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All Forum Posts by: Jeff Burdick

Jeff Burdick has started 5 posts and replied 501 times.

Post: "Rentability" of Garden Units in Chicago

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  • Chicago, IL
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Originally posted by @Kyle Hansen:

I'm a first time investor in Chicago and I've noticed that garden apartments are MUCH cheaper than an apartment just one floor about it. This obviously isn't a surprise - people in cities prefer to be higher - but the factor of difference was surprising, often $20K-$30K between floors.  The low price of these garden units is very tempting and also opens up where I can purchase quite a bit (these are the only properties near the city that meet the 1% rule), so my question is: how much will garden units affect my rent potential and vacancy assumptions?

Does anyone have experience with garden units that could provide anecdotal advice? Is the "crime factor" that everyone seems to point to with garden units a reality, or just a stigma? 

The areas I'm looking are very nice and very populated areas near downtown, so even with the potential lower demand of garden units, I don't feel like my vacancy estimate should be impacted, but potentially the rental amounts. 

Thanks!

Kyle

 Are you talking about garden units in multifamilies or condos? Garden units typically rent for less because people don't like living in a basement as much as above grade. 

Post: Recommendations on expenses estimates

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Originally posted by :

, who do you use for property management?  Do you like them?  

 I PMed you with that.  

Post: Handyman or Heating Cooling in Chicago?

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While I haven't personally used it, I've heard good things about task rabbit.  

Post: Recommendations on expenses estimates

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Originally posted by @Tushar Shah:

@Yulia J. - Thanks Yulia. I didn't think about garbage removal.

 Garbage is paid with your water bill.  I think your estimates were a bit low for water/sewer/garbage though.  

I think 5% is low for property management as well.  Mine charges 7% for management and 1 months rent for leasing.  

Post: First-time Chicago multifamily in contract - Close or Pass?

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Originally posted by @John Nachtigall:

@Jeff Burdick

Can you enforce eviction and lease terms if you knowingly rent a unit that is non-complaint?   I am no lawyer so I honestly have no idea.   But I do know that contracts entered into with fraud are non-enforceable.   If the tenet refuses to pay the lease on a non-compliance unit what makes them?   Basically you like (and want to enforce) contract law, but not occupancy law.  That is the practical issue.

On the theoretical side, occupancy limits and zoning exists for a reason.   They are invariably created as a result of some tragedy, usually a fire, that results in loss of life.   Should anyone really not follow them?

I am not the experienced investor here, but if you are pouring a significant (possibly) all of your net worth into an asset, and the profitability of that asset is dependent on non-enforcement of established laws....that seems like an issue.

 That is a very good question.  I really don't know, but I assume you can...otherwise tenants would quickly figure that out and simply be squatting on non-compliant units all over the city.  

There is a lot of gray area with these things in Chicago because most of the houses are 100+ years old.  Some things that are non-compliant today were perfectly fine when they were built and things get grandfathered in.  

Post: CPA in Chicago Area! Referral needed!!

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I have a CPA that I use that does a great job for an affordable rate.  PM me if interested.  

Post: First-time Chicago multifamily in contract - Close or Pass?

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Originally posted by @John Nachtigall:

Why is everyone glossing over the most important thing...it is not legal

It is legal for 2 rooms not 3.   Seems like if your business plan relies on chronically breaking the law you have issues.

 "Non-compliant" garden units are incredibly common in Chicago.  

Post: New Investor in Milwaukee

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Originally posted by @Cory Bagby:

Hello, Everyone - My name is Cory Bagby and I am looking to start a buy and hold strategy in the Milwaukee area.  While I am not new to BP, it has taken me some time to determine the market where I want to invest and pull the capital together to get started.  

I currently live in Chicago and own a 2-flat.  I live in one unit and AirBnB the other.  I hope to learn from the collective expertise of the members on BP and build a local team in Milwaukee.  Any recommendations on realtors, wholesalers and other individuals that know the Milwaukee market are greatly appreciated.  Thank you!  Cory

 Totally unrelated to your OP, but I'm curious how AirBnB is working out for you?  Let me know if you're willing to discuss your experiences as this is something I'm intrigued by.  

Post: Chicago Multifamily in Contract - Close or Pass?

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Originally posted by @Elliott Kim:

Hello BiggerPockets,

After about half a year of learning and searching for my first investment property, I've finally found a property which I plan to “house-hack”. We are in contract now and the inspection period ends next week.

Here are the details:

Location: City of Chicago, Neighborhood of Avondale/Logan Square; 3 minute walk to a blue line subway station (26 minute door to door commute to the loop).

Market: The area has seen growth in both property value and development. If the historic pattern of real estate development follows its neighboring markets along the subway line (such as Wicker Park), this area will gentrify rapidly and see significant appreciation.

Property: Legal 2 units with finished basement and finished attic. In total, three rentable units: 1) Basement 2bed1bath, 2) Floor 1 2bed1bath 3) Floor 2 duplexed-up to attic 3bed2bath.

