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All Forum Posts by: Mergim Kacija

Mergim Kacija has started 3 posts and replied 23 times.

Quote from @Ryan Xu:

This is cool. I have a couple of these in Olympia, Dupont, Lakewood, and Tacoma as LTR at the time. And interested to see if anyone is doing well in this area.

So if you're pitching to @Mergim Kacija, please DM me as well.

Mergim, if you find someone who does it well. Keep me posted.


 PM me if still interested, I found an outstanding co-host

Quote from @Joe S.:
Quote from @Mergim Kacija:

Hello BP Community,

I've been accused of short-term renting my unit (which I have not) and was fined $12,000. Furthermore, the building's bylaws have a 25% rental cap, and my unit is NOT approved, yet I informed them that as an absentee owner, I shared my space (using a roommate agreement) to manage costs and that concurrent occupancy is permitted by the bylaws.  However, there seemed to be a misunderstanding around the term "concurrent occupancy," with them giving an example of a married couple. I questioned the relevance, asking why a married pair would have a lease amongst themselves. They remained unyielding in their stance.

After their decision, in goodwill, I offered to show them my roommate agreements for 12 months terms (which I did), terminated my roommate's agreement as they requested (which I did) and even proposed selling my condo (currently for sale). However, the HOA's attorney said their decision stands, leaving me with a hefty $12,000 fee.

I have done everything within my power to be amicable and respect the HOA's authority in the matter. At this point, I would be content with mediation and having the HOA just wave the fine to prevent me from selling the unit. The HOA board, however, doesn't seem to be vested in resolving the matter and the $12,000 balance remains in my account and the only form of communication they will have with me is via their attorney. 

Although I didn't actually stay at my unit during the lease term (my primary home is in Florida), I genuinely thought that I was within my rights to share my space based on the rules and regulations. 

So my question is, should I just pay the fine, sell the condo and chalk this up as a lesson learned? Or do I have any recourse in this situation? 


Thank you, 

Mergim


 So I’m a bit confused I didn’t read every single reply so maybe the answer was tucked away somewhere. between your first post of them fining you 12 K then toward the end, you said you paid 20k. How exactly did it jump $8000?

$8,000 was the total of the legal fees associated with drafting of the fine, filing an eviction and email communications between me and the law firm as the HOA refused to communicate with me.

Quote from @Scott Mac:
Quote from @Mergim Kacija:
Hello BP Community,

[1] ...I've been accused of short-term renting my unit (which I have not) and was fined $12,000....

[2] ...I informed them that as an absentee owner, I shared my space (using a roommate agreement) to manage costs and that concurrent occupancy is permitted by the bylaws...

[3] ...Although I didn't actually stay at my unit during the lease term (my primary home is in Florida),...

 Kind of sums it up in a nutshell.

To clarify, I never stayed the night in the unit, but I did use it when I was in town to take zoom calls, lunch meetings, drinks with friends, etc. 

Quote from @James Hamling:
Quote from @Mergim Kacija:
Quote from @James Hamling:
Quote from @Mergim Kacija:

Update on the HOA situation:

After going back and forth with their attorneys, the end result was they weren't willing to budge on anything even after offing evidence via bank statement, leases, etc that the unit was never short-term rented (the violation for which I was fined). Fines + attorney fees were $20,000 which I've paid to prevent any roadblocks for the eventual sale of the property (I'm currently living in the unit and its for sale). 

The are now insisting that I sign a settlement agreement and release of claims. I asked why this is necessary when I've paid all of their fines and remedied their violations. They said that the issue is technically open ended and they can still sue me and the release of claims 100% prevents that. 

Part of me wants to sign the agreement and just put this all behind me. But another part of me says there is nothing left to sue me for and not signing it leaves the potential to reclaim some of fines back in small claims  (after the sale) down the road in hopes that a judge deems the fines were unreasonable. 

I'm hoping the BP community's insights can help me on my decision. 

Thanks in advance, 

Mergim


I am beside myself that you threw $20,000 away on this. Wow, just wow.... 

You were obviously breaking the rules, had every chance to plead for mercy, but instead thought could bully way out of it and earned a $20k smack-down for it. Now curious about leaving door open for round 3.... Seriously.... Seriously.... 

Save yourself man, sign the papers, move on in life. 

