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All Forum Posts by: Jeff F.

Jeff F. has started 6 posts and replied 240 times.

Post: About to make my first deal in Cheyenne, Wyoming

Jeff F.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wyoming
  • Posts 243
  • Votes 221

hey @forrest 

Thank reason I asked about owner occupied was exactly that. I got into my 4 plex here for 3.5% down - I used FHA. Look into that. Pm me for my mortgage broker. They were great, and my realtor specialized in multi family in town, was great as well if you're looking.

Your assumption on down payments is correct. You should be good to go if you have a deal in the works already. 

Also, the Cheyenne group is pretty active (though I'm very new) so pm me and I'll get you some names to get connected to for the next meet up. I suspect it will be in 3 weeks or so. 

Jeff

Post: About to make my first deal in Cheyenne, Wyoming

Jeff F.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wyoming
  • Posts 243
  • Votes 221

hi @forrest 

Welcome do you have something under contract? I just closed on a 4 unit in Cheyenne last week. 

Are you owner occupying the property? If not, how are you doing only 10% down 

Post: How to turn $1000 into $25,000 in less than a year

Jeff F.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wyoming
  • Posts 243
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Hi @Angela Jossy

From what I understand, the Sea/Tac area is rather crazy right now, but I think since you want to house hack there are a few good options:

1) Last week I saw a post about a portfolio lender in minnesota giving loans with just 3% down as long as you dont own a property already. I'm not sure how much capital you have or how much multi units are costing, but for 20k or less you could probably get in a multi unit that way.

2) If the above is unavailable, look into an FHA loan - those only require 3.5% down (and you'll need to pay PMI) but again you wont need a lot of your own savings. However, they can be a bit nit-picky during inspections, so be prepared.

3) You can purchase a single family home and "house hack" that by getting roommates. 

Hope this helps.

Post: Thanks to being flexible, finally getting my first property

Jeff F.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wyoming
  • Posts 243
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Awesome @Kyle Blake . GOod luck with everything! 

Post: A 20 year olds path to rentals

Jeff F.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wyoming
  • Posts 243
  • Votes 221

hi @Alex Austin

I live just up the road in cheyenne. I know loveland/foco real estate is pretty hot right now, so here's what I'd do if I were you:

get a bike and stop wasting money on gas and a car if possible. loveland is pretty bikeable and it's summer. You should be ok for the next 4 months. 

start cooking all your own meals. Get a crock pot. stop going out. set a weekly budget for all non essential expenses of $20. 

Ask yourself every time you buy something - anything - would you rather have what you're about to buy or a duplex? those movie tickets are fun, but which would you rather have. you're here on BP, so I suggest you know the answer, but now you have to live the life, not just talk it. 

Get a second job, save ALL earnings for a RE purchase.

Use FHA loan. You can get 3.5% down. You'll need 8750 + closing and other costs on a 250k property. You'll have to pay PMI, but 9k isnt a whole lot of cash.

you should be able to get that saved up between your two jobs. 

Post: First Deal - HERE WE GO!

Jeff F.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wyoming
  • Posts 243
  • Votes 221

nice job Tim. Are you planning on renting to students? 

Post: Self managing property - background checks ??

Jeff F.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wyoming
  • Posts 243
  • Votes 221

You can also check out cozy.co

I have just started using it, and like it so far. 

Post: Closing First 4 Plex

Jeff F.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wyoming
  • Posts 243
  • Votes 221

Thanks @James Wise - I may come visit you guys soon.

Post: Closing First 4 Plex

Jeff F.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wyoming
  • Posts 243
  • Votes 221

Hi BP Community! 

Wanted to thank everyone for their awesome insight (and @Mindy Jensen) for convincing me to sign up. 

Tomorrow, (If everything goes to plan) I will be closing on my first 4 plex. This deal has been a complete cluster from the get go and I'm happy to be at the finish line. Here's a bit of backstory.

I had always wanted to get into real estate, but my then wife was very risk averse and against it. We ended up parting ways (not because of that) and I decided it was time. A few months after the split, I found a nice 4 plex in my town that was in pretty good shape and I'd house hack. On January 15 I put in an offer that was accepted. I was still waiting on my ex wife to refi the house (she kept it) so I knew i'd need to put closing as far as possible to make sure the bank could process everything as I'd need the refi money for the downpayment here.

The seller accepted my offer and 2 days later a water heater blew up on them and apparently the tenant they were in the process of evicting did not notify them. I used this to get more due-diligence time and we went under contract on 1/18. 

At the end of the due dilligence it was clear that the bank my wife was using was happy taking their sweet time and I wouldnt have the cash in hand by the time I was supposed to close. 

Instead of accepting this and letting the deal fall through, I reached out to @Travis Speer and spent 15 minutes on the phone with him. It was probably the most valuable 15 minutes of my life. He could not lend to me, though he connected me with many people who could. Acting on a few of his other suggestions, I got on the phone and got in touch with a few mortgage brokers. I was able to secure an FHA loan and they were able to get the deal done, as long as I could convince the sellers to move the closing.

After giving up most of the closing costs I negotiated, the sellers agreed to push back closing and asked for a bit more earnest money. 

I started renting from the seller, with the assurance that in 3 weeks we would close. 

Then the FHA inspection came back, and they were rather nit-picky and said we needed over 6k in repairs that I knew the seller wouldnt bother paying for. However, I wasnt ready to let the deal die after all this time, money and energy had been put in to it. I spent about 10 hours (and $250) painting chipped paint, Installing some smoke detectors and replacing a window, but was able to keep the deal alive.

Im scheduled to close tomorrow, and since I STILL dont have the refi cash from my other property, I'll be looking for either my first flip or another multi unit with that money. 

Lessons Learned: 

Don't give up. There's always a way to get the deal done if you work at it. 

You dont need a lot of cash to get started. Look into FHA Loans, VA Loans, 203k loans and I even saw a thread here earlier this week about a portfolio lender who was willing to do 3% down as long as you did not own property already.

Stop reading BP, start analyzing deals. You can read and read and learn all you want, but you're really just preventing yourself from taking action while still allowing you to feel good about yourself because you're still learning (ie, you think you're taking action but you're not). 

Deal Stats:

Units: 4 (2 duplexes with a shed and connecting roof)

Rental Income: 2400/Mo, 28,800/year - though only 1800 when Im living there.

Cost: 220,000, 3.5% down with FHA, 30 years at 3.25%

Cash invested: ~9,000

All units full right now, further deal analysis in this thread

Plan is to do renovations on the unit I'm living in, purchase another multi unit in town, a flip in town, a turnkey out of town (have been looking at KC, Cleveland and Indy) with the refi cash and building an income stream from REI.

Post: Help! Should I sell, refinance or Struggle it out?

Jeff F.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Wyoming
  • Posts 243
  • Votes 221

if I were you, I'd go with option 3. 

You can increase your rents when you are next able, get a roommate and make some serious progress on the note.

Another question - why are you doing a refi at 15 years instead of 30?