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All Forum Posts by: Christopher Cruz

Christopher Cruz has started 5 posts and replied 30 times.

Post: Owner Financed Deal - is it worth it?

Christopher CruzPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 21
Originally posted by @Chris Seveney:

Here is a 10,000 foot view of a deal that was brought to me. All of the information pertaining to income and expenses needs to be verified. The homeowner wants to sell due to age and health issues as they were also self managing the properties.

Three buildings for a sale price of $165,000 in a northern region of the US

Ten units in total with rental income of $6,125

Expenses are high due to utilities (oil heating) by owner. 

The homeowner will owner finance and hold the second note on the property (20%) for five years (amortized over 5 years) at 4%. So basically there is no out of pocket.

After factoring in utilities, an 8% vacancy, 10% CAPEX, 10% repairs and 10% PM the cash flow is negative $150. The majority of this is due to the $600/monthly payment paying off the second loan and the other big nut is the utilities which are $1500 a month.

The buildings are also all over 80 years old.

Even though this is owner financed and no money in it, I am going back and forth if this ais a good deal because if you figure you want to get $100/key this would equate to $12,000 a year for five years  = $60,000. Subtract to that the 20% down I would have paid which is $33k and it returns a positve $27k.

Based on the owner finance scenario, I would have the $32k paid off minus the $150 I am paying per month which equates to $9,000 so a total of $23k to the good.

While I am not at where I would be with $100/door, it corresponds closer to $90/door.

Thoughts?

This is not a good deal. Stay away. 

Post: Structuring a JV deal - James Wise podcast

Christopher CruzPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 21
Originally posted by @Arnauld Nakaha:

Hey BP members, Happy Monday!

I'd love you input on deal structure. After listening to the latest podcast with James Wise it makes sense to add JV as part of my arsenal, since I do have friends & family that have funds and have said they want to get into real estate.

My questions is: if as an investor I'm bringing: knowledge, research, connections, finding deals and orchestrating a team (rehabber, R.E. agent, bird dog, property management, etc.) -- and the JV partner is bringing money and/or credit, what should the split be? 70%: me/ 30%: partner, 60/40, 50/50? And why?

I'm hoping to get examples of actual deals you've structured or been a part of.

Thanks

Arnauld

Arnauld, with experience and a successful track record you can better negotiate the terms of your JV. Investors find it uneasy knowing the operating partner (gp) will have little skin in the game and are less likely to invest. I would recommend structuring the initial equity split based on what you feel comfortable investing in the deal and what your investors are comfortable with. Typically, until you reach a certain hurdle, you will not be collecting any sort of equity promote. Try getting at least 10% in the deal. With no track record, I would imagine you're going to need more. Deal size also matters. Your biggest investors will have the negotiating power, however you can try something like this:

Pari-passu: 0-8%, 90lp /10gp 

First promote: 8-16%, 75lp /25gp 

Second promote: 16%+, 60lp /40gp 

Hope this helps.

Post: Buy and build

Christopher CruzPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 21
Originally posted by @Jessie Dunn:

I am curious as to how the process works for buying land and building an apartment building on it.  How does financing work? How much cash and/or collateral would we need? Can buying the land and construction be wrapped up in one loan? I'm looking for direction as to where to begin, websites to reference, etc... I have a million questions. Thx!

Jessie, I do development in NYC, and every market is a bit different. It is a hairy beast. My advice would be to team up with a seasoned vet to learn the ropes. So many variables are involved in develop projects and you must understand every moving piece to underwrite the project and make a sound decision on whether a project is worth moving forward. Don't touch a project that will return less than ~20% IRR.

Generally the first thing you want to do is zoning analysis on the land you are looking at. You can hire at attorneys, architects, or read through local master plans. Is it approved for the project you would like to develop? If not, you must take it through town board for variance approval - this is VERY time consuming and expensive. You will need an architect to draft conceptual plans. This could take up to 24 months depending on the market. In NYC we have expediters who make a living off of this process. 

Assuming your land is as-of-right or approved for the project you are going to develop, you will then need to think about construction costs, soft costs, and financing costs, revenue your project will generate and compare that to the market. If your project is coming in under a cap rate spread of 200 bps (this is what my firm uses in NYC so I'd assume mass market should be much higher spread), then ditch the project. Assuming you move forward because the underwriting checks out then you need to secure financing.

Securing financing is easier said than done, and unless you have years of experience, successful projects and a fat net worth you most likely will not get financing from traditional banks or get rates that slaughter the economics of the project. Depending on your experience, net worth, the bank you approach, you can get 50%-75% of total development costs financed. 

Financing is typically structured as interest only debt with 24-36 month term, which will convert to traditional financing upon stabilization and a handful of covenants including DSCR, debt yield, etc. Good luck working with a bank on funding requests and draws, you may find yourself financing the construction for periods of 14-30 days until bank approves on a draw.

As someone correctly stated above, if land is not approved for the project you will not get financing from a traditional bank. What we have done in the past, is lock up a vacant lot in contract contingent upon approvals from DOB. There is land financing out there which typically requires large down payments, I'm not too familiar with terms because we typically purchase land in cash. 

It is also important to understand that even if you receive construction financing, your equity goes in first. Meaning if you get construction financing of 65% on a $10MM all-in project, you will need to come up with $3.5MM before the bank will allow funding requests. Land value will count towards your equity contributions.

Dream big, ask the right questions and never agree when someone tells you it's not possible. Best of luck.

Post: Is an LLC or LP better for real estate investing?

