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All Forum Posts by: Genny Li

Genny Li has started 21 posts and replied 422 times.

Originally posted by @Jesus Roman:

Hey @Alex Bush! My advise is that if your looking to house more than 2 people that arent related to you to just look for investment properties in a neighborhood with no HOA. You also have to keep in mind HOA's can add and remove restrictions at anytime, so if your looking to rent out by that many rooms staying away from them is for best. I personally house hack my current home which is a 3/2 here in Missouri City with two buddies and I have no problems at all.

 He isn't planning on living there and having roommates.  He's planning on running a rooming house.

Originally posted by @Alex Bush:
Originally posted by @Genny Li:
Originally posted by @Alex Bush:
Originally posted by @Genny Li:

That is correct in most places, not just in Texas but in other states, in my experience. You have to find the right location. 

Start with the "unrelated adults rule". In some places, it's 2. In some, though, it's as high as four. It just takes hunting. I rent to students so obviously have the same challenges. I own a unit that is in the middle of college student apartments and condos, so it's fine there. If I tried that in one of the non-college neighborhoods, it would be pitchforks and torches. Lol. 

Yea, that's what I started to do - go through HOA rules for each prospective house I want to buy. So far no luck unfortunately. Do you have any recommendations on how do this kind of research more efficiently? It's very hard to get those rules PDF docs and many HOAs don't even have a website and leave a phone number. For some I can't even find a phone number ....

 I'm afraid not. With absolutely no disrespect, when you rent by the room, you're basically running an unattended rooming house with a full kitchen. This tends to work when you have a specific clientele (students, midterm professionals, etc) or in places with insane rent prices.  I wouldn't personally choose this model in Houston, as a more down-market clientele would be more expected since rents aren't that bad and with them comes the kinds of problems that you don't want in an unattended rooming house.  Even Austin would be better.  What exactly is your model there? 

>I'm afraid not. With absolutely no disrespect, when you rent by the room, you're basically running an unattended rooming house with a full kitchen. This tends to work when you have a specific clientele (students, midterm professionals, etc) or in places with insane rent prices.

What's wrong with it? It is of course would be more work to manage, I understand that. 

>I wouldn't personally choose this model in Houston, as a more down-market clientele would be more expected since rents aren't that bad and with them comes the kinds of problems that you don't want in an unattended rooming house. Even Austin would be better. What exactly is your model there?

The problem is I can't find anything decent that would cash flow positively in this market. Average math turns out like this - ~$250k single family house, $1900/month average rent. This is not a sound investment to make as it would not cash flow positively (with property management company, reserves for repairs and vacancy, etc.). The criteria I have for searching for a house is more or less good condition, good neighborhood, and houses no older then 20 years old. These criteria due to my personal constraints on time (I have a demanding full time job as many of us do) and on connections/team/expertise(I'm not an expert at rehabs nor do I have a team for this yet).

So given all of that I am researching on other clever ways of hacking the situation and conditions I'm in to still come out ahed so splitting houses I purchase up into multiple "doors" by renting by the room is a natural conclusion. I am a "techie" and I am targeting other "techie" clientele - i.e. people who need a quiet place to work remotely (with great internet speed) or who are in the beginning of their IT/desk-professional-job career and need an affordable furnished place for a few months/years. Another group I'm considering target is traveling nurses. I very much do not care for turning this into semi-section-8 type of housing. And this is how I started to wonder about all of those stories of wonderful returns renting by the room.

 What's wrong with it is that you have a massive, massive liability case if one of your tenants kills and eats another. Or lets their meth-head friend crash for the night and their pimp comes by and they end up stabbing each other.

No, SFHs don't make one lick of sense to buy as rentals in Houston right now.  They almost never make any sense to keep as rentals. SGFHs are terrible, terrible cashflow investments, and if you're making money on them, it's often because people are neglecting capex and the house is rotting or it's paid off any they just don't have the sense to realize that there are so many better investments than keeping the money in a house.  Some serious rehabbers can make money on SFHs, but they're almost contractors who have a side-hustle as landlords, and even they tend to sell the houses whenever the prices are great.

So you've revealed that you actually don't have a business model that makes sense for the Houston market.  You have no demand but want to make the supply because you think it'll make more money.  Stop looking at SFHs and start looking at 2-4 units. That's the sweet spot for most individual investors, money-wise.

Post: Does no one replace their water heater anode rods?

Genny LiPosted
  • Baltimore, MD
  • Posts 431
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Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:

Keep in mind two things:

1. Not all water heaters have an anode. Rheem Marathon do not have anodes. The tank is plastic and they have a life time warranty on the tank. They can last 40 years or more. I have a Marathon 80 gallon electric in my home. 

