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All Forum Posts by: Genny Li

Genny Li has started 21 posts and replied 422 times.

Post: Question about Loan Payment when my loan was sold

Genny LiPosted
  • Baltimore, MD
  • Posts 431
  • Votes 281

I've had this happen and just told my mortgage company that I didn't even know who they were, so how could I pay them? Late fees were waived.

Post: Getting my wife on board

Genny LiPosted
  • Baltimore, MD
  • Posts 431
  • Votes 281
Originally posted by @Christopher Abele:

@Robert Wright

Your plight was brought to my attention by a fellow investor who knows my story.

My wife and I are Christians and she works at our church. She too believed that debt is bad.

First, the Old Testament does speak to debt, however not on the side of incurring it. It speaks to charging interest to others who are in need. (IE: don’t take advantage of a person who is in need.) NOWHERE in the Bible does it say not to use debt.

It also speaks to the behaviors of a woman of virtue in Proverbs 31. (She appraised a field and buys it; out of her earnings she plants a vineyard.) I recommend you tread lightly with this one, though.

Things that might help:

1.) Get your financial house in order first. Work together through this. Monthly, review your savings, income, and where your money went. Treat your house like a business and have a monthly review at minimum.

2.) Define your goals. After you start working through 1 on a regular basis you’ll know what your monthly costs are. Work together to define a safety net. 6 months is a good place.

3.) Pay down existing debt - notably the student loans. Right now you’re paying interest on your money. You will absolutely struggle to get your wife on board because to her it means more debt (bad!!)

4.) Living beneath your means will eventually become habit. You’ll say things like “we can’t afford that.” There will come a tipping point where discipline is needed. Notably, when “we can’t afford it” really means “we can’t afford to stop our trajectory.”

5.) There will come a point when it will feel like savings isn’t growing quickly. At first, saving $100 a week adds up, but you’ll eventually hit a point where that $100 is a really small percent of your “nut.”

6.) If you’ve continued to educate yourself on real estate throughout this whole process and talk about it, you’ll find yourself in a position to say “now what” but you’ll have already answered that.

7.) The first turning point for us was when we went on vacation and drove there. My wife and I traded an hour of listening time. Her music for an hour then my choice for an hour, on the road there and on the road back. (Yup, I got my wife to listen to almost 12 hours of BP podcasts.)

8.) Does your wife believe that landlords are greedy people who get rich off the backs of others? Mine did. Did. Past Tense.

When we bought the house, the woman who lived there had flashlights EVERYWHERE. She couldn’t get up a step to change the lightbulbs. She didn’t have money to fix the roof. The wood siding was starting to rot. She couldn’t fix the house and couldn’t afford to fix it. I will tell you, closing was painful and stressful for me (trying to work with her) but a lot of it was “she has a problem, how can I be the one to help solve it?”

So, we buy the house. I was there 5 days a week on top of a W2 job. I was there at 6:00 AM on Saturday and leaving at 11:00 PM.

I talked to the neighbors regularly. They said things like, “You’re here ALL THE TIME.” “Thank you for turning that turd into a gem.”

My business model is to FIGHT against the greedy slumlords. It’s to make sure we’re giving back to the neighborhood. It’s to properly manage my property and ensure that my tenants are not hurting property values from home owners in the neighborhood.

When listed, I had over 150 people contact me to rent it in less than 4 days. That rent money isn’t going to an out of state investor or company that doesn’t care about the community. It’s staying in my home town.

Now, we did this all in cash initially. It’s been less than 6 months since purchase and my wife asked, “how do we do this again?” At this point we have enough equity that we can pull cash out and do it all over. It’s not about the house; it’s about the people.

We can find someone who can’t take care of their place. We can give them a fair price for their problem home before it’s worthless. We can put a ton of work into it and give back to the neighbors by helping their property values. We can provide housing for someone who can’t afford to buy or for whom buying doesn’t make sense. We’re not getting fat by being lazy; we’re doing the work ourselves. We’re appraising a field, buying it, and planting a vineyard that will hopefully provide for our children and grandchildren.

Happy to talk 1 on 1 if you would like. Good luck in your journey!

 Sorry, but this is inaccurate. Bible says a lot of things about debt: 

Proverbs 6:1-5: My son, if you have put up security for your neighbor, if you have struck hands in pledge with a stranger, if you have been trapped by the words of your lips, ensnared by the words of your mouth, then do this, my son, to free yourself, for you have fallen into your neighbor’s hands: Go, humble yourself, and press your plea with your neighbor. Allow no sleep to your eyes or slumber to your eyelids. Free yourself, like a gazelle from the hand of the hunter, like a bird from the snare of the fowler.

Proverbs 11:15: Whoever puts up security for a stranger will surely suffer harm, but he who hates striking hands in pledge is secure.

Proverbs 17:18: One who lacks sense gives a pledge and puts up security in the presence of his neighbor.

Proverbs 22:26: Be not one of those who give pledges, who put up security for debts.

These say 1) don't risk too much with loans requiring collateral and 2) don't get a loan with a sketchy dude because you're going to get caught holding the bag.

Romans 13:8, too:  Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law.

This warns against debt that incurs an outstanding obligation. Not so much an obligation that comes and is met regularly.

Finally, Psalm 37:21: The wicked borrow and do not repay, but the righteous are gracious and giving.

