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All Forum Posts by: Jerome Caldito

Jerome Caldito has started 1 posts and replied 14 times.

I'd love to attend one in Pasadena/Arcadia if you have it. That'd make afternoon travel a bit easier since I live in the area. Hopefully the windows align and I can make it out to this Clairemont event though. Clairemont, La Verne, and the surrounding areas have always intrigued me.

Quote from @Tim Ryan:

I have a Meetup Group in Pasadena area. You should come and see how I am helping new investors just like you. Send me a message with your email.

Hi Tim, I'd like to hear more about your Meetup group. I'm in the Pasadena area as well. Feel free to message me. Thanks. 
Originally posted by @Dan H.:
Originally posted by @Wendy Wong:

@Jerome Caldito 

Oh that’s good to know! We’re in the incorporated part of Pasadena though.

Yeah, that’s my feeling about the 60 days notice too. (We’ve been there 2 years so far.) They tried to say that our lease requires giving 60 days notice. (But the lease doesn't say that.) I asked whether we could do 30 days instead. Does that seem fair—or are we putting ourselves at a disadvantage?

Thank you! I hope so too. I want a drama-free ending if possible—but also ready to go the small claims route if needed.

 In the absence of the lease stating otherwise, the tenant is only required to give 30 days notice.   The LL is required to give a minimum of 30 days if tenant has been less than one year and a minimum of 60 days if tenant has been there over one year (regardless of whether lease indicates the LL can provide shorter notice).  So in your case the LL must give at least 60 days notice, but you only have to give 30 days notice (assuming you are correct that lease does not state otherwise).

note both the tenant and LL are obligated for the lease period, so the notice rules likely do not apply to either party assuming you did not renew into a month to month lease.

The LL really has virtually no power here.  You have a signed lease.  In the absence of the lease excluding anything, your lease is for the items typically conveyed in a lease.  In this case you have rented the yard and driveway (assuming not explicitly indicated otherwise in the lease).  The LL can not simply take away your yard or driveway mid lease any more than they can take away your kitchen.  Similarly, the owner cannot simply decide to turn your rented property into a construction zone.  This materially affects the rent value.

By the way, the addition of the 2 ADUs will not place any of these units under statewide rent control for 15 years (Costa Hawkins); the person who applied otherwise is mistaken. 

Consult with tenant advocate prior to agreeing to anything.  Because you have the power to hold up their plans, you very much are in the stronger position.  You should decide if you want to live through a construction project with substantially reduced rent (significantly more than $100 reduction), if you want to move with the LL paying moving expenses and possibly compensating for the hassle of the move, or if you want to force the owners to honor their lease and start the construction at the end of the current lease (even if you are month to month your lease is for 60 days after LL provides you notice).  

Good luck

@Dan Heuschele

I appreciate your insight on what's implied vs excluded when it comes to the lease. Since the original property is a triplex and assuming its older than 15 years old, wouldn't it be subject to AB-1482? I agree with you that the new ADUs would be exempt since their certificates of occupancy will be issued within the last 15 years.

Originally posted by @Wendy Wong:

Thanks so much! You’ve all been so helpful.

@Theresa Harris@Brady Richard

It’s a home split into a triplex. Our unit takes up the bulk of the house and includes the driveway, garage, and backyard. There are two studios on the side of the house—and those tenants enter the house through a small side entrance, park on the street, and don’t get backyard access.

I don’t trust the owners. There haven’t been major problems like this in the past—but a couple red flags that the owners are inexperienced. (The previous owners hinted these were novice real estate investors. I looked them up and most are recent college grads—not to say you can’t be young and a great landlord.) For example: Before closing, the new owners didn’t tell the previous owners they were sending an inspector—so that was a comedy of errors with the crew wondering if they were in the wrong backyard and us/old PM wondering if we needed to call the cops.

Our rent is $2,450. So we’d save $367.50 + $100/month (if they take our driveway)—which honestly isn’t worth the inconvenience. The blocks around us have recently had an uptick in car break-ins so that’s one of the reason we don’t want to park on the street. I plan on asking for a 30% reduction. They probably won’t go for it but we’ll see.

@Dan H. Yard and driveway aren’t mentioned in the lease. The lease says we get 1 “parking space” and 1 “storage space.” No, no rent control. We’re in LA County—but our city (Pasadena) doesn’t have any rent control policies.