2. Another consideration is draining sediment from the tank yearly. Sediment can be especially damaging to gas water heaters. The sediment traps the heat from the burner and it can cause the tank to crack/leak. Gas water heater instruction manuals recommend draining yearly. 

In my experience a water heater can last 7-30 years. Newer ones are on the shorter end of the life span. Electric have a longer life, but cost more to operate monthly than natural gas. Electric tanks are also usually bigger than gas counterparts because of slower recovery time. The other advantage of gas is they operate when electricity is lost. In new construction, I would do electric, but most my houses are gas.

 Yes, I have an indirect water heater with a glass liner in my own house now! Lifetime warranty.  Of course, now I want to ditch my oil-fired boiler and replace it because it's not saving me jack now that I'm on geothermal for AC and heating.  Derp.

The condo is all electric and is in a soft water area, so there is very little sediment, but I figure I'll drain it completely when I change the rod this summer.  2 birds, 1 stone, and the neighbors will think I'm insane with a hose sticking out of the window....

The electric tank is actually tiny, and access is going to be very interesting, because it is partly UNDER the air handler, and you have to take out the dryer to get to it.  I am really, really hoping I can access the anode.  I need to take out the dryer anyway because I suspect that the dryer vent has never been cleaned, and it runs 25' feet, so it's not one of those through-the-wall ones you don't really have to worry about.

I figure I'm going to have an afternoon routine once every five years of pulling out the dryer, draining the WH, snaking the dryer vent, replacing the anode, and putting everything back again.

Post: Does no one replace their water heater anode rods?

Genny LiPosted
  • Baltimore, MD
  • Posts 431
  • Votes 281
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:
Originally posted by @Jim K.:

@Genny Li

Most plumbers don't even replace the anode. Makes little financial sense for them. Have you actually done it? Depending on the water heater's placement and whether the anode is jointed, it can be a real pain/usually is a real pain.

Have you ever replaced a water heater?

Heck I buy a new car when i need new tires.. so no I would just buy a new water heater  LOL..  

My last car was 16 years old when my 16-year-old totaled it. lol.

Post: Does no one replace their water heater anode rods?

Genny LiPosted
  • Baltimore, MD
  • Posts 431
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Originally posted by @Account Closed:

I've done maintenance and would gladly take the preventatives like changing an anode rod instead of fielding calls for toilet clogs and pulling dentures out of disposals! But that's someone else signing my check. 

As I homeowner I would gladly do it knowing that the best place to hide is behind a water heater, come out smelling like sulfur and earn myself a free Saturday to spend in the garage. I wouldn't make it a priority though. 

If it's a flip house, it would be getting a new WH, used for two years and moving out before the warranty ends.

Interesting question, the more I think about it. Totally understand your point and the logic behind it, but I don't see the financial gain, or the longevity in our disposable manufacturing environment we currently live in. 

$150 for the furnace seems like a great deal until it's broken down. I assume if any actual repairs come up those are out of pocket? And they almost always find something that needs to be repaired?! 

If I tap into the mentality of my paycheck to paycheck millennial counterparts, and assume that stoves and dryers will still last forever: 

 The $150 is just a per year service fee, and it doesn't really "prevent" anything, in my experience, and it's not a guarantee.  They almost never find anything to be repaired.  Look at the checklist they provide you for everything that they do.  I can spray the compressor clean every 5 years since the powerwashing dudes helpfully told me how to access the water at the condo myself--there's really no reason to even do that yearly if I hired someone.  It just ain't worth the money.

For heat, I've had:

  • Electric baseboard heat
  • A pallet stove
  • A woodstove
  • Furnace forced air
  • Geothermal
  • Hydronic baseboard with oil-fired boiler
  • Air-source heat pump

Not in any of these did a $150 tune up end up making sense. (Obviously, there's no tune up possible for the electric baseboard, but still...)

For AC I've had:

  • Swamp cooler
  • Conventional AC
  • Geothermal

Again, in none of those does a tune up end up doing anything to save me enough money that it's worth it.  It doesn't keep my AC from going out because it sprang a coolant leak or because the compressor motor blew up.  It just doesn't help.

Originally posted by @Jim K.:

Hey, I bought the duplex I live in for $45K cash, as I've often crowed about here on BP.  Took me forever to get it liveable, but I rent out the top unit for $930/month and live downstairs. For my cheap little heart, nothing is better than living free. Is it in a D-class neighborhood? No, it's a solid C-, in my book. A busboy named Da'Shawn got blown away in the back alley trudging home from work two years ago (the makeshift memorial really brightens up the block) and the convenience store down the main drag did have that drive-by three years ago...the clerk (who I know) heard the shots, then a guy stumbled in covered in blood.and screaming, "Dey shot mah baby!" So it turns out his pregnant woman was in the car with him and my friend the clerk didn't know if he meant that it was the woman or her baby inside her that got shot.

