Skip to content
×
Pro Members Get
Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
ANNUAL Save 16%
$32.50 /mo
$390 billed annualy
MONTHLY
$39 /mo
billed monthly
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
×
Try Pro Features for Free
Start your 7 day free trial. Pick markets, find deals, analyze and manage properties.
All Forum Categories
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

All Forum Posts by: David Putz

David Putz has started 13 posts and replied 138 times.

Post: Buying your first note

David PutzPosted
  • Investor
  • Jackson, NJ
  • Posts 167
  • Votes 54

@Benjamin Hirsch correct.  We have our automation tools that allows us to scrape county sites for these types of things but finding a note is only half the battle. 

Post: NotesDirect.Com - Has anyone used this platform?

David PutzPosted
  • Investor
  • Jackson, NJ
  • Posts 167
  • Votes 54

@Bob Berland We have also purchased from them as well as many others.  We found the best way to purchase notes is buying from other investors.  Often times they reason why they are selling is a perfect relationship with someone selling.  We sell most of our loans direct to buyers. 

Post: Buying your first note

David PutzPosted
  • Investor
  • Jackson, NJ
  • Posts 167
  • Votes 54

@Telless Cade we often recommend with little bit of money buying a partial it helps get your feet wet and get you active in the process.   Regarding cold-calling banks, we have heard many make that suggestion however the success stories are limited. In regards to brokering notes, you should know what makes a good note as you will be more successful at pitching it to investors. If you are looking for the tools feel free to reach out we have a ton of automation tools(Such as our new Notes Bid calculator) to help + over 100 Assets for sale. 

@Joel Hutchinson Many of us buy individual but also buy "pools" buying with IRA has its perks as well. I

@Daniel Chun The space is very small, so just ask around for recommendations on mentors.  There is a ton of resources but as we have in our beginner's series one of the best method is mentor and the method is barter. 

@Ben Lake Often the best found owner carried notes are the ones that are posted for sale but done out of "must", for example someone who inherits a home. 

Post: What do you expect to see from Note Investing in the next year?

David PutzPosted
  • Investor
  • Jackson, NJ
  • Posts 167
  • Votes 54

Being a note investor for over 10 years and starting at large fund I always saw large tapes.  When I broke off in 2012 and started buying personally, I hoped never to see the day of tapes of less than 300-500 would never end.  I have seen many new investors enter (and exit) in this time but I have also made some great friends along the way.  I am curious with things being up-in-the-air where others see this investment space moving to.  We had a webinar recently that talked about this and will have one tomorrow so I was wondering from this social media where others see things in a year from now.

Post: Fair Market Value for Mortgage Note

David PutzPosted
  • Investor
  • Jackson, NJ
  • Posts 167
  • Votes 54

We have always used UPB as our FMV for both our Performing and NPL.

Post: Note Investing ROI Calculator?

David PutzPosted
  • Investor
  • Jackson, NJ
  • Posts 167
  • Votes 54

@Jason Dellaposta I apologize for not seeing this post earlier.  I was part of that call with Kimberly and Nathan a few years back and it was great to share information.  Being in the note space for over 10 years, putting a bid calculator together has been the number one item that most people ask for.  However each method of calculation is unique to how the look at deals, which makes "sharing" difficult.  On the flip side it is also that secret sauce that gives you the leg up.  Feel free to reach out with any questions.  JKP Holdings

Post: Note Investing ROI Calculator?

David PutzPosted
  • Investor
  • Jackson, NJ
  • Posts 167
  • Votes 54

Post: Denver rents dropped for the first time since 2010

David PutzPosted
  • Investor
  • Jackson, NJ
  • Posts 167
  • Votes 54
Originally posted by @Ken Hobbick:

Both articles are interesting and provide pieces of information.   Like mentioned a $30 decrease in rents can be temporary and due to COVID not to mention averaged in a larger Denver metro area.    I'm watching the class A condos in Downtown Denver and the response to average days to rent and prices for those types of properties.  Which could indicate a weakening demand for those types of properties.  

I would agree with @James Carlson on the effects of low interest rates as people will buy a house based on the payment they can afford not necessarily the price. 

Low Inventory 

With inventory less than 1 month could be temporarily suppressed as people are not wanting to move unless absolutely needed to during this time,  but less than 2 months inventory indicates demand is higher than supply which won't induce price reductions. 

Distress Properties 

I have experience buying distressed notes, it is rare to find a defaulted note or REO in Colorado, of the three that I have run across in the past 3 years only 1 was in Denver metro area.
  
Articles like Corelogic are useful but they aggregating data on national level trying to find trends and sum them up in a few pages.  I remember hearing there are over 400 individual real estate markets in US, so its important to keep in mind the source when they drill down to specific market predictions.  Which is why I tend to give more weight from someone with years of experience in local market.  It pays to know your market, or at least know someone who knows the market. 

I agree we haven't seen many Colorado notes in the 100's of thousands of notes we have seen/bought over the 10 + years.  

Post: Anyone experienced buying residential distressed debt portfolios?

David PutzPosted
  • Investor
  • Jackson, NJ
  • Posts 167
  • Votes 54

@Miao Wang you are buying the debt secured by the real estate not the hard asset.  So if the debt goes into default, recourse is set by the terms of the promissory note.  Often that is a Lien on the property.  Which means you can go through the process of foreclosure.   

If the borrower performs it is similar to rental however you are not dealing with the tenants, turnover, roof, maintenance etc.  However you do not own the deed of the property so no appreciation.

If you buy the debt at a good discounted price you then can collect a great irr/yield for years.  You then can sell the note easily. 

jkp holdings 

Post: Anyone experienced buying residential distressed debt portfolios?

David PutzPosted
  • Investor
  • Jackson, NJ
  • Posts 167
  • Votes 54

Yes we been buying pools of notes since 2010.  What new investors often get confused on is the purchase of debt vs buying the property.   In our space the investment is more about legal than the real estate.  How solid is the collateral file, is there any other liens, what the state laws are on their debt license etc...