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All Forum Posts by: Dina Harleth

Dina Harleth has started 17 posts and replied 49 times.

Post: Calculating capital gains on sale of gifted house?

Dina HarlethPosted
  • Newport Beach, CA
  • Posts 49
  • Votes 2

@Account Closed

I believe this article describes the scenario you are referring to:

http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2014/04/01/no-capital-gains-taxes-due-for-some-investors/

So if one's income is in the 15% tax bracket, i.e. 36,900, no capital gains are owed?

Single Filing Status

[Tax Rate Schedule X, Internal Revenue Code section 1(c)]

  • 10% on taxable income from $0 to $9,075, plus
  • 15% on taxable income over $9,075 to $36,900, plus
  • 25% on taxable income over $36,900 to $89,350, plus

Post: Calculating capital gains on sale of gifted house?

Dina HarlethPosted
  • Newport Beach, CA
  • Posts 49
  • Votes 2

@Bill Exeter, I think my question was not worded clearly. I was asking whether the property acquired after the exchange has been done (the new investment property) can at some point be used as a primary residence (in a worst case scenario in which I need a roof over my head, say). Obviously this would be after some period (1-2 years?) of renting the property. The realtor told me there was a new IRS rule forbidding this from being done.

@K. Marie Poe I wanted to add that I'm a bit wary of consulting with a CPA prior to doing my own research. It seems these types of issues are so complicated that many individuals, even those in the business (i.e. the realtor I spoke with), are not aware of all the details and possibilities. I see that you're in California; do you happen to have any recommendations for a CPA thoroughly familiar with the code regarding real estate transactions?

Thank you all for your helpful advice!

Post: Calculating capital gains on sale of gifted house?

Dina HarlethPosted
  • Newport Beach, CA
  • Posts 49
  • Votes 2

@Account Closed, your advice is well taken. I see what you mean about getting in over my head here. I am intrigued by your statement that I could possibly avoid capital gains; I have, in fact, had very low income these last couple years. Could you please explain briefly the above scenario? Are there 0% capital gains for certain income brackets?

Thank you so much!

Post: Calculating capital gains on sale of gifted house?

Dina HarlethPosted
  • Newport Beach, CA
  • Posts 49
  • Votes 2

@Jon Holdman, thank you for so generously taking the time to answer in detail. I most certainly will consult a CPA. I wanted to see If I could come up with some rough figures to see if this is even a viable option vs. holding the property and doing a 1031 exchange. By the way, a local realtor told me that for 1031 exchanges the owner is no longer allowed to ever live in the exchanged property as his/her primary residence (even after renting for a couple years). She said this was a rule that had been recently added; do you know if this is true?

Thanks for your help regarding calculating the gains. I was not able to easily find out what my father had paid for the house so I went to my County Clerk Recorder's office where they instructed me to look for the documentary transfer tax paid on the house. (I'm assuming this is the information that would be provided in the HUD-1 you mentioned.) They then gave me a conversion formula of 1.10 in tax per 1,000 paid for the house. Using this formula I calculated my father bought the home for 68,500, which I understand would be my basis.It's now worth about 940,000.

As for improvements, the house has new roofing, bay windows, marble entryway, new fence, new pool heater, sprinkler system, satellite dish, security system, and I’ll put in new flooring. Besides the flooring those are the improvements I know were added by my father. The realtor told me that I could estimate about 50k in improvements and take pictures as proof of them if I don’t have documentation; is this correct? I suppose if I cannot add improvements to my basis this will be a factor to consider in whether to do a 1031 exchange since there won’t be any capital gains to pay in that scenario, correct?

Thanks for your explanation of depreciation. Would straight line depreciation be applicable in this scenario? So, if I understand you correctly, it is taken as a yearly deduction when the property is used as a rental, but then whatever was deducted as depreciation during the property’s rental years is subtracted from the basis when the property is sold? In other words, I’ll end up paying capital gains on whatever cumulative amount I take as deductions over the years the property is rented .

I didn’t understand what you said here: “Further, the amount of gain up the the deprecation taken or allowed, whichever is greater, is subject to a recapture tax. That's at your ordinary tax rate, but is currently capped at 25%.”I did some Googling but am not clear on what the recapture tax is, exactly. Could you please point me to a good explanation?