Don't be a dirtbag and dump on someone else.

I'm glad you're doing well, though, and I'm glad your relationship is blossoming around this! But READ YOUR BIBLE. You should have already know these!

Post: Getting my wife on board

Genny LiPosted
  • Baltimore, MD
  • Posts 431
  • Votes 281
Originally posted by @Robert Wright:

I have tried reading sections verbatim from various financial and real estate books. An intellectual argument always fails. I make a lot of money, but I also have a lot of student loan debt. Initially She made me agree that I wouldn’t try to do any real estate investing until my student loan debt was paid off. That likely won’t happen for about 3-4 more years. I just feel bad sitting around and I have serious FOMO. 

 I was with you until you said you still had considerable loan debt.  You don't look like a baby-faced 22-year-old, so I would say that she has a reason to think that your optimism is too high.  Either there will be a crash or some massive inflation soon.  Either way, there should be good opportunities when things settle out to a new normal.

I was on your side until you said that you had considerable student loan debt. t

Post: How long did it take you to become financially independent?

Genny LiPosted
  • Baltimore, MD
  • Posts 431
  • Votes 281

No. It's not. Shills make money selling the dream of "financial independence," concealing the fact that they make a lot of their money selling the dread of "financial independence." They encourage people to quit their jobs when they have nothing but miserable poverty existence incomes and don't have enough cashflow for additional downpayments for new properties or to keep them from going hungry if they get hit by a new capex expense.

$100k a year NET passive income from your properties is still not much to live on. You think it is, but are you still trying to grow your portfolio? That's $25-35k per year there. Paying your own health insurance, etc?  You're shut off from 401k contributions as soon as you stop your active income job, too!  Work benefits add more than you think in value.  Will you still owe on your own house?

It is normal for the upstairs to be hotter. Hot air expands and rises.  You should close vents on the bottom floor in the summer and open top ones in the winter and vice versa in the winter.

Post: 33 Year Old First Time Home Buyer Needs HELP!

Genny LiPosted
  • Baltimore, MD
  • Posts 431
  • Votes 281

In NY, there are a lot of basements. I'd just get a SFH with a walkout basement and house-hack the basement. Way cheaper than a duplex.

Post: Temple off campus housing

Genny LiPosted
  • Baltimore, MD
  • Posts 431
  • Votes 281

I know nothing of Philly, but I know student rentals. Parents often buy houses and keep them for 4 years and then dump when junior graduates.  The cosmetics are usually decent because mommy wants baby to be in a nice place, but there is often problems with old mechanicals, aging roofs, etc.

Student rentals are its own art. You'll get lost kids texting you when they can't find the place (despite Google maps) and when they clog the toilet. The ROI can be high, but they need handholding a whole lot more than normal tenants. And you want to exclude partiers.

Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:

@Owen Thornton if you are shopping $100K duplex, you are looking at D class properties or very rural. The cash flow will appear higher because the risk is much higher. These type of properties are management intense, so you earn your cash flow. You may also realistically need to plug in higher numbers for CAPEX and repairs because the properties are likely not updated and the type of tenant who rents will be harder on the property.

 I got nosey and looked on Zillow.  This is what I found within a few hours of Charlotte under $150k:

https://www.zillow.com/homedet... 2 studio apartments, and you have all the capex of a duplex? Hard no.

https://www.zillow.com/homedet... Vacant and uninhabitable. Noooooo.

https://www.zillow.com/homedet... Triplex with new roof and windows, but it's been on the market 188 days. I'm really afraid that the inside is hiding something horrifying, like major structural damage, but I'd look at it. Pie in the sky chance of it not containing horrors.

https://www.zillow.com/homedet... A not-so-great house plus an oooold but clean and updated manufactured home, which is basically free. Still, no thanks. 

 https://www.zillow.com/homedet... I have an irrational love for old houses, but this looks like a lot of work for me. There's no central heat, only resistance baseboard, so you're going to have a hard time keeping renters with how high the utilities will be.

https://www.zillow.com/homedet... 5 trailer trailer park. For the land? For the trailers, too? Who knows?

https://www.zillow.com/homedet... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

 https://www.zillow.com/homedet... A package deal on 4 white elephants! A flipper might like this, but those roofs tell me that there are nightmares inside.

Originally posted by @Jeff Lewis:

MHPs can get up in the 40% range in repairs/maintenance for park owned units. Especially higher cap older parks. 

 That is...depressing.  I have this weird hobby of watching singlewide BRRRs (people do this--without the refi bit, so one fewer Rs), but I've always wondered how much money they make in the end.

Post: Difference Rental: Bedroom vs. Unit

Genny LiPosted
  • Baltimore, MD
  • Posts 431
  • Votes 281
Originally posted by @Collin Miles:

Thank you very much @Genny Li ! This is great news

 I would check your specific county's ordinances just to be sure, but in all 3 counties that I've checked, a unit is defined as having a "complete kitchen", which means that tons of people get around it by making units with separate entrances and hot plates, microwaves, and really big toaster ovens. :P And then you just have a boarder not a tenant, too, if you live in the main house, which means they're easier to get rid of, too.  There are restrictions over how you are permitted to charge for utilities if the units can't be split. In Baltimore city itself, you can't charge for a utility if you can't meter it for each unit--that has to be included in the cost of rent. Not sure about other ones.