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All Forum Posts by: David Lilley

David Lilley has started 9 posts and replied 240 times.

Post: Syndication - Becoming a Partner

David LilleyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 261
  • Votes 170

10% is common for your balance sheet and signing on the loan.

Post: Market Cap rate source

David LilleyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 261
  • Votes 170

Find someone with access to Costar. You can run a historical/forecast cap rate report.

Post: Why List Properties "Unpriced"?

David LilleyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 261
  • Votes 170

@Scott M. hit the nail on the head.

Post: Loans for syndication deals

David LilleyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 261
  • Votes 170

What @Greg Scott said. In fact, most banks require your LLC be a Single Asset Entity (SAE).

Post: CPA and Lawyer referrals for Dallas

David LilleyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 261
  • Votes 170

@Alex Euziere Libby Sparks for your Real Estate Attorney and Securities/Tax needs. Shifflett and Philips CPA for taxes.

Post: What are the returns like in a real estate syndication?

David LilleyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 261
  • Votes 170
Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:
Originally posted by @Justin Goodin:
Originally posted by @David Lilley:

The above are conservative estimates. In our syndications, our LPs typically achieve a 1.75x - 2x equity multiple in 2-3 years and as the GP, I achieve a 2-4x on my investment.

The more active you are in the investment the faster you will grow your capital. 

 Yes, these are conservative projections but it's better to underpromise and over deliver. 

 Correct me if I am wrong, but as syndicators isn't it actually illegal for you to overpromise? Most prospectus I have read have gigantic disclaimers.

As a moderator, I also wanted to caution that since you are all in the syndication business, proceed with caution. This entire discussion is really walking the line of self promotion, which is not allowed on BP. Thanks for your understanding.

 Under promising should be irrelevant to this post. I think the readers are here to find out how much you can actually make in this type of investment.

As far as the legality of over promising, there is nothing illegal about it. However, without the right disclosures and legal filings, yes, you can be sued for getting it wrong. 

Post: What are the returns like in a real estate syndication?

David LilleyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 261
  • Votes 170

The above are conservative estimates. In our syndications, our LPs typically achieve a 1.75x - 2x equity multiple in 2-3 years and as the GP, I achieve a 2-4x on my investment.

The more active you are in the investment the faster you will grow your capital. 

Post: 1031 vs Bonus Cost Segregation Depreciation.

David LilleyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 261
  • Votes 170

@Pratik Sheth it is not a one or the other situation. On every property we buy we immediately do a cost seg study and take the bonus depreciation in year 1. With bonus depreciation we typically get $1 of depreciation for every $1 invested, so if you had $100,000 of equity into a multifamily property, you would get $100,000 in depreciation year 1.

As Real Estate Professionals, we do this to shield all of our ordinary income from being taxed. If you do not qualify as a Real Estate Professional, then your passive losses (depreciation) can only offset your passive gains.

At the end of the hold period we always 1031 Exchange into the next investment to defer taxes on our capital gains and avoid depreciation recapture. Then, we complete another cost seg study / bonus depreciation and the cycle starts over again.

If you are not holding the asset for at least a year then you cannot 1031 exchange and taking bonus depreciation would not be advised. If you intend to own the asset less than 3 years and do not intend to 1031 Exchange out of the investment then it is probably not worth it in that case either. 

Post: My first syndication

David LilleyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 261
  • Votes 170

If you don't have property management lined up (and I mean a GREAT property management team), and a General Contractor that you know and trust and have worked with before, then get that figured out ASAP. Feel free to message me with any questions you have @Shawn Long

Post: Is it a bad deal to buy a multifamily that is already renovated?

David LilleyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 261
  • Votes 170

@Phil Pat the answer to that question is entirely up to you. Are you satisfied with the projected cash flow and overall return on your investment? Would the deal be a needed step in accomplishing your goals?

For me, I would only buy a fully renovated asset if it were under priced with significant in place yield (cash flow), or if the area was phenomenal and I were projecting some aggressive rent growth/appreciation. 

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