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All Forum Posts by: Collin Hays

Collin Hays has started 119 posts and replied 2498 times.

Post: Is this a good location or will I be struggling

Collin Hays
#2 Short-Term & Vacation Rental Discussions Contributor
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  • Gatlinburg, TN
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Luckily, the intelligence you are seeking is quite easy to find! The quickest, most accurate answer to your question is a 1 hour review of similar properties around you on VRBO.  Look at the rates and the calendars, and you will get a good sense of what properties are doing.  Opinions on here aren't worth $.02, because each market is so unique.

Post: Are some people jinx's?

Collin Hays
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I know a lady who divorced her husband and she kept getting remarried, but her new husbands would catch some dread disease and die.  ALS, heart attack, cancer.  I think she went through three.  She had a hard time remarrying after that!  God rest her soul.

Post: It's Time To Raise The Rates

Collin Hays
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Funny story (although a bit off topic) I found my very first STR in the Smokies in mid 2005 on VRBO. I emailed them and asked if they wanted to sell. Timing is everything. We own and manage a number of rentals, but VRBO has always been a "must have" for listings. Never ventured into Airbnb, but I understand they bring a lot of value, too.

We never intended to be one of those dastardly management companies that you mentioned; it just morphed into that.  I had a neighbor out there who was tired of self managing and asked me to manage his, and we did.  Next thing you know we had 10 properties pretty much unsolicited, then 20, then 30.  We've kind of capped things at 30.  This is a family business operated by real families out there and isn't my primary source of income.  I just write the checks and my folks do an incredible job!  Our goal is just to do a good job for people that don't want to screw with self management and charge them a fair price.

Post: AirBnB changing their COVID-19 policy?

Collin Hays
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I think the COVID excuse has run its course.  It's been a known risk for quite a while now.  Anyone cancelling now due to COVID is busting your chops.

Post: Increase in occupancy for vacation cabins?

Collin Hays
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If you look at real estate closings in the Gatlinburg, TN area over the last 30 days, there are more than a few getting good answers from their magic 8-ball. However, I don't think Orlando or Cancun are good STR plays right now.

Post: Short-term Rental / AirBNB - How are you doing?

Collin Hays
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Originally posted by @Michael Baum:

Just an FYI on how long the coronavirus lives on surfaces. It can "live" up to 72 hours on some surfaces, but that is a bit misleading.

It is considered present no matter how much of the virus is left. As little as .1% is detectable and that is below the threshold for infection. At those levels, many of the proteins have dissipated. Here is a chart that shows a comparison of SARS1 vs SARS2 (our current pandemic). It is a bit tough to follow for the layman, but it can give you an idea.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.10...

Some info I have read show the highest concentration of viruses aerosolized found are 8-12 per cubic meter. That is coming from China so it could be altered. No one knows for sure how many active viruses it takes to get infected. Some former colleagues of mine suspect about 20. Relatively low. Here is a good article that talks about viral load and infections:
https://www.sciencealert.com/d...

It will be hard to find this info as much of it is not being released to the general public as it is supposition. This virus is new. It is similar to the SARS virus from 2003 but there are some key differences but it is the closest model we have.

 Michael you are correct.  Whether it can "live" on a surface for a certain period of time is quite another animal than whether you can reasonably contract it from the surface.  I remember the old debate of whether or not you could technically contracted HIV from a nefariously-contaminated pizza.  The answer is technically yes, practically no.

Post: Short-term Rental / AirBNB - How are you doing?

Collin Hays
#2 Short-Term & Vacation Rental Discussions Contributor
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Originally posted by @John Underwood:
Originally posted by @Collin Hays:
Originally posted by @John Underwood:
Originally posted by @Collin Hays:
Originally posted by @John Underwood:
Originally posted by @Collin Hays:
Originally posted by @John Underwood:

I turned off instant bookings for now to make sure no one is coming in from a hot spot.

I love this! STR with a little epidemiology sprinkled in. But how are you defining a hot spot?


“Oh crap you live in Detroit?  Sorry, you can’t come right now.“

My state just eliminated the 14 day quarantine when coming into the state. So I guess I will loosen up on what the white house defined as hot spot areas. Not sure I would accept someone from NY just yet.

