Due to 4th of July weekend, I would wait until Monday.
Going forward, you need to have in writing that any money that the old PM collects after the sale of the property will be diverted to you (new owner), and make it a part of the contract.
If the tenant honestly paid, don't evict the poor tenant.. Sort it out. Put yourself in his shoes, and imagine that if you had made an honest mistake, do you want to be treated like that.. Is there any receipt that the tenant can provide you as a proof of the payment?
Post: Tenant paid previous property manager

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Originally posted by @Andrew B.:
Provide tenant with a 5 day notice to pay or quit. You provided the necessary notice, it should be up to him to do the leg work.
Trigger happy much?