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All Forum Posts by: Josh Calcanis

Josh Calcanis has started 25 posts and replied 127 times.

Post: 3rd Deal with No (liquid) Cash Down

Josh CalcanisPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Orlando, FL
  • Posts 131
  • Votes 62

@Von S. Yes. The lender wasn't impressed with the income from the properties alone.

Post: 3rd Deal with No (liquid) Cash Down

Josh CalcanisPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Orlando, FL
  • Posts 131
  • Votes 62

Thanks @Carlos Zapata

@Mark Webb I chose the the cash out refi because interest rates were also lower. a line of credit would have been great if the rates were worse than my original rate. Logistically I'd rather have one payment to handle too.

@Von S. I started to look while I was between jobs, but that was my biggest problem. Within a month I was talking with my lender again to prove their was income other than the RE.

Post: 3rd Deal with No (liquid) Cash Down

Josh CalcanisPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Orlando, FL
  • Posts 131
  • Votes 62

BP,

This past Friday I closed on my 3rd deal since starting to invest in Sept of 2015. My first property was a SFH followed by a Triplex in Thorton Park Orlando. I recently took a break from the 9 to 5 sales role that had funded my first two deals, so when I was getting close to my 12-18 month deadline of another cash-flowing property I needed to get a little creative. I'm currently working with a new tech start-up out of Nashville selling for their Business Development. I still had about 3 months of 'float' money saved and very little for any large cap ex, so replenishing some of that was also in my plan.

After speaking with my agent, lender, and @Dave Foster (who gave some great unbiased advice on a 1031, which I decided against) I decided to do a cash out refi on my Triplex and purchase a Duplex under an FHA loan in an upcoming area in Orlando (Mills50 area). I want to eventually move out of Orlando, but while I'm living here why not use every outlet possible. The Triplex had appreciated at the normal rate and the rents had been raised to market rents since December 2015. It was purchased from two kids who inherited it from their father and didn't want to be landlords. The rents were sitting at $895 where market rents were closer to $1100-$1300 for 2br/2ba.

After reaching out to a few lenders and eventually falling back on my lender from the first SFH, I realized the best idea was going to be doing a cash-out refi on my triplex and move into the Duplex. The cash-out on the triplex allowed me to walk away with money to put down on the Duplex, replenish my emergency fund and 'float' fund, and leave 30% equity in the Triplex. The Duplex worked well because we got a brand new roof, $5200 towards closing (the A/C units for both have about 3 years left), and no other major damage. The bottom unit was pulling in $1225 and no one was occupying the top unit. With that said, once I move out of the top unit, this property will be cash flowing $300-$400. At the end of the day we got the property for $284,000 and the cost appraisal came in at $329,000. Not

WHAT I LEARNED ON MY 3RD DEAL...

1. How the cash-out refi works...

This was the first time I didn't use my own money (kind of). I was still using the equity in my Triplex, but there wasn't an exchange of liquid cash, which made this process much more simple although it prolonged it slightly. If the numbers make sense and the interest rate is significantly lower this is an excellent option! For my lender we could do 15% down without doing an FHA on the Duplex or less if we went FHA. This was something opted for the FHA (the plan will be to try to do a portfolio 1031 in about two years to up the units in my portfolio) which meant the cash out had to align with what I wanted. I also got to dig a little deeper into the income and cost approach an appraiser will use.

2. The power of knowing value...

This Duplex really allowed me to explore looking into the value of a property, putting an offer in, and then adjusting the offer after the inspection. Since the roof had 2 years left and the HVAC was on it's way out, I was able to change the offer and provide a legitimate reason why I was coming in under list and why I also got a new roof out of it. This just supports a lot of the examples on BP, where if you come into a deal with your guns at the ready and your information supporting you, you can really walk away with an awesome piece to add to your portfolio.

3. None of my own money was exchanged...

I've read Investing in Real Estate with little (or no money) down, but hadn't explored one of the options until now (primarily because of the funds coming from my last job). It's a testament to if you want it, you will get it, you just have to figure out how!

Post: REI CV - The REI Resume and how to build one

Josh CalcanisPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Orlando, FL
  • Posts 131
  • Votes 62

Morning BP!

With 2018 coming to a close, I'm going to just make it (fingers crossed) on my goal of a property every 12-18 months. Next duplex is under contract and should have it closed by mid-december.

With that said, I've really been putting thought and research into the next step in the REI game for myself. For me, that involves stepping into my first 'commercial' property. While I plan on getting the rent on the duplex back to market rents and doing about $20k of work on it, the idea is to do a 1031 portfolio deal on both the triplex and duplex. With that cash, I'll plan on moving onto a larger deal. 12-20 units ideally. Depending on the deal, I might utilize some form of HML.

A couple of questions for those experienced with moving onto larger deals mentioned above...

- Thoughts on the strategy? Experience with a portfolio 1031 not working as well/getting less than the value?

- What do you use in a REI resume? How do you pull that together? Is that just normally just your proforma from the purchase then what it's cash-flowing now? This would be used to present to a HML or private money.

Thanks!

Post: advice to refinance or not to refinance

Josh CalcanisPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Orlando, FL
  • Posts 131
  • Votes 62

@Logan Larochelle I'm still in contact with my original lender from my first two properties, but after digging around I found someone out in Lake Mary that is a broker instead of a direct lender. What matters to me is that he's a bit more of a partner and investor I can team up with for years to come. PM I'll gladly share both lenders info.

Post: advice to refinance or not to refinance

Josh CalcanisPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Orlando, FL
  • Posts 131
  • Votes 62

@Orlando Samayoa I'm actually in the process of a cash out refi right now. I'll be planning to purchase another buy and hold here in Orlando. @Brad Gibson mentioned the benefits already, but the only other thing that pushed me to a cash out refi is the fact that I could get a lower interest rate. If you've already got a good interest rate there, a HELOC will allow you to take a line of credit without changing the payments on the current mortgage.

Post: Who's in Orlando that would like to meet?

Josh CalcanisPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Orlando, FL
  • Posts 131
  • Votes 62

@Chris Grenier did the happy hour/ seminar ever get off the ground? I'd love to meet some local investors. I just moved back a few months ago, but have been invested here for the past 2 years.

Post: Newbie looking for some help in Orlando, FL

Josh CalcanisPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Orlando, FL
  • Posts 131
  • Votes 62

@Mike Arlington that's interesting. that's great news for anybody over in college park

Post: Determining ARV of a Property

Josh CalcanisPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Orlando, FL
  • Posts 131
  • Votes 62

@Marcus Tanner welcome to the game of REI.

There are a ton of posts on this and a few blog posts on ARV. Just go to the search button in the top right and type in after repair value or ARV. Should have a lot come up.

With that said... It's going to depend of what you're talking about. Are you flipping? Planning to buy and hold?

An SFH would be valued off of the comps in your area. Something like a multifamily (under 4 units) would be also be valued off of the comps, but most banks take into account the cash flow while valuing a property.

Post: Hold or Fold? Knowing when to Sell

Josh CalcanisPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Orlando, FL
  • Posts 131
  • Votes 62

@Ericka G.

I could see where the competition coming in below market rent could really disrupt your cash flow, but if they're right around market rent, if you're competitive you should be alright.

Also, imho, if you're providing the value worth the rent it should be great whether or not the competition is there. Downtown Orlando is relatively competitive and we still were able to raise rents over a year and a half. We did have to remodel one of the kitchens in the triplex to raise rent for one v.s. another unit where the tenant said there is no need to remodel if we took $100 off the rent.

good luck on your decision