Skip to content
×
Pro Members Get
Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
ANNUAL Save 16%
$32.50 /mo
$390 billed annualy
MONTHLY
$39 /mo
billed monthly
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
×
Try Pro Features for Free
Start your 7 day free trial. Pick markets, find deals, analyze and manage properties.
All Forum Categories
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

All Forum Posts by: Olivier Mader

Olivier Mader has started 10 posts and replied 105 times.

Post: Some before and after photos of my current project..

Olivier MaderPosted
  • Investor
  • Lakeland, FL
  • Posts 105
  • Votes 61
Originally posted by @Richard Sherman:
Originally posted by @Olivier Mader:
Originally posted by @Richard Sherman:
Originally posted by @Olivier Mader:
Originally posted by @Dean H.:

Great job. I love these type projects but I follow the " why eat lamb today when you can sell wool for years" idea and keep them for rentals.

Again, GREAT JOB

 I have been a landlord for years and was actually thinking of doing the Home flipping/landlord thing full time as I created a big enough capital base so that I don't need my job...  However, once I stop working my regular job, I will have to pay almost 40% in taxes on rental income due to the changes in Tax reform to make rental income subject to Self Employment taxes. If my tax rate is 25%, my rental income will now be taxed at 40%.. I don't want to give almost half to Uncle Sapoom.. If I flip it's either 20 - 25% (my regular tax rate) or 15% for long term capital gains if I hold the house over a year.. I refuse to pay over 25% on anything.. My tax rate is low as I have 2 little kids and my wife does not work... If I was single I would be in a much higher tax bracket..

Wouldnt you be able to just put all your rentals into a LLC (or even a Partnership with your spouse etc which would give you a K1?) Then as a pass through entity your income would be 20% Fed?

 I can't incorporate due to my day job.. I work for a major financial institution which also has many foreclosures and any outside business has to be approved by them. If they find out without getting approval, I will get fired and would lose a 6 figure severance package..

And I assume they wouldn't approve it? That sucks. Even a simple single member LLC would allow for the income to be taxed at the new lower Fed rate

I can only do that once I'm laid off. I would like to get laid off to work full time on properties but I don't want to lose my severance package, so I can't quit or get fired.. I may incorporate after I get laid off. However, there are problems with incorporating. As a private person owning property, in the State of Florida, I do not need a contractors license to work on my homes as long as I pull permits where applicable. Once the home is owned by my corporation, I can't legally pull permits anymote. I would need a licensed contractor and that would get too expensive. I do 99% of all work myself. What I may end up doing is to buy the property as a private person, remodel it and then quit claim it to the LLC and rent it via the LLC.

Post: Some before and after photos of my current project..

Olivier MaderPosted
  • Investor
  • Lakeland, FL
  • Posts 105
  • Votes 61
Originally posted by @Richard Sherman:
Originally posted by @Olivier Mader:
Originally posted by @Dean H.:

Great job. I love these type projects but I follow the " why eat lamb today when you can sell wool for years" idea and keep them for rentals.

Again, GREAT JOB

 I have been a landlord for years and was actually thinking of doing the Home flipping/landlord thing full time as I created a big enough capital base so that I don't need my job...  However, once I stop working my regular job, I will have to pay almost 40% in taxes on rental income due to the changes in Tax reform to make rental income subject to Self Employment taxes. If my tax rate is 25%, my rental income will now be taxed at 40%.. I don't want to give almost half to Uncle Sam.. If I flip it's either 20 - 25% (my regular tax rate) or 15% for long term capital gains if I hold the house over a year.. I refuse to pay over 25% on anything.. My tax rate is low as I have 2 little kids and my wife does not work... If I was single I would be in a much higher tax bracket..

Wouldnt you be able to just put all your rentals into a LLC (or even a Partnership with your spouse etc which would give you a K1?) Then as a pass through entity your income would be 20% Fed?

 I can't incorporate due to my day job.. I work for a major financial institution which also has many foreclosures and any outside business has to be approved by them. If they find out without getting approval, I will get fired and would lose a 6 figure severance package..

Post: Some before and after photos of my current project..

Olivier MaderPosted
  • Investor
  • Lakeland, FL
  • Posts 105
  • Votes 61
Originally posted by @Ned J.:

Apparently you LOVE to do tile work :)....that's a LOT of tile..... looks nice..good job

 As I often rent out, I prefer as renters are often pigs and tile cleans easier than carpet..