I don’t believe I’ll end up with losses when I rent since the house is paid in full (is that what you mean – that the rental income may not cover the mortgage? Or are there other losses to anticipate?)

I realize, too, from reading the IRS publication, that another option I have would be to rent the property for less than three years and then sell it. That would still allow me the homeowner’s exclusion, since I would’ve lived in the property for two years before renting it, which would be two out of the five years prior to the sale of the property. Is that right?

I’m not sure why the realtor I spoke with quoted me a capital gains rate of 20%.

Finally, would there be any state taxes to be paid as well?

Thank you so much; this is all incredibly helpful as I get a rough idea of whether I’d do better selling now or doing an exchange in a couple years. I’d lose my father’s very low property tax basis if/when I did the exchange. Also, I don’t know much about real estate and when doing an analysis of the profit on the house as a rental property saw that it was less than the average stock market returns.That, too, was some very rough figuring, so I’ll have to research those topics as well.

Thanks so much for your help!

-Dina

Post: Calculating capital gains on sale of gifted house?

Dina HarlethPosted
  • Newport Beach, CA
  • Posts 49
  • Votes 2

Hi everyone,

I'm contemplating selling a house that was gifted to me by my father while he was still alive. I'm trying to calculate what I'd net from the sale of the property (to make a comparison between selling it now or doing a 1031 after renting it out for a couple years). I would have lived in it for 2 years by the time I would sell so I'd qualify for the homeowner's exclusion.

Is the following an accurate way to make an estimate of what I'd net? ?

[Projected sale price (from Zillow) - closing costs (~10k?) - improvements - 250k (single homeowner's exclusion)] X .8 (20% capital gains taxes) = take home cash

Are these all the factors to consider? What about depreciation? I don't have documentation about all the improvements made to the house so I'd have to estimate that. Also, do improvements and repairs I make right before selling the house get deducted as well? (i.e. replacing carpet with hardwood floors).

Ultimately I'm trying to see if it's better to sell the house or to do a 1031 exchange for a multi-unit in couple years. I have no idea how to calculate possible returns on those properties. I have no experience with real estate. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!

Thank you!

Hi everyone,

I have a single family home gifted to me from one of my parents as well as enough cash to buy a similar home. My current income is low -- too low to qualify for a mortgage of any kind - due to health issues I've been dealing with for the last few years.

I'd like to generate as much passive income as I can from my assets and am wondering what would be the best way to go about doing it. I need a place to live for myself that doesn't need to be as large as where I live now, and I'd like to move anyway. I was also thinking of buying a multi-unit somewhere in the state (I live in CA) that I could use for rental income but also as a fallback for a place to live myself should the need ever arise (though I prefer to stay in a house as long as I can afford it).

I'm wondering if it's ever wise to buy investment properties in cash and whether I should maybe just invest in dividend stocks until I can generate enough income to get a mortgage.

As I'm sure is obvious from the above, I'm a complete newbie though I have taken a couple of real estate courses at my local community college. :P

Thanks a ton for any advice.

-Dina

Chris Sweeney, this is a great idea. I will definitely call back tomorrow pretending to be a prospective tenant looking for a house in this area. :) Thanks for the excellent tip!

Lynn M., Steve Babiak, Matthew Rutledge, thank you all for the help! I used all the online resources you suggested and also called up property managers and now have an idea of what my house can rent for. I'm very excited! :)

Thanks again for taking the time to help me out.

Lynn M., thanks for the information. So do I need any information other than my address, approximate square footage, etc when speaking to management companies? I'm not sure, for instance, whether I'm going to upgrade the flooring, etc. But a rough estimate at this point will be adequate.

Thank you so much!

Hi,

I'm thinking of renting out my SFH (I'm planning on moving) and would like to know how much rent I could expect to get for it. I have looked at CL and seen homes in this area rented both long and short term. If I call up local property management, can they give me an idea of my options? What specific information should I have before calling, or will they just give me a rough estimate based on my location, size of the house, etc?
Thanks very much!

-Dinah