All Forum Posts by: Frederick William

Also, and I don't know the answer, but does that 2 people plus 1 apply to only adults since typically children aren't counted? If so, then the kids growing up doesn't really change things and you may not be able to enforce it. It would be good to get clarity on it since they are likely going to ask you.

You have to follow rent control, regardless of status.

When I spoke to the fire department about the number of people in a space, they said that there are rules in place (such as the 2 people per bedroom plus 1) but they were told not to enforce it. You need to call the City. 

In either case, because they were minors when they moved in, the previous owner probably didn't want to get it with family discrimination. 

Don't try to find a loophole in this. It will cost you in time, money, and reputation. There are plenty of organizations out there ready to attack owners. 

Took "Professor Google" all of 2 minutes to clearly clarify the CA rules & regulations in this matter: 

https://bornstein.law/immigration-status-in-rental-propertie...

California has ensconced laws that prohibit discrimination based on their immigration status or threaten them. Harassment, discrimination, and retaliation are not allowed.

The California Fair Employment and Housing Act (FEHA) states that immigration status cannot be used to deny housing or treat tenants differently. Civil Code Section 1940.3 silences landlords from disclosing a tenant’s immigration status to anyone, including government agencies, in an attempt to harass, intimidate, or retaliate against the tenant.

Moreover, California Civil Code Section 1942.5 protects tenants from misguided landlords threatening to report a tenant’s immigration status to authorities to coerce, evict, raise rents, or otherwise harass them.

Ok, let me preface this that I am an immigrant household and family. 

@Frederick William exemplifies the most vile and disgusting parts of human nature. And perfectly details how illegal immigration is BAD in a whole array of ways including to the illegal immigrants themselves, as a life of exploitation is NOT a life or system of any good. 

A life of exploitation harms the illegal immigrants, it harms the economy, and it harms the community via it's manufacture of poverty. 

And the statements popularized to just give away to illegals everything LEGAL immigrants spent years and thousands to EARN just makes the blood boil! 

It is NOT "just business" to look at such situation and salivate at the opportunity to use it as leverage to squeeze some more dollars from these people. It is no different than having a tenant whom you know is wanted for rape states away and thinking "oh, what if I tell him he's gotta pay me 20% more to keep my mouth shut, and oh, 40% more for a view of the next door school playground"..... It's vile, you are a bad person for even considering such.

There is things a person can do such as turn themselves in to ICE and request opportunity to go through the paperwork and steps to become LEGAL. Yes, that is a thing, always has been. 

I just can't believe people are so devoid of a soul that they look at a family packed into a 1br and think "oooh, how can I squeeze em for few more dollars".....  

And saying you inherited them is not an excuse. You accepted them as-is, there yours end of story, it's been more then enough time and you know full well the situation and are seeking to EXPLOIT it/them for profit. End of story. 

Lastly; before anyone wants to get all political with this maybe look up some facts as to who was named and remains the "Deporter in Chief". Deportation for illegal immigrants has been a thing for generations, nothing new, R, D, it's always been a thing and nearly every country the world round engages in doing the same. It's necessary to have order to things. Or else we get the kind of exploitation as championed by Fred.

 Sounds like you want to make a business decision but are hoping to get people on here to make you not feel guilty about it.

You wanna get them to pay more than the law allows you too? Ok, threaten to call ICE if they don't agree to pay more than the law allows. It's your biz man, you do you, but don't come on here crying about your feelings hoping strangers will make you feel better about it. Being a landlord is not for those that want hugs and kisses.

Then why did you buy the place knowing it was under RSO, and why did you fail to steadily increase the rent over the years as you were allowed to do? You created this and you kept it going.

There are so many wrong things throughout this thread

1. Renting to illegals. Why not rent to tax paying American Citizens for $1,000 a month. I am sure that there are many people in LA who would love to pay that.

2. Federal guidelines encourage 2 people per bedroom. 5 people is a disgrace. You are putting them in danger, you in danger, and the rest of your building in danger.

3. @Mike Day Would he be a Scumbag if he reported to the police that he is renting to a thief, murderer, escaped convict, or anyone else breaking the law? NO! He wouldn't! Actually, he could be brought up on charges for doing so and not informing the police. You should really think through your morals and not pick and choose what laws you want to follow. He should just get them out, period.

4. Someone who hasn't paid taxes for a decade should not be allowed rent control! End of story!

Ps. California has a “2+1 rule” meaning 2 adults per bedroom plus 1 extra adult. I don’t know if they’re breaking the law or you are. But I’m sure you’d be held responsible if something happened because of illegal overcrowding in a property you owned. 

I think it's pretty simple. You have to obey the rent control laws. If you threaten to report them if they don't sign a higher lease, you are being a scumbag