Thanks for your advice James, I appreciate your candor. I was more than willing to concede that I broke the leasing restriction as they understood it and pay a reasonable penalty for doing so (legal fees as defined by the HOA docs), but that's not the violation for which I've been fined for. Hope that makes sense.


What's really important here no is 2 actions; (a) moving forward from this which included getting far away from this HOA because that well is obviously pure poison in any relationship now, right. And (b) getting $20k value out of this. The $ is gone, not getting that back, but what lessons, education, understandings can be drawn from it.

Have you tried reverse engineering things in a manner assuming they, the HOA, are 100% correct on everything they said? It's a mental exercise. Because if look back, with same feelings, will probably see same things. But if force mind to say "ok, let's do this different, let's pretend everything with HOA is 100% correct" and look back trying to find how it all goes together, may learn some new perspectives in it all that can aid going forward.

From what shared thus far, i have a feeling that things got adversarial early, and that entrenchment made any positive resolutions very hard. Because such a fine from HOA is insanely rare, I have known of such. Threats of such yes, but never actually been done.

Gotta try to focus on understanding it all, not fighting it, the fight is over, now it's about getting value from it to best of ability. 


That was really helpful guidance, thank you. I'm inclined to follow your suggestion and sign their document, understanding now that any investment involving an HOA comes with such inherent risks, similar to how investing in Florida means accepting the possibility of hurricanes. The challenging aspect for me is coming to terms with the way an HOA can behave towards an owner so contemptuously without consequence. It's like I went into a 7/11, forgot to pay for a Slurpee, and ended up in prison for life for murdering the cashier. OK... That's a bit of a stretch, but what if they imposed a huge fine on an owner earning minimum wage? That could completely ruin their life. I can't help but feel guilty that by not taking action, I might be enabling such a scenario in the future.

Quote from @James Hamling:
Quote from @Mergim Kacija:

Update on the HOA situation:

After going back and forth with their attorneys, the end result was they weren't willing to budge on anything even after offing evidence via bank statement, leases, etc that the unit was never short-term rented (the violation for which I was fined). Fines + attorney fees were $20,000 which I've paid to prevent any roadblocks for the eventual sale of the property (I'm currently living in the unit and its for sale). 

The are now insisting that I sign a settlement agreement and release of claims. I asked why this is necessary when I've paid all of their fines and remedied their violations. They said that the issue is technically open ended and they can still sue me and the release of claims 100% prevents that. 

Part of me wants to sign the agreement and just put this all behind me. But another part of me says there is nothing left to sue me for and not signing it leaves the potential to reclaim some of fines back in small claims  (after the sale) down the road in hopes that a judge deems the fines were unreasonable. 

I'm hoping the BP community's insights can help me on my decision. 

Thanks in advance, 

Mergim


I am beside myself that you threw $20,000 away on this. Wow, just wow.... 

You were obviously breaking the rules, had every chance to plead for mercy, but instead thought could bully way out of it and earned a $20k smack-down for it. Now curious about leaving door open for round 3.... Seriously.... Seriously.... 

Save yourself man, sign the papers, move on in life. 

Thanks for your advice James, I appreciate your candor. I was more than willing to concede that I broke the leasing restriction as they understood it and pay a reasonable penalty for doing so (legal fees as defined by the HOA docs), but that's not the violation for which I've been fined for. Hope that makes sense.

Update on the HOA situation:

After going back and forth with their attorneys, the end result was they weren't willing to budge on anything even after offing evidence via bank statement, leases, etc that the unit was never short-term rented (the violation for which I was fined). Fines + attorney fees were $20,000 which I've paid to prevent any roadblocks for the eventual sale of the property (I'm currently living in the unit and its for sale). 

The are now insisting that I sign a settlement agreement and release of claims. I asked why this is necessary when I've paid all of their fines and remedied their violations. They said that the issue is technically open ended and they can still sue me and the release of claims 100% prevents that. 

Part of me wants to sign the agreement and just put this all behind me. But another part of me says there is nothing left to sue me for and not signing it leaves the potential to reclaim some of fines back in small claims  (after the sale) down the road in hopes that a judge deems the fines were unreasonable. 

I'm hoping the BP community's insights can help me on my decision. 

Thanks in advance, 

Mergim

Quote from @Jonathan Klemm:

Wow @Mergim Kacija this sounds very unfortunate and frustrating - sorry to hear about all this.