@Wendy Wong Are you in unincorporated Pasadena? Since its a triplex and depending on a couple other factors, you most likely fall under the CA state wide rent control. If you're in the unincorporated area of Pasadena, then you'll also have the LA County RSO on your side: https://dcba.lacounty.gov/rent...

60 days notice isn't much a gift since they're required to give you 60 days notice, assuming you've been there greater than a year. I'm assuming this since you renewed.

Best of luck. I hope you're able to get a favorable situation and possibly enlighten your new landlords that honesty and transparency can go a long way.

Post: Buy property from parents and renovate it?

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@Dennis Guinto
What area of Pasadena is the property located? If you're in the unincorporated portion of Pasadena, you may subject to the LA County Airbnb rules vs the previously stated Airbnb rules for the City of Pasadena.

Here's a quick map I found. If you're outside the blue area, but still have a Pasaena address, you'll fall under the Unincorporated LA County rules: 

City Map

Thanks so much @David A. for sharing your ADU build with all the details. It definitely helps with understanding the process and what goes into it. Did I miss which city in LA County this was in? It would help provide context to the rules for the area. I live in Pasadena and I know our rules/costs vary from neighboring cities. I'm excited to see more updates on your project.

Originally posted by @Allen Wu:

@Jerome Caldito

I do not need cash flow at all right now. But, just starting to review cash flow after reading various books preaching “cash flow”. I rather hold onto this property long term as shortage of affordable housing continue to rise and there is no where in Pasadena to build besides going up. New builds will be expensive, so rather ride this one as there is “value” for renters.

Sounds like you already have your answer then. It'll eventually cash flow, either through raised rents or a refi event back to a 30 yr loan. I like the strategy of using a HELOC to access the equity so you're able to have it work for you. I'd do like others have mentioned and just hold it. Eventually, when it makes sense, I'd think about a HELOC on your condo to make a down payment else where like San Antonio.

@Allen Wu what are your long term goals? Do you need to cash flow at this point in your investing/life? Or would you prefer to focus appreciation?

Originally posted by @Sharon Cheng:

@Jacqueline Chang welcome to the party and thanks for keep this post alive!  Work had gotten busy so I haven't been able to check in to BP as often as I like.  Have you found anything yet?  I had looked at a couple of places with the limited time I have but no fruit yet. The market is so hot now, anything good is either too expensive or gone in a couple of days haha. 

I do have a general questions for the experts here on BP --  would you buy a house that has current renters living in it?  On the one hand, I think it's good that you don't have to worry about renting the rooms out; on the other hand, not sure whether I'd inherit any problem by doing that.  I saw a few listing like these and some of them doesn't even allow home tours, not sure if that's a red flag. 

Current tenants pose an issue with the current eviction moratorium if it's fully occupied. You'll have to check the with the city to see if they allow no-fault evictions. This pertains to you if you plan on doing an owner occupy eviction. The moratorium may or may not have an end date depending on the city. If one of the units is vacant then it'll be easier, but you'll inherit a tenant that wasn't screened by you so that poses its own set of problems. 

@Sharon Cheng

To expand on the house hacking you mentioned.

If you're having trouble finding duplexes or potential ADUs, AND you're willing to share a house, then I think house hacking would be a viable option. It can be a lower investment with immediate returns as compared to building an ADU and waiting on permits and construction. It just depends on the level of discomfort you're willing to endure.

I house hacked rooms in San Diego when I used to live there. I bought a SFR and rented each room out until my contribution to the mortgage was less than what I would pay for a 1 bed/1ba. I've moved to Pasadena and rent the whole house now as a single unit.

I found it helpful if you don't have to share a bathroom and if the bedrooms have a buffer between them. For instance if there’s a set of closets between rooms or if they are on opposite sides of the house.

For Pasadena, from what I've seen on nextdoor and Facebook groups, there’s always someone looking to rent a bedroom. The areas around caltech and PCC are definitely sought after and demand should increase as the schools open back up. this supports what @Nabil Suleiman has mentioned. If you want, join some rental groups on FB in the area and see what the demand looks like.

If I were in your shoes, found myself priced out of the market for large lots or duplexes, and willing to share a house with someone. Then I'd go with house hacking. You may even be able to go the route of building an ADU concurrently with house hacking on that same property. No one said they were mutually exclusive. Or just save up for another property that fits that criteria. Or you can just rinse and repeat the house hacking from property to property.

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