Originally posted by @Jaysen Medhurst:
A few questions for context, @Isaac S.: How much is the property? What's the loan amount? How long to you plan to actually hold the property and what's your strategy? What's the term and amortization? Why are you doing IO with such a low LTV?
That rate is pretty smoking for a commercial loan, especially with 10 years fixed. That's probably why they have such a long period of yield maintenance.
Very unlikely that rates are going to go much lower than this for commercial loans. So chances are you're not going to want to refi. Since the loan is assumable, you have a good option should you decide to sell before 10 years. If rates are at 5-6% in 5 years, this will be very attractive to a buyer.
Depending on the loan amount (and a bunch of other factors) this may be a good candidate for agency debt (Fannie/Freddie). It's worth looking into. A lot of hoops to jump through, but it would be 30-year fixed at a great rate. The yield-maintenance period will only be 5 years, probably.
Thanks for posting!
$4.6m loan on a est. $9M value based on rent roll and comps(sq.ft and per door, similar type, same zip)
I was planning on holding until the next up cycle in the economy, based a recession starting sometime between 2019 and 2021....I am assuming that we are in the start of it now, and with the way some are theorizing, possibly a depression. So, originally I was thinking the next good up cycle or peak would have been around 2026-2028...and now I am thinking it could be longer, so I am less intimidated by the 9.5 years of YM.
I am doing IO for first 5 years...so our cash flow is not reduced substantially and allow me some time to acquire(the purpose of the refi is to diversify our RE equity) an underperforming multi in CA, and despite rent control, be able to increase rents(via organic turnover and annual increases) without being super aggressive, and between the primary asset and the newly acquired asset, have the five years to increase the cash flows on both assets, so that when the loans(will leverage the secondary asset, too) goes to P&I we are not missing any cash flow and probably doing a bit better, despite the increased debt service.
As for the lower LTV, I am being conservative and trying not to overextend our leverage. The primary asset is fully depreciated and has very little debt, so repositioning the equity into another asset(s) is the primary goal. The lower LTV, gets me the Fannie and Freddie lenders and the great rate...the rates were in the 3.88-5%+ range as soon as the LTV gets over 55%
Because of the building location in the heart of Hollywood, CA it will continue to appreciate and is a pretty safe hold, but, because of personal family circumstances I would probably hold for 10 years, even without the refi. I just want to keep my options open and know what my exit strategy would be if I do have to disposes before the ten years.
FYI, since I did the original post, the broker sent me the lender defined YM sheet of the contract, and I will just go through and start crunching some possible scenarios, to get an idea of what kind of hit I would take...ALSO, I asked about Owner carrying a second if I a buyer assumes the first and he asked the lender who replied that it was very common for Fannie to do a supplemental second along with the assumption of the first, in this type of a scenario.
I welcome any advice or opinions...please don't hold back, I have thick skin!
Thanks and the best wealth and health to you and yours!