 I haven't dropped in the search results so no rush to turn back on instant booking for a while.

We want to try and have a couple days between guests as much as possible. Erring on safety over a buck.

I am just curious, what science are you using to have two days between guests?   Is that something your state is ordering?  I don't think Walmart or restaurants are allowing more than two seconds between customers.

 Common sense based on how long the virus lives on various surfaces.

Interesting.  I own a group of franchise hair salons and we are moving through hundreds of customers per day.  I don't mean to insult you and respect your decision, but you do know that that CDC has yet to trace a single transmission of COVID-19 to touching a contaminated surface, I assume?  While it is technically possible for transmission this way - maybe if you are licking saliva off of a kitchen counter top, but that's really about it.  It's transmitted through inhalation of saliva droplets.   

 I appreciate the feedback maybe I will reconsider this position. Thanks.

Why do you think Airbnb and maybe Vrbo also are making such a big deal about higher cleaning standards? Just feel good CYA?

Both.  There's no science behind that whatsoever. 

Post: Short-term Rental / AirBNB - How are you doing?

Collin Hays
#2 Short-Term & Vacation Rental Discussions Contributor
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  • Gatlinburg, TN
  • Posts 2,534
  • Votes 3,527
Originally posted by @John Underwood:
Originally posted by @Collin Hays:
Originally posted by @John Underwood:
Originally posted by @Collin Hays:
Originally posted by @John Underwood:

I turned off instant bookings for now to make sure no one is coming in from a hot spot.

I love this! STR with a little epidemiology sprinkled in. But how are you defining a hot spot?


“Oh crap you live in Detroit?  Sorry, you can’t come right now.“

My state just eliminated the 14 day quarantine when coming into the state. So I guess I will loosen up on what the white house defined as hot spot areas. Not sure I would accept someone from NY just yet.

 I haven't dropped in the search results so no rush to turn back on instant booking for a while.

We want to try and have a couple days between guests as much as possible. Erring on safety over a buck.

I am just curious, what science are you using to have two days between guests?   Is that something your state is ordering?  I don't think Walmart or restaurants are allowing more than two seconds between customers.

 Common sense based on how long the virus lives on various surfaces.

Interesting.  I own a group of franchise hair salons and we are moving through hundreds of customers per day.  I don't mean to insult you and respect your decision, but you do know that that CDC has yet to trace a single transmission of COVID-19 to touching a contaminated surface, I assume?  While it is technically possible for transmission this way - maybe if you are licking saliva off of a kitchen counter top, but that's really about it.  It's transmitted through inhalation of saliva droplets.   

Post: Short-term Rental / AirBNB - How are you doing?

Collin Hays
#2 Short-Term & Vacation Rental Discussions Contributor
Posted
  • Property Manager
  • Gatlinburg, TN
  • Posts 2,534
  • Votes 3,527
Originally posted by @John Underwood:
Originally posted by @Collin Hays:
Originally posted by @John Underwood:

I turned off instant bookings for now to make sure no one is coming in from a hot spot.

I love this! STR with a little epidemiology sprinkled in. But how are you defining a hot spot?


“Oh crap you live in Detroit?  Sorry, you can’t come right now.“

My state just eliminated the 14 day quarantine when coming into the state. So I guess I will loosen up on what the white house defined as hot spot areas. Not sure I would accept someone from NY just yet.

 I haven't dropped in the search results so no rush to turn back on instant booking for a while.

We want to try and have a couple days between guests as much as possible. Erring on safety over a buck.

I am just curious, what science are you using to have two days between guests?   Is that something your state is ordering?  I don't think Walmart or restaurants are allowing more than two seconds between customers.

Post: Short-term Rental / AirBNB - How are you doing?

Collin Hays
#2 Short-Term & Vacation Rental Discussions Contributor
Posted
  • Property Manager
  • Gatlinburg, TN
  • Posts 2,534
  • Votes 3,527
Originally posted by @John Underwood:

I turned off instant bookings for now to make sure no one is coming in from a hot spot.

I love this! STR with a little epidemiology sprinkled in. But how are you defining a hot spot?


“Oh crap you live in Detroit?  Sorry, you can’t come right now.“