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All Forum Posts by: Erik R Aho

Erik R Aho has started 1 posts and replied 23 times.

Post: Looking to get into REI, starting with $140,000.

Erik R AhoPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Long Island, NY
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 14
Quote from @Natalie Medved:

Couldn't agree more! My husband and I househacked our apartment in Boston when we moved to NH during the pandemic and BRRR'd our second property (which balance a bit and hold/ STR). We just bought a 3/1 in Harwich, MA (where my husband is from) and are house hacking on that property now. A lot of the posts make two really good points: (1) a lot of people are trying to sell their services to newbies, which is completely understandable but can be a train wreck (I almost made a bad choice in 2022 when I was a newbie on the site and trying to get my feet wet). Be open to learning but balance that with a healthy dose of skepticism and your own research/ edification. (2) househacking is the perfect first step. You can get in the market with less money, could have more time to do a Reno/ make updates and force appreciation, and someone else is helping cover your mortgage.

Growing up my dad would ask me “how do you eat an elephant?”  The answer, “one bite at a time.”

Getting into REI is no different for the majority of people who do it. Start with what you can manage, be honest with yourself about the risk you are comfortable with, and go slow.

Good luck and feel free to reach out with any questions! 



 


 Thanks for the reply, and I love that quote from your dad! Just out of curiosity, what loan are you using for your current househack?

Post: Looking to get into REI, starting with $140,000.

Erik R AhoPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Long Island, NY
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 14
Quote from @Ray Hage:
Quote from @Erik R Aho:

The thought of buying cash flowing rental properties interests me. However, I'm from Long Island, NY and cash-flowing deals are very hard to find. I'm considering purchasing out of state but don't know which markets I should look out or how to find deals in said markets. I'm 20 years old and have about $105,000 outside of retirement that I'd love to do something with. However I lack the confidence and knowledge to get started. Any tips?


Hey Erik. Study the markets you are targeting and find investors/agents/property managers in those areas to network with. They can help guide you in specific local markets. I am an investor and RE agent in Fort Lauderdale, Florida so if this is one of your targets, I would happy to help out. But I'll be clear, it will be very tough to buy a cashflowing turnkey investment, but there are still some deals to be had in south Florida. 105k is plenty to get started with. Since you're only 20, you don't have a ton of credit history but there are still some loans you can get.


 Thanks!

Post: Looking to get into REI, starting with $140,000.

Erik R AhoPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Long Island, NY
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 14
Quote from @Jake Andronico:

@Erik R Aho

Congrats on saving that much being so young!!! Such an awesome place to be. 

I'm bias, but house hacking is the absolute best way to get started in my opinion. You've built something up to the point where you don't want to lose it, and house hacking is a phenomenal entry point with incredible tax benefits. 

I've house hacked twice in Reno, NV and it's already changed my life. 

Completely agree w/ @Nicholas L.


 Was wondering what type of financing you used for the house hacks?

Post: Looking to get into REI, starting with $140,000.

Erik R AhoPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Long Island, NY
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 14
Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@Erik R Aho

start with a house hack.  period.  and remember that a house hack is about building long term wealth, not about cash flowing.  you will likely still have to come out of pocket on your mortgage payment, which is fine.

please do not buy a random property thousands of miles away in a market you don't know anything about because someone on the Internet told you to.  this thread perfectly illustrates the reality of cash flow in the first few years, which is this: there isn't any.  in any market.

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/12/topics/1171104-the-m...


 Thank you for the comment as well as the link to the thread, its a great read.

Post: Looking to get into REI, starting with $140,000.

Erik R AhoPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Long Island, NY
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 14
Quote from @Milton Chamberlain:
Quote from @Erik R Aho:
Quote from @Milton Chamberlain:

Hi Erik, Happy to chat with you about your goals and how investing in real estate can help you. Give you any feedback you may want.


 Hey Milton, I see that you're an agent. Do you work with many investors or do you own any properties yourself?

I own 3 SFR as investments in Columbia MO, along with my 4th primary SFR in KCMO. two of the 3 investments have been gutted and rehabbed. I Bought a dental practice with my wife 2 years ago, so once we are no longer poor from that, plan is to convert 3rd property into a STR. Then plan is to merge some City lots I own in Columbia MO and build new construction triplex.

Then my plan is to begin investing in my local market of KCMO. For now though, I just assist local and OOS investors underwrite deals, and act as boots on the ground for my OOS investors. I am well versed in laws pertaining to STR regulations, which are extensive in my market.


 Very cool thanks so much for the comments. What you're working on sounds awesome. Maybe I'll look into KCMO markets.

Post: Looking to get into REI, starting with $140,000.

Erik R AhoPosted
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  • Long Island, NY
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 14
Quote from @Conner Olsen:
Quote from @Erik R Aho:

The thought of buying cash flowing rental properties interests me. However, I'm from Long Island, NY and cash-flowing deals are very hard to find. I'm considering purchasing out of state but don't know which markets I should look out or how to find deals in said markets. I'm 20 years old and have about $105,000 outside of retirement that I'd love to do something with. However I lack the confidence and knowledge to get started. Any tips?


