All Forum Posts by: Debbie Lee

@Account Closed I think I do agree with your point !

After they have done huge effort of seminar tours, advertising, putting up " magic shows " would they be so dumb not doing anything to protect their money?

@Rod Desinord yes, now I think back... I did not know what was wrong with me, but the company definitely has put up a " world class" magic show that a big bunch of people got hooked that day.

@Rhonda E.

Thank you for all your great advises. I think I will first get the the advise from a attorney than move from there.

I actually found out a another person I met at seminar she paid $30,000 but was able to get back $ 23,000 , She is on the way getting the money transfer back to her account.

I will use this case to argue with the company after she safe and soundly have her money on her hand.

As I paid total of $41,000, was given refund for $14,5000 and a further $4,500 if I agree to sign their refund agreement. ( I am sure the agreement is to stop me from asking more refund !)

Any thought?

@Jay Hinrichs great thanks !

@Jay Hinrichs @Ryan Mullin I have post on ripoff.com already, included me there are total of 7 people, not sure this handful of people's report is making any effect on the company?

@Guy Gimenez @Mel Jeffrey sure!  this is a expensive lesson learnt, will I not reading and make sure I understand everything before I sign?

@Dave Fontana They taught us how to ask for a raised credit limit from our existing credit card company, and also show us websites how to open up more new credit cards to get up to $40,000 to pay them almost immediately.

and thank you so much for the advise: Try the State of Illinois Attorney General and the you local consumer affairs department. I think these are great to try out!

what or how did they change? I have been assigned 2 consultants to get me pay the total of $41,000.  The 1st consultant got my deposit $4,500 soon after 5 days she left the company! no where to be found, I was devastated ! A very strong remorse feeling of being betrayed!

So,  on the spot ( same day) they send me another consultant, do you think he can do the  talk ? you bet! he was with me every minute on the phone for a few days as I took it out on him saying how much I don't trust the company. So, he had the patient and TIME to explain everything to me, and promised so well for whatever I asked, ( like: how to payback the monthly payment on several cardsI used, I needed to be guided step by step...etc)  he even offer to call me over the weekend ! and guess what as soon as I paid him the balance of about $35,000 He was VERY HARD to be found! I sent a simple text have to wait for 5 days to replied. When he finally replied he said " please understand I am a single father with 3 kids, I have a real estate business to run too, please do not text me day and night...etc!

I WAS FURIOUS! all the sudden after I paid him the money he is very busy !

I called up the customer service tried to reach to the higher management, but again waited another 1 week, no one called, but another sales guy called to ask if I am interested to pay another $15,000 for "a inner circle" training !

The lady from customer service was helpful though, she could not be more agreed with my mis-treatment, she end up given me the " one on one coach training up to a year for free" as she said this service will cost $15,000 too! ( well, now I think of it.... I really doubt what to believe?)

a couple days after this, I just did not have any trust left with the company ! It is hard to work with someone without the trust, even if I tried and tried ! So I called to ask for refund !

Again, I will share the guru name most definitely, but at the meantime please bare with me when trying all I can to resolve the best way I can !

Thank you to all above comments, I really appreciated !

Yes I do thinking of getting a attorney to get involved, but just like what @Account Closed said "get a nice little, certified letter out the door. Just letting the company know you are serious about getting your money back" .....I am really stuck in between !

the biggest mistake at that time was they asked me to "sign here" without really making it clear to me that was a "contract" I signed! 

Excuse me for not reveal which company as yet, as for the time being I don't want to make it more difficult to get money refunded, but I promise I will as soon as this has been resolved. 

I definitely will file for a dispute from 3 different credit card companies that I used to pay, any thought about this method?

Hi to all investors out there, hope you have any advise or resource to help me out.

About 3 weeks ago I paid about $41,000 to a real estate investing company. After I have paid, their attitude and responsibility promised to me changed totally. Slowly I lost my trust on them, so decided to go ahead and ask for a refund.

after a couple of phone calls they only agreed and only refunded me $14,500 and will further refund my $4,500 if I sign their refund agreement ( I guess they are trying to get me sign and agree those are the amount I agree to be refunded and I can't take any other further action to ask more refund), I said I have to call you back. The only reason they holding strongly to argue with me for not willing to refund the most of the amount paid is that I have signed the contract ! They have so smoothly get me to sign a piece of agreement paper, without making it clear that was a " contract" I signed.

Please, do you have any advise or resource that can help me get most portion of the money back?

any suggestion or advise is greatly appreciated !