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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 8 posts and replied 3607 times.

Post: Newbie question about cap rates in Ottawa

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Originally posted by @Harrison D.:

@Brad Dillman I'm not sure about general cap rates, but I know it's hard finding high cap rates/good cash flowing properties in Ottawa right now. 

One thing I look for is cash flow/cap rate after the best usage of the property, 

And can you show Brad and me exactly how you determine cap rates? 

Post: Buying and holding at market value??

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Originally posted by @Matt Geerts:

@Tina D.

   The rent will be nearly the same across town in house that costs half as much.

I don't know specifically the neighborhood you're talking about, but this is a general observation from my analyses. 

Good luck!

I doubt the gap in value from good to bad areas will be 50% for the same rents.  At least it has not been in my experience.  Now the rent may not be twice as much for a property worth double but because of the demand you will probably see less vacancy and less wear and tear and probably the more expensive property will actually be smaller so any expense based of sf will be less for the most expensive property.  As I stated earlier rent to price ratio is a meaningless metric.  More than likely the better property will be more profitable.

Post: Property Value

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Direct sales comparison is the best way to value any property.  What are other similar 3plexes selling for.  Then you can always break it down by $ per sf, $ per unit, $ per bedroom, etc. 

If there are sales of sales of similar units and you know your market rents then it is easy to use a GRM that other properties have at.

Post: San Diego (and other CA beach areas) Vacation Rental

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Originally posted by @Melissa Nash:

I just messaged you.  I just sold a home to an investor that is set up as a vacation rental. He is getting over 9% cap rate. Which is unheard of for CA properties. 

Melissa

Geez Melissa where are you getting these numbers?  You don't "get" an over 9% cap rate!  And on a single family home?  Laughable!  Sounds like you have no clue what you are talking about or you are trying to scam the OP.  

BP is full of scammers.  Buyers beware. 

Post: Analyzing an out of area deal?

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Post: Property Value

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Originally posted by @Cesar Torres:

Using a Gross Rent Multiplier of 5 it would be 252k. However GRMs can range depending on the area and are a rough rough ballpark estimate not very reliable. It is better to use cap rates.

 Where on earth would you get reliable cap rate comps?  Forget cap rates.  They are only used by someone trying to sell crap to novices.

Post: Newbie question about cap rates in Ottawa

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Just like $ per sf in a market the market cap rate for similar properties will be a very small range.  But there is no reliable source of cap rates for small multi's so forget trying to figure cap rates.

Direct sales comparison is the best way to value these properties. If you want a check using the income approach use a GRM.

Post: Best Northern CO Cities for Rental ROI

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Originally posted by @Benjamin Wishart:

Bob, my intent with this post is not to analyze deals, but to get feedback on rental returns relative to cities in my area. That is why I am using ballpark numbers. I fully realize that a difference of a couple percent in a Cap rate makes a huge difference. If I determine that one city has an average return that is 2% higher than another, I will focus my time and energy on that city. 

Thanks for your input, but I don't see that you are really answering the question I asked. 

Your question and analysis is flawed.  "Returns"?  How the heck are you measuring them?  Do you want a PROFITABLE market.  SF, NYC, LA or Honolulu are the place you want to be.  For profit you want rising rents and appreciation.   

Post: Buying and holding at market value??

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Originally posted by @Ben Leybovich:
Originally posted by @Tina D.:
Originally posted by @Ben Leybovich:

I see what you are saying. What types of areas should I be looking at for CF generation?

 That's a million dollar question :)

 Nah!  I'll sell it for $10.00  For cash flow look for rent growth.  For profitability look for appreciation.  Guess what?  Appreciation markets usually have higher rent growth.  Send yer $10,00 to your animal rescue.

So Tina, what did Hyde Park properties rent/sell for 10 years ago, 20, 30? 

Post: Buying and holding at market value??

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Originally posted by @Thomas S.:

  If you fully understand expenses, which most do not, and you have the proper rent to purchase price ratio then the numbers are all the matter.

I have to say there is no "proper" rent to purchase price ratio.  You should see the rent growth and appreciation to determine profitability.

Also dead equity is definitely something that needs to be accounted for but you also have to determine WHERE that equity is coming from.  If it is your down payment and the mortgage paydown  then it is bought equity and should be earning its keep as @Greg S. says.   But if it is appreciation equity then it is a part of profit and has already earned its keep.