I'd start with househacking. If you plan on being in the area for awhile it's the best way to become a landlord. I'd also get creative on the rental strategy. Look into rent by the room, MTR, or STR to see if any of those work in your area.


 Thanks for this suggestion, I think maybe I'll speak to some agents in my area and see if there are any possible ideas for me to rent out a room while I move into a primary. 

Post: Looking to get into REI, starting with $140,000.

Erik R AhoPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Long Island, NY
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 14
Quote from @Bob Stevens:
Quote from @Erik R Aho:

The thought of buying cash flowing rental properties interests me. However, I'm from Long Island, NY and cash-flowing deals are very hard to find. I'm considering purchasing out of state but don't know which markets I should look out or how to find deals in said markets. I'm 20 years old and have about $105,000 outside of retirement that I'd love to do something with. However I lack the confidence and knowledge to get started. Any tips?

 I too am originally from LI . I started buying rentals in the OH markets about 10 years ago, great double digit net caps, 25- 30% NETS back then. I now live in FL and do all my biz in OH, still getting 15- 20% nets. I just locked up a duplex rented for 19k a year, all in 80k. SF all in 70k, rented for 1300 sec 8, Much better than LI. 


 Hey Bob, did you start by investing out of state, or were you in Ohio when you started buying?

Post: Looking to get into REI, starting with $140,000.

Erik R AhoPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Long Island, NY
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 14
Quote from @Travis Biziorek:

Erik, I'm big on investing in Detroit right now. I have 12-doors there personally and it's a great cash flow market with tons of BRRRR potential.

That said, given your age, are you sure this is the right path for you currently? I'd be looking in your own market (assuming you don't already own a primary) and finding something you can buy and live in that will appreciate aggressively. 

Everyone here will try and sell you something based on what you're describing. And I'm happy to talk about Detroit if you really are adamant about buying cash flowing rentals today. 

But I'd consider the alternative too.


 Thank you, yes I think a good idea is to get situated with a primary first and concentrate efforts there. I'm definitely in the early stages and just want to jump in and get started but I think rushing in could hurt me. 

Post: Looking to get into REI, starting with $140,000.

Erik R AhoPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Long Island, NY
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 14
Quote from @Travis Timmons:

1. Whatever allowed you to have $105k at 20, do more of that. Your primary focus right now should be maximizing your income and keeping expenses low. 

2. House hack in your appreciating market and forget the idea of cash flow hundreds of miles away. We all chase cash flow in the beginning only to own something long enough to watch it go up $100k+ in value. Once that happens, you figure out that cash flow can't touch appreciation. And the long term cash flow in appreciating markets is better bc the rents increase exponentially faster than in stagnant, cheap markets. Ask yourself, "Which property would I rather own in 10 years?" and let that guide your decision.

3. All of this is harder and takes longer than strangers on the internet make it seem. It's a long game. Slow and steady still wins the race. 

1- The reason I am looking more into scaling a real estate portfolio in comparison to my active income right now is because my active income isn't very scalable. I am a server/bartender and the only way to scale that is with more hours. But yes I do completely agree about income/expenses and really keeping an eye on that savings rate.

2- I've thought a little bit about this but haven't really considered it heavily because in my area, a duplex for example is about $700,000. Also I don't think I would qualify for a loan that high and even if I did I would be burdened with crazy high monthly mortgage payment even with a tenant paying rent. If maybe my income was a bit higher (I take home about $6,500 a month) it would be a more feasible option. Do you think it's wise to hypothetically save up a large down payment while also waiting for interest rates to decrease in order to make the move into a house-hack? Or do you think in 2 years my $200,000 down payment would've just been better in the stock market earning a historical average of 10% (With dividends reinvested, not adjusted for inflation). With the whole "rent vs buy dilemma" these are just some things I've been considering. Because right now I'm still living at home but don't want to be 2 or 3 years from now. Thank you for the pros of a house-hack on Long Island.

3. Yes, you're absolutely right, this isn't a quick way to make money I'm finding out. Thanks for the reply Travis.



Post: Looking to get into REI, starting with $140,000.

Erik R AhoPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Long Island, NY
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 14
Quote from @Michael Dumler:

@Erik R Aho, you'll need to leverage debt. As noted above, a non-QM loan product such as DSCR could be suitable if you don't have a W2 track record. However, before you do anything or speak with anyone, read "Long-Distance Real Estate Investing" by David Greene. I suppose house hacking isn't an option for you at this time? Everyone on this site will be pitching their markets. Make sure to verify all information and ideally speak with an experienced investor who acquires in the respective state before proceeding.

Hey Michael,
I read that book last summer, and it definitely got me thinking. I guess the road block is just finding the deals and some confidence/experience. What websites do investors use to help them find deals?