Christopher CruzPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 21
Originally posted by @Anthony Colonnetta:
I am a young real estate investor who will start investing in the next couple of years. I know you all aren't attorneys but what is better LLC or a LP? I am stressing about all of this and wondering if I have to learn about a LP and LLC or do I just let my future attorney worry about this?also, with a LP do you have to be in a partnership with someone else? How does that work? Thanks a lot for the future feedback! Anthony

Assets should be purchased under SPV's, typical entity structure is an LLC. If you have investors, the entity controlling that SPV should be a partnership. GP/LP structure is ideal. Refer to counsel.

Post: Review of investment worksheet

Christopher CruzPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 21

Return on investment is an absolute return, i.e, a multiple of your original investment. What you are attempting to calculate is cash on cash return and an internal rate of return. Together, these 3 calculations will form the basis of analyzing an investment property. Try something like this for each year, model number of years you intend on holding i.e 3, 5, 7, 10, etc.

+PGI
-Vacancy
=EGI

Operating Expenses:
-Insurance
-RE Taxes
-Prperty Management
-Utilities
-Other Operating expense

NOI = EGI - Operating Expenses

Mortgage Payments:
-Principal
-Interest
CF after Debt Service

CapEx
-Capital Expenditures
CF after CapEx

-Purchase/+Sale
+Financing/-Paydown of remaining balance upon sale
Net Cash Flow

Calculate your returns off of Net Cash flow.

Returns:
Levered CoC: Year X CF/Equity Invested
ROI: Equity Invested/Total CF Distributions, including sale
IRR: Use excel function to calculate (=IRR(equityinvested, Year 1 CF, Year 2 CF, etc.)

Compare return metrics to other investment opportunities and pursue accordingly. 


Hope this helps, message me with any questions.

Post: Review of investment worksheet

Christopher CruzPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 21
Originally posted by @Karl Sivert Skatland:

Calculating the principal is not the problem (as you can see from the worksheet). My question is how do I address the positive impact paying the principal has. I know it can`t be counted as income, as it does not affect the cash flow. But how do I account for the decreasing total mortgage?

Every year you're paying $X in principal payments, you are building $X in equity assuming the value remains the same. That equity will only be realized once the asset is sold or recapitalized. Assume a sale price in year Y, and those principal payments will be factored into your return on investment calculation because when you sell the asset you will be paying down a mortgage balance of (Original Amount - Principal Payments + Outstanding Interest). 

If you wanted to, you can calculate an unrealized return on equity (return on initial down payment + CC and any other expenses associated with the purchase) at any given point by adding your principal payments back to your total cash flow. Market value assumptions would sensitize your calculation 

You can also play around and model different recap scenarios

FYI you should be calculating RE asset returns on a pre-tax basis. What you are calling yearly ROI is referred to as cash on cash returns. In your case they are levered (use of mortgage). Levered CoC

Hope this helps.

Post: Passed RE EXAM !!!!!! NEXT STEP IS....

Christopher CruzPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 21
Originally posted by @Chris Rosenberg:

@Christopher Cruz

It's interesting that you mention Morris Park. I am strongly considering purchasing a small multi family in Morris Park and living there. Everything looks good. I like the neighborhood. Seems like crime is low, neighborhood is quiet, convenient to Manhattan by train, just a solid middle class neighborhood. And the price is right. Am I missing something? Do you know if the neighborhood is starting to change for the worst or something?

I don't think you're missing much.  Morris Park is filled with Hospitals, medical facilities, Albert Einstein School of Medicine, etc. at the very least you can find a solid tenant base to get some CF. Stay near the aforementioned + public transit and position it so it can be marketed towards students, nurses, admin., etc. 

Post: Passed RE EXAM !!!!!! NEXT STEP IS....

Christopher CruzPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 21

@Terrell Sapp

I'll start off by saying I'm not a broker. I work for a shop that buys and develops in NYC so I deal with many. Some add value, others simply sell. The difference is vast.

 You are a Bronx guy, use that to your advantage. NYC market is experiencing irrational exuberance for a handful of reasons, but the Bronx is one of the only boroughs where you can find rentals that still pencil out. As you know, a large part of the Bronx is misunderstood and because of this you can find some value, i.e Morris Park. 

So here is my advice, or rather a specific strategy you may want to try: find an active buyer of Bronx MF commercial properties and understand their strategy and acquisition criteria. Use your local networks, relationships and knowledge to find the owners of buildings that fit their criteria and approach the owners with a value proposition. I would use ACRIS to get ownership information on properties you can't otherwise get. Remember, it's a numbers game. You will eventually find an owner willing to sell and you'll have a buyer already lined up. 


Obviously, this strategy can be applied to any market. Hope this helps, best of luck.

Post: NYC 30-floor Development - Cost Estimates and More

Christopher CruzPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 21

Hi Guys,

I'm putting together a preliminary redevelopment model and I need some help from any experienced developers/builders in the NYC area. Any and all feedback/insight and direction is much appreciated.

Redevelopment project: Residential Rentals, ground floor commercial space, community facility.

30 floors

~190,000 buildable SF

Questions:

Experienced developers - what is the avg ratio for residential buildings of rentable SF to buildable SF. i.e 150,000/195,000

Cost of Construction: Residential $/PSF, Commercial $/PSF, Community Facility $/PSF.

is there a general rule of thumb for unit mix ratio? i.e 5x(1BR):10x(2BR):5x(3BR). I realize it is ultimately up to developers but is there an ideal mix?

How long (in months) will a build of 30-floor residential building take? Nothing too detailed, your 'average' NYC residential building. Foundation is already in place.

*****

I know this is very vague and missing a ton of detail needed to answer these questions with accuracy. I'm looking for a general ball park and some guidance to get this model going. At the end of the day, these numbers will be to-the-T.

Thanks,

-Chris

Post: Sub$30k - Property pictures

Christopher CruzPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • New York, NY
  • Posts 33
  • Votes 21

Hey guys -

Do most of you make cash purchases? Or do some finance these cheap properties?

Thanks,

Chris