But I digress...cheap duplexes under $100K do exist, at least in some less-than-savory areas of our fine metropolis.

 You're good at fixing stuff up, though.  If you're a baby at renos without a lot of construction experience, I wouldn't touch most of those, though some are more personal taste--I might be interested in a 20-unit MHP, but a 5-unit really doesn't make sense to me unless the MHs come with it.

If you're a patient person who is willing to learn to do things right, and especially if you can live right next to the place you're renting out, sure.  But I was assuming this guy has a FT job in Charlotte itself and would have to drive out to these places to be able to deal with them!

The really old house actually does have a lot of potential for someone who can either run hydronic baseboard or do ductwork and drywall (depending on whether gas is available or just oil).  I'm just kinda burned out on old places, and again, that's not something you want to do when you live hours away.  As soon as you start doing anything, you're going to find 5 other things to fix.

Those four houses could also be really good for a flipper, depending on how much water damage from the failing roofs that they have.  But I would not touch them for a rental.

I personally have a soft spot for rundown fourplexes built after 1975. lol.  They're kinda the sweet spot of "already insulated, have ductwork for heat if not AC, windows are not completely failing and rotting out the house" for me, and they're the most available MFHs in where I invest.  You can get each unit for less than $50k sometimes, so I guess that's in the same ballpark as a $100k duplex!  The nasty ones are usually renting for $550-$650, with no central AC.  Market rent for non-nasty rentals is more like $800, but you need AC.

Post: A Trashy Situation featuring my next door neighbor

Genny LiPosted
  • Baltimore, MD
  • Posts 431
  • Votes 281
Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:

@Marshall Henry although it wasn't your intent, you created this problem. You took something the previous owner had done and changed it. You also handed out your phone number to use as a complaint line. I think you have three options:

1. Go back to the 90 gallon cans and train your tenants to bring out trash before garbage day. 

2. Tell him, sorry bud that dumpster isn't going anywhere. If you see it moved, move it back. 

3. Look for some option to help like putting up a small section of fence to obscure view.

My best advice is don't keep texting. Ask to talk about it face to face. People like to hide behind texting. If you can get face to face, maybe you can work it out. For what it is worth, I didn't consider his texts threatening. You may be overreacting a little bit. I wouldn't want a dumpster by my door either. Unfortunately if you are within code and city says it can be there, then there is nothing he can do. Tell him to contact the city if he has an issue. That won't do anything, but it pushes the problem to someone else.

When I purchase my first properties, I introduced myself to the neighbors. I thought it was smart, but half the time it just leads to complaints. Now I don't initiate any type of introduction. 

 I introduced myself to the other LANDLORDS. loool.  (It's all investor-owned.)

Post: A Trashy Situation featuring my next door neighbor

Genny LiPosted
  • Baltimore, MD
  • Posts 431
  • Votes 281
Originally posted by @Marshall Henry:

@Genny Li thanks for your reply. I’ll post a picture ASAP.

I could do two per unit. That would be $100 more in cost.

Some context: I disagreed with this logic because it is not any closer to his house than it is to mine. Also this is a back ally way (behind the properties on our street and behind the properties on the next street over if that makes sense) dedicated for trash pick up. There are dumpsters and trash bin all over this ally way (including his) because this is the ally the trucks use. 
I assume the reason for this is so that people do not have their trash bins in the front of their properties. 
Also if this is considered next to his property, then the bins are going to be next to the other neighbors’ property and off of my property completely because that’s where they were when I moved in. The trash was over flowing our first day in. That’s just from both tenants. I couldn’t imagine what it would look like with our trash added. 

However most of all, and probably my biggest frustration, he saw me earlier that day, we had a conversation. I saw him the day before, I said hello. Neither time did he bring up the issue with me. He chose to send a threatening texts. I think that’s absolute lack of respect. 

Some people don't communicate in person that well.  But that's why I said a picture is worth 1000 words. I can't tell how reasonable he is being just from the description!

Post: Sell Or Hold My BRRRR?

Genny LiPosted
  • Baltimore, MD
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I would never manage a SFH for $330/mo. Too much work. A fourplex has barely more work and should cash flow at least as much per unit.

Post: Question about fully occupied 4-plex

Genny LiPosted
  • Baltimore, MD
  • Posts 431
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Do you plan to DIY or to hire out the rehabbing? How fast do you want to BRRRR? I'm a more slow paced DIY sort, so I'd just raise the rent by $75 per year until they leave and I can rehab it to a shape where it's really worth the $1250 and then would rent the remodeled unit at market rent.