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All Forum Posts by: Isiah Ferguson

Isiah Ferguson has started 66 posts and replied 315 times.

Post: 2 properties, I have which are both free/clear WITHOUT a job

Isiah FergusonPosted
  • Investor
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 320
  • Votes 157

@Chris Mason Hey, I know this is an older post lol. 

But I was wondering, when a person refinance their property do you have to pay the point upfront from your own pocket or do they take it from the cash out ? 

Post: 2 properties, I have which are both free/clear WITHOUT a job

Isiah FergusonPosted
  • Investor
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 320
  • Votes 157
Originally posted by @Chris Mason:
Originally posted by @Isiah Ferguson:

Hey BP.

I was wondering is there a way I can refinance 2 properties that I have which are both free and clear WITHOUT a job. 

I looked into a hard money loan which based off an individuals' assets in total and it is a 30 year fixed but the interest rates are between 6%-10% depending on my credit score. I think the rates are too high. 

Do you guys have another way I can go about this ?

How to refi without a JOB ???

We live in 1 of the homes now me and my wife. 

I have 2 year W2 for rental income through my LLC but it does not reflect my potential income. I'm looking to rent an apartment and move out turn my 2nd home which is the townhome into a rental.

I’ll have a duplex rented and a townhome. Personally, I’ll be renting temporarily. For the Potiential rental income, both properties will bring in 2600 in total. From this point, I’m looking to refi both at 75%. I'll take the cash from both properties and buy a primary residence cash and take out a heloc. 

Am I being realistic when it come to lenders ?

I did some envelope math at @J. Martin's event a few months back in response to a similar question and determined that in theory if your net monthly rental income is ballpark ~2.5x your monthly obligations [ personal PITI where you live + minimum payments on consumer debt obligations ], and it's packaged/submitted to underwriting correctly, your DTI will work out fine. You will be able to purchase/refinance up to that point which ~2.5x is reached. Since then we've closed a few for unemployed folks with no income (other than rental income), turning envelope math theory into actual practice.

In one case it was a deceased person's tax returns that were the basis for the rental income determination. The heir hadn't done tax returns yet that included income from the inherited rental properties, so we just used the tax returns from the dearly departed's trust. 

If you want to do a rough ballpark to see if you might meet this, pull up your most recent tax returns (or 2017 before you file them), look at net taxable number at the bottom of Schedule E, add back depreciation and mortgage interest, divide by 12, and subtract your P&I payment (we removed just the interest earlier, now we're including the P&I) to arrive at ballpark monthly true net cashflow, and compare to personal monthly debt obligations.

In your case, the strategy might be to find a local lender that'll entertain this, take out as much as you can using Fannie money, and only use hard money once you're tapped out of Fannie money. 

Post: Idk what should I do here. Need some advice clearly??

Isiah FergusonPosted
  • Investor
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 320
  • Votes 157

We definitely need some advice moving forward. Thanks in advance !!!

Me and my wife combine currently make $55K a year which will potential go to $70k a year with my new job offer. I'm currently in the background phase. We're both 27 years old.

Also we have 2 free and clear rental properties. An duplex potentially conservatively at market value worth $125k and town-home $135k. In total our grass income per-month is $2,555

We also have 18k in debt. CC, lease cars, few others. That we want to clear up.

We currently renting a 1 bedroom apartment with 1 son and another kid on the way. We need more space.

I'm here asking you guys because none of our family members are financially savvy to our knowledge.

Our next move, is this buy our primary home and we trying to figure our the best way to approach this. Of course we get the FHA loan or use conventional to avoid PMI. Show we just save up a down payment once we clear our debt and go the FHA first time home buyer route ? Or should we save and go conventional ? And keep our properties free and clear to keep that large amount on cash- flow coming in ? And get HELOC's for both properties to be able to pull make just in case ?

Should we take out the equity of both homes and potentially take back $191,000 cash back and cash flow roughly 300$ between both properties after expenses ?

Use the $191K and put 20% down payment on a primary residence, put 5k a piece for each rental for reserves, and put reserves aside for our primary as well ? And keep the rest of the cash for 1 more rental, our self, for emergency funds, and too spend some wisely ?

Any thoughts ? We not sure what route too go.

Post: Me and my wife need to choose ? what's your thoughts ??? HELP

Isiah FergusonPosted
  • Investor
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 320
  • Votes 157

We definitely need some advice moving forward. Thanks in advance !!!

Me and my wife combine currently make $55K a year which will potential go to $70k a year with my new job offer. I'm currently in the background phase. We're both 27 years old.

Also we have 2 free and clear rental properties. An duplex potentially conservatively at market value worth $125k and town-home $135k. In total our grass income per-month is $2,555

We also have 18k in debt. CC, lease cars, few others. That we want to clear up.

We currently renting a 1 bedroom apartment with 1 son and another kid on the way. We need more space.

I'm here asking you guys because none of our family members are financially savvy to our knowledge.

Our next move, is this buy our primary home and we trying to figure our the best way to approach this. Of course we get the FHA loan or use conventional to avoid PMI. Show we just save up a down payment once we clear our debt and go the FHA first time home buyer route ? Or should we save and go conventional ? And keep our properties free and clear to keep that large amount on cash- flow coming in ? And get HELOC's for both properties to be able to pull make just in case ?

Should we take out the equity of both homes and potentially take back $191,000 cash back and cash flow roughly 300$ between both properties after expenses ?

Use the $191K and put 20% down payment on a primary residence, put 5k a piece for each rental for reserves, and put reserves aside for our primary as well ? And keep the rest of the cash for 1 more rental, our self, for emergency funds, and too spend some wisely ?

Any thoughts ? We not sure what route too go.

Post: Do anybody invest in the C, D, F neighborhoods aka "the hood"

Isiah FergusonPosted
  • Investor
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 320
  • Votes 157

Invest in the hood with section 8, It’s a simple process. Also, you still want too keep your vetting process in effect background checks etc. 

There are good people in the hood. Due to circumstances they might not have high paying jobs etc. You can also target people with steadying paying jobs with good backgrounds. I go off vibes too. Sometimes your gut feeling can ween out the NOT good tenants. 

Post: How far do you live from your rentals?

Isiah FergusonPosted
  • Investor
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 320
  • Votes 157

45 minutes and I dislike it. It's better when u can drive 5 minutes away to see your assets. lol

Post: Tulsa real estate fund... Rebuilding BWS

Isiah FergusonPosted
  • Investor
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 320
  • Votes 157

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Thanks again people. There's so many opinions here. I think I will pass on these tenants. I am a big vibe/energy person. Based on that and their qualification ill rate them at a 6 on a 10 level number scale. I want to feel a lot more confident with the tenants I select. 

Originally posted by @Amber Knight:

If you're in a high demand market, I'd recommended holding off for a better applicant. 

Tenants with co-signers can have less respect for a property- the fact they have an eviction on record means paying rent isn't their highest priority and the high rent-to-income ratio is a third warning indicator. That's enough to move on if you have better options. 

 Thanks. It is a D class rural neighborhood. I believe it would be quite difficult to find quality tenants w/ great income. 

@David Fernandez @Account Closed Hey, would you guys recommend, that I make the co-signer get the Addendum Agreement notarized ?

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