Post: Getting rid of the cat smells

Olivier MaderPosted
  • Investor
  • Lakeland, FL
  • Posts 105
  • Votes 61

I once owned a house with such smell..They had dogs and cats. Got a great deal on it. I replaced all carpet with tile and painted all walls and ceiling and the smell was gone.. Sold the house after a few months with $60k profit.. Spent less than $2k for tile and paint..

Post: Some before and after photos of my current project..

Olivier MaderPosted
  • Investor
  • Lakeland, FL
  • Posts 105
  • Votes 61
Originally posted by @Alvin Sharp Jr.:

Amazing job with the rehab! I'm starting a (much smaller) DIY rehab on my 1st property. I may steal some of your design ideas for myself, hope you don't mind lol

Thanks! Feel free to copy any of my designs! 

Post: Some before and after photos of my current project..

Olivier MaderPosted
  • Investor
  • Lakeland, FL
  • Posts 105
  • Votes 61
Originally posted by @Zain B.:

@Olivier Mader great rehab. Are those travertine tiles on the bathroom wall (looks good) and the numbers are great man.  

 They are travertine look ceramic tiles..

Post: Some before and after photos of my current project..

Olivier MaderPosted
  • Investor
  • Lakeland, FL
  • Posts 105
  • Votes 61
Originally posted by @Gus Ross:

@Olivier Mader the assumption on tax reform seems premature, the bill hasn't been confirmed yet in its final state.  I'd be interested to compare transaction costs versus the tax benefits of depreciation etc.  

You did a marvelous job on the renovation but the justification for the flip seems a bit preemptive on the basis that tax reform implications haven't been finalized.  

Best of luck!

I can still rent it if the bill does not pass.. I probably will. I'm currently working a full time job and do the home flipping/landlord thing on the side but I expect to be laid off at work soon as the system I'm working off will eventually be replaced.. I won't leave on my own as I've been with the company for 14 years and if I quit, I lose my severance package which would be over $100k... Those $100k would come in handy when investing in Real Estate.. Once I'm full time investor, I certainly would have to pay that tax on rental income if tax reform passes. Right now, it very much looks like it will pass :-(

Post: Some before and after photos of my current project..

Olivier MaderPosted
  • Investor
  • Lakeland, FL
  • Posts 105
  • Votes 61
Originally posted by @Mindy Jensen:

Wow, @Olivier Mader . Every time I think I see the ugliest "before" house, BiggerPockets Members prove me wrong. Nice job. 

 Thanks.. The house was scary looking but was structurally 100% sound.. I actually own the house across the street from it too which was built by the same builder.. Dimensional wood and not plywood on the roof. all block construction with zero cracks anywhere (unusual for a home built in 1969) (except for addition which is wood frame). It really does not matter if the house I'm working on is a little bit bad or very bad. I usually tear out everything anyways and rebuild. I even change out every single outlet and switch and replace them with nice square outlets and switches.. I remodel every home like it was my own..

Post: Some before and after photos of my current project..

Olivier MaderPosted
  • Investor
  • Lakeland, FL
  • Posts 105
  • Votes 61
Originally posted by @Amauris Lora:

 Not my primary.. I bought it as a rental but due to tax reform likely passing, I will flip the house instead.. Tax reform adds additional 15.2 percent in taxes on rental income, bringing the effective rate to 40 percent tax on my rental income.. That is too much.. I rather flip and pay 15 percent capital gains tax..

So what’s the next move anyone can do to keep doing the rental business because I know that the new reform go to affect the rent profit but something have to be able for do

 Many Landlords only rent homes for minimal profit, so the new tax won't hurt them too much.. They only rent the homes until  the property values rise and then they sell the properties. 

I have no mortgage on my rentals. I therefore have no property insurance. I do most of the maintenance myself too. My write-offs for tax purposes are minimal. 90% of my rent is profit. Most landlords have a much lower profit margin.

Post: Some before and after photos of my current project..

Olivier MaderPosted
  • Investor
  • Lakeland, FL
  • Posts 105
  • Votes 61

Here are the numbers: 

Purchase Price: $45100 (pre-Auction bid on Auction.com)

Rehab costs (so far): approx. $22000. Expect to spend another $3k to $5k until the house is done

Resale value: $175k to $185k based on comps..

If I was going to rent it, it would rent for about $1400 per month which is a reasonable rent for a 4/2/2 home in the area..