All Forum Posts by: Fahima Hilal

I fully understand what you are saying, however this was not relayed to the Architect at the onset when the documents were created, therefore it's a change. As mentioned, you should have had a Plumbing Engineer from start.  

Nevertheless, you've now added some more context to the issue in that you've paid two separate Architects and have issues with the Town which is beyond the scope of this thread, nor could anyone else know this was occurring. This is the driver for the tone of this tread. This is no longer an "Architect problem" per sae but a Town problem. Also, you are throwing the word Architect around a lot. If a licensed Architect is necessary, that could be the disconnect if your first "Architect" was not licensed. Just an idea.  

The options have been given. Choose one and go from there. All the best on your project.   

As many have attested to in this thread (Architects included), typically Architects do not do plumbing drawings. They are not experts in plumbing. If they do complete them, it's probably very basic, not taking what your contractor is now advising you into consideration. Therefore it's quite normal for a design change to be an additional service fee. 

Seems like you are just complaining about what you didn't understand from the beginning, in relaying what you wanted, but now expect it revised to. Two options- pay the Architect to make revisions or hire a Plumbing Engineer to create plumbing drawings. The latter will probably be more costly.  

As many have attested to in this thread (Architects included), typically Architects do not do plumbing drawings. They are not experts in plumbing. If they do complete them, it's probably very basic, not taking what your contractor is now advising you into consideration. Therefore it's quite normal for a design change to be an additional service fee. 

Seems like you are just complaining about what you didn't understand from the beginning, in relaying what you wanted, but now expect it revised to. Two options- pay the Architect to make revisions or hire a Plumbing Engineer to create plumbing drawings. The latter will probably be more costly.  

 So they should work for free?

 Demanding more money and refusing to do it are two different things. If separate water line services for each unit weren't part of your original scope of service, then they are justified in asking for additional payment to redo the plans. Why should they redraw them for free?

   We hire the architect for his expertise on the most efficient planning of the building. Drawing with one plumbing line for all 8 units and drawing a more efficient separate water lines to each unit is the same amount of work for him, just the former being wasteful for the long future as a landlord. And this architect is not cheap -we had to go to to him after paying another architect, just because the town  asked to. As an experienced architect it was his responsibility in the first plkace , to advice us to have the lines separated-My contractor pointed that out even its not his scope of work. 

@Fahima Hilal

Why is your architect refusing to do it? There has to be a reason why they will not do it ?