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All Forum Posts by: Doug Nordman

Doug Nordman has started 2 posts and replied 33 times.

Originally posted by @Nathan Gesner:

The cleaning and minor repairs should have been charged to the departing tenant and deducted from the deposit.

If you want to know what the property manager is going to charge, you'll have to ask them. This worries me that you even have to ask the question because the PM should disclose their fees in a written agreement.

No worries on the tenant; we charged them appropriately for their part of the cleaning & repairs. 

The cleaning & repairs from the manager were for moving our landlord's stored refrigerator back into the house and setting it up.  That could've gone better than it did, which was the first little red flag after the tenants were out.

It would've been great to see a list of fees.  I suspect that they might not have a separate fee for just moving out a tenant, but rather bundle it all into the entire turnover process.  Part of that informality (or lack of communication) is why we're reconsidering this particular manager, but we still want to end the relationship with a fair payment.  If there's no standard fee or local custom then we'd just figure that out with the manager.

Originally posted by @Aaron K.:

Not sure how to handle a move out but for finding a new tenant it varies by area, in an expensive market like Oahu it is probably a flat fee in the $500-$700 range in other areas it can be a percentage of the rent.  I've commonly seen 30-50% of the first month's rent.

Thanks, we'd prefer a flat fee or an hourly rate for a moveout too.  It's been tough to figure out the local custom without spending more time surveying the island's bigger property-management companies.

The manager has told us that they have a couple of interested tenants, but if we decide not to go with a management contract then we'd rather pay a finder's fee.  

I’ve been a BP member for over a year, and I finally have some questions.

We’ve managed our only rental property for over 20 years. It’s a single-family home in the Waipio Gentry neighborhood on Oahu, and we live just a few miles away. More details are in my profile but my questions are on a separate subject.

In September, while we were off-island for a couple months, our tenants gave notice. We hired a property manager (referral from a friend) to handle the moveout, and that went all right. The ex-tenants are happy too.

Now we’re back home and working through the punch list before marketing the home to the next tenants. That should go fine.

We considered hiring the property manager to bring on new tenants and take care of the place full-time, but we’re not sure that they’re the right company to work with. We might continue a search for a manager, but in the meantime we want to pay this one for their time & skills.

We know that they’ve incurred $350 in expenses for cleaning & minor repairs. They haven’t mentioned a total moveout fee yet, perhaps because (at the time) they wanted to build reciprocity for signing an annual contract.

How do we put a price on the manager’s total fee for the moveout? Is there an hourly rate for a manager’s time, is it typically a percentage of the rent, is it a local-custom flat fee, or is there some other factor?

We’d be happy to pay the manager a finder’s fee for referring new tenants to us. We’d handle the application and the screening and the lease and moving them in. Once we’ve deposited the tenant’s security and first month’s rent, what’s a typical price for the manager’s finder’s fee? Is that also a percentage of the rent or a local custom?