A couple of questions:  

How large is the building? 

140 units

Where in Chicago is the property? 

450 Briar

Were you ever actually living in the condo when your roommate was there? 

No, I moved to Florida, but drafted my roommate agreements to allow me usage rights for the property whenever I desired. 

I've got a couple of chicago attorneys that I am sure would be open to discussing your options.  Let me know if you still need to talk with someone and I can provide their contact info.

I would love any introductions, particularly to attorneys familiar with HOA regulations.

Hi John, 

See my answers in-line above. I've gone down the path suggested by Greg M. to send a letter drafted by an attorney and will post the results here. 
Quote from @John Warren:

@Mergim Kacija I can introduce you to a good attorney yes. I will PM you the guy I use. 

Thank you John, greatly appreciated. 
Quote from @Mark S.:

@Mergim Kacija You aren’t likely to get much support from the other owners, since it appears that you were trying to circumvent the cap on rentals. Full time residents are more likely to support the board than you.

Hi Mark, 

While I tend to agree because the HOA will definitely control the narrative, If I were a resident and received a letter stating that the HOA is about to enter litigation that could cost owners tens of thousands of dollars and that I provided evidence to prove their claim wrong, I would advise the HOA to drop it. Even if I am guilty of violating the rental cap, I am not guilty of short-term renting of which I've been accused and fined for.

I think worst case scenario, I send the legal letter threatening litigation, they don't comply, and I just pay the fine and sell the condo to put it all behind me. If they do comply, then I've saved $12,000 (minus legal fees). 

Quote from @Greg M.:
Quote from @Mergim Kacija:
I did not short-term rent the property, but I did lease it to my roommate with shared usage rights. If I did violate anything, it's the 25% rental cap. However, the rules and regulations don't have anything specifically calling that out, the only thing that is in there is this:  


For any violation of the Declaration prohibition on short-term leasing, defined as any term less than six (6) months of occupancy for hotel or transient purposes, a fine of $1,000.00 per day will be assessed against the unit for first and subsequent violations.

In conjunction with the below clause in a rental cap amendment, the board somehow conflated the two to come up with a $12,000 fine. 

The leasing of renting of any Dwelling Unit of other occupancy of Dwelling Unit without concurrent occupancy by the Owner of such Dwelling Unit is limited to Twenty-Five Percent (25%) of the total Dwelling Units at any given time; 

So in short, the fine seems to reflect a short-term violation (which they cannot prove and I can disprove with my lease contracts) because they didn't have any fines specifically defined for rental cap lease violations in the rules and regulations. 

If they specifically cited you for STR violation, have an attorney write a letter. Any attorney will write practically any letter for a couple hundred dollars. 

You cited my client for a STR violation. This has been proved false (see enclosed copy of lease). You have 14 days from date of letter to remove fines and all costs from his account. Failure to do so will result my client filing suit naming the HOA Board, the Board members individually, and the Management Company, seeking removal of these costs as well as damages for their gross negligence.

Given the attached proof that my client did not violate the clause you cited, it would be extremely unwise to continue harassing my client for such an obvious mistake by the Board. Should the Board confirm within 14 days of this letter that this matter has been closed  and all fines and costs been removed from my client's account, my client graciously agrees not pursue legal action against the HOA Board, the Board members individually, or the Management Company for their negligence in this matter.


Once they get this letter, their lawyer will inform them of the costs of fighting it. They have to notify their insurance company (higher premiums / non-renewals) and they will have to pay the deductible which could easily be $10K or more. The fact it is not an open/shut case should make them back off.

FYI, you can file suit against these people without an attorney. Lots of free help out there on filing out the forms.

Also, nothing stopping you from sending a letter to every homeowner in the HOA. "The Board cited me for a violation I did not commit and I have provided them proof of this. I don't wish to have to sue the HOA (after all, it is all our money they are wasting on lawyers to defend their wrong actions and also to pay claims when they lose). Tell the HOA to acknowledge their error and drop the matter..."

Hello Greg, 

Thank you so much for your advice, I can't tell you how much I appreciate it. I think the two actions your proposed (evidence of innocence with counter measurement and if no luck, appeal to the homeowners) are precisely what I'm going to do. Hopefully I can find an attorney to draft the first as I believe it will be taken more seriously then if it just came from me directly. 

Thanks again, 

Mergim