Numbers:

Purchase price = $460k,

Monthly Income: Basement = Occupy, Unit 2 = 1400, Unit 3 =1900, Parking = 100; Total Monthly Income = 3400

Monthly Expenses: PITI = (2800), Others (vacancy, repairs, utilities) = (530); Total Monthly Expenses =

(3330)

Monthly Net Cash Flow = 74 (essentially break-even)

Property Details & Issues:

HVAC = None. The house has one shared gas bill with a steam-powered boiler providing heat through radiators in only floors 1 and 2, leaving the basement and attic floors with no heat. For electric, the house has two electrical meters (one for floor 1 + basement, one for floor 2 + attic). Currently the owners use space heaters for the attic and claim minimal space heaters are needed for the basement because the boiler located there provides enough heat from itself. During warm seasons, AC window units are used for all units.

Water Plumbing = There seems to be weak water pressure particularly in the attic floor when multiple drivers (toilet, shower, sink) are used at once. Pipes are generally galvanized in material.

Water Heater = There is only one 40 gallon tank in basement for the whole house.

Questions: I don't have money for too large of a rehab project. Therefore, I'm planning to minimize rehab costs and bring the property to rent as quickly as possible.

  • 1) Since it’s impossible to separately meter radiators, and too costly to convert to forced air, I’m thinking of footing the gas bill and covering the cost through an upcharge of rent (these values are reflected in “numbers” portion above). Would tenants find this attractive? To counter the risk of tenants running the bill over my estimated average, is there a way to implement a sort of pay-for-extra comfort bill?
  • 2) Currently there is one master thermostat for the radiators in the 2nd floor – is it an easy/cheap process to change that master to the basement where we will live? How would I manage controlling heat once I move out?
  • 3) For electricity, I’d just have to split the meters between floor 1 and the basement. Is this easy to do?
  • 4) For the water, I’ve been suggested by a plumber to install a booster pump to fix the pressure issue. Can anyone attest to the effectiveness of this addition? Also, would it be advisable to install a 2nd water heater or can I replace the 40 gallon with a 75 gallon?
  • 5) Finally, this question isn’t related to the property, but the scalability of my future real estate portfolio. My partner and I currently have contracted to finance this property through a 5% down owner-occupy conventional loan. The restriction of concern is that you can't use this loan if you have any other properties under your name. With this property’s current numbers, my partner and I would BOTH have to put our names on the mortgage in order to qualify the debt-to-income ratio. Would it be advisable to skip this property to look for another one where only one of us would title the loan? This way, the other partner can leverage the same low money down program for a 2nd property relatively quickly thereafter? Multi-family properties are expensive in Chicago so future purchases through standard 20% down conventional loans would take me years of savings.

If you took the time to read through my wall of text, I want to thank you for your time and consideration! Any bit of advice/information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Elliott

 Well this is a long post with a plethora of information, so I'll try to give my thoughts as concise as possible.  

First of all, Avondale is a good area to invest.  It is gentrifying and seeing a lot of spillover from Logan Square.  

I have a 2 flat with a garden in Irving Park which I believe is similar to the property you're looking at. Your numbers sound okay. My two flats' rents are $950, $1300, and $1500 and just had a CMA that values it at 420-440K.

HVAC - I HIGHLY recommend you move the thermostat.  This is a fairly quick job for an HVAC guy(some handymen can do it even).  Put it in your unit or keep it hidden somewhere in a common area or in a locked closet, find someway that you control the heat.  

In terms of the basement and attic potentially not being warm enough, I'd be a little bit concerned about that because landlords are required to keep units at 68 degrees during the day and 66 at night from September through May.  

I would include heat in the unit prices and market it as heat included.  This is a big perk that some people like.  You could also have a separate monthly "utilities fee." 

I'd rely on what the home inspector tells you in regards to the pipes.  

40 gallons is likely not enough for 3 units(roughly 6-8) people.  But 75 gallon tanks are expensive.  I'd talk to a plumber or HVAC guy about that. 

In terms of rehab costs, my guess is that you're going to have some. It doesn't sound like this property is turn key by any means. Personally, I underestimated the costs for CAPEX when I began investing. Chicago houses are roughly 100 years old. Some things will need to be updated is my guess.

I have the exact same situation for electric.  I keep the electric in my name and market both units as electric included.  

In regards to your #5, I wouldn't let something like that cause me to walk away from a property that I thought was a good deal.  You can always refinance the property later.  I'd discuss your future plans with your mortgage professional, but IMO, its best to keep as much cash as possible as long as the property cash flows while you're trying to scale your portfolio.  

Best of luck!  

Post: Issues with Investors in Chicago

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Originally posted by @Ray Harrell:

Oh, I'm no expert in gentrification by any means. I just look at what history tells me from the time I was born here til I moved back 5 years ago.

 Gentrification in Chicago is something I tend to research extensively.  But I'm always interested in the opinions of others.  I'd be curious what your thoughts are.  I've only been in the city for 7 years so I don't have the long term perspective that some others do.  I've heard stories of how places like Lincoln Park and Bucktown used to be sketchy and that's amazing for me to think about.