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All Forum Posts by: Jimmy Lieu

Jimmy Lieu has started 89 posts and replied 1826 times.

Post: STR / MTR in Indiana and Ohio

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Quote from @Kyle Butler:

Hey all,

Looking to get in touch with operators in these markets. Wanting to get different perspectives with the lay of the land. What strategies are operators using to acquire properties? What are the best cities for STR and MTR in Indiana? What are the best cities for STR and MTR in Ohio. Who are the best STR agents in Indiana and Ohio? What lending products are operators using for financing? What is the best way to get on the short list for insurance companies and hospitals to send leads for MTR?

Any advice from the community would be welcomed.

Thanks!

Hey Kyle, Columbus is a great market for STR and MTR, especially by strategically buying rental properties located nearby hospitals. I work with quite a few investor clients myself that are making an absolutely killing with short-term and long-term rentals. Especially in Columbus Ohio, where the population is consistently growing and the job market is exploding here (with Intel, Honda, Amazon, Wexner, Nationwide etc all bringing more jobs here!). As a local investor and agent here, if you want to connect or have any questions, feel free to reach out!

Post: Invest in Cashflow or Appreciating property?

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Quote from @Suzanne Laird:

I've been debating this for so long and I just can't decide what's best. I live in Greater Vancouver, Canada.. Would it be best to invest in a non-appreciating duplex that cashflows well (in Saskatoon or Edmonton- compare to midwest for US folks) or a non-cashflowing detached home in the coastal region of Vancouver area (think Seattle!) where there is tons of appreciation but NO cashflow. We would have to supplement the rent for a few years, but these properties are million dollar homes with great value. I'm so torn. what would you do? We have a decent amount to put in for a down payment (200k) but would stay with the 20% downpayment if going with a cheaper property (400-600k). We want to maximize our money to go as far as possible. Help please!! thank you so much for any responses!!! 

Hi Suzanne, I'd say it depends on your real estate goals - are you able to sustain your living expenses with your w2 job and don't need cash flow? or are you planning on using real estate to supporting your lifestyle and living expenses? It depends on your goals and what you're looking to accomplish with real estate investing!

With that being said, I really like Columbus Ohio - there's so many catalysts for why people should invest here. Specifically, there's job growth (Intel, Honda, Amazon, Nationwide, etc) and the population is growing (unlike Cleveland or Cincy). I really see Columbus Ohio as an extremely safe bet for the next 10-20 years. Plus, there's still so many positive cash flowing and 1% deals here in Columbus Ohio. Just a few weeks ago, I helped a client close on a deal getting them 20% cash on cash return. As a local investor and agent here, let me know if you have any questions or want to connect!

Post: Have you seen what's coming to Columbus?

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Quote from @Phong Bui:
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Quote from @Ed W.:

A caution, particularly for newbies.  What the real estate agents have said about Central Ohio growth is true - it looks very promising.  There is another truth - one that is notable and longstanding.  The core truth of real estate investing is that you should make your money when you buy.  That means that you should not buy a property based on the promise of future appreciation (or future growth, etc.).  Get solid cash flow and, preferably, a truly discounted price.  I've never met the agents who have contributed to this thread and they have all been solid contributors to this site in terms of the number of posts, questions answered, etc. but I don't know what sort of deals they propose to their clients. They may be the best deals on the planet.  The bottom line is that far too many agents propose deals that are very good for earning commissions but are marginal - at best - as investments and, at times, poor to very poor as investments. Again, this caution is not agent specific.  Don't be over-eager to do your first deal.  Learn the business (this site is a great place to start along with local real estate investment organizations), make sure what is proposed is sound, and make thoughtful investments.


Hey Ed, actually, I disagree with this - I think any deal that makes $100 net cash flow a month is honestly a buy - of course there's other variables like down payment needed, type of financing, cash on cash return, interest rates, etc. but the thing is real estate is how MANY properties you buy, not waiting for huge cash flowing deals at the present. Any property you buy in Columbus Ohio today, in 10 years, through appreciation, cash flow, depreciation, principal paydown, they will all be making at least 20% cash on cash return. Real estate is a long game!


 Definitely not a fan of blanket statements like these. $100 net on a large deal may not be enough to cover a large unexpected expense, or a prolonged vacancy. I know you mention other metrics in other comments, but this comment alone can lead many inexperienced investors down the wrong path with bad investing fundamentals. You cant guarantee 20% coc return in 10 years and neither is coc return a good metric for long investment decisions.

Ed's caution, although maybe a little too wary, is still very valid to encourage new investors to do their own due diligence, especially given current conditions. I'm bullish on columbus still, but you cannot ignore the fact that there are a lot of impacting this market. Still lots of instability and that can be very risky for investors in the short term and result in them never being able to realize the long term gains. Buy and hold strategy doesn't work if you can't hold it long enough.

When I say $100 net, that includes maintenance, capex, vacancies, etc. Of course no one can guarantee 20% coc return and investing in anything in a risk at the end of the day - there is no 100% safe investment especially in real estate. Of course anything can change and we can go through a recession or covid 2.0 happens, but if you think about it from a logical standpoint, give any positive cash flow property 10 years of rental increases, appreciation, principal paydown, depreciation, etc.... especially in a booming market like columbus, you should definitely be making 20% coc

Post: OOS Investing in Which Markets?

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Quote from @Garet Gavito:

Hello there! I'm based in San Jose, CA (and may be moving to NYC in the next ~1.5 yrs) and have been trying to decide which market to invest in out of state. I make a decent six-figure income here but couldn't fathom ever affording a remotely decent place here, which has driven me to look at markets out of state where I could actually come up with $40k for a down payment. In particular, good price-to-rent ratios, low median home values, and high rental demand have led me to consider the areas around Milwaukee, WI and Detroit, MI -- but honestly I've only just started researching. Open to other market suggestions too.

I did also consider Denver, CO since I'm originally from there and am familiar with the area, but the Denver metro area has gotten quite expensive itself... maybe a smaller town like Greeley?

I'm interested to know if anyone has any experience (benefits or risks) in OOS investing in a similar situation and what type of property you've invested in.

I'm also open to any advice you might have for someone who is buying for the first time and doing it out of state no less. Thanks!

Hey Garet, I really like Columbus Ohio and work with a lot of California investors - there's so many catalysts for why you should invest here. Specifically, there's job growth (Intel, Honda, Amazon, Nationwide, etc) and the population is growing (unlike Cleveland or Cincy). I really see Columbus Ohio as an extremely safe bet for the next 10-20 years. Plus, there's still so many positive cash flowing and 1% deals here in Columbus Ohio. Just a few weeks ago, I helped a client close on a deal getting them 20% cash on cash return. As a local investor and agent here, let me know if you have any questions or want to connect!

Post: Why are out-of-state investors investing in Ohio instead of other mid-west states?

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Quote from @Kent Petersen:

Ive seen a lot of pull into Columbus due to the developments that are about to hit the city. Intel being built is going to bring 7,000 construction jobs as well as 3,000 permanent positions!  

I really like Columbus Ohio - there's so many catalysts for why people should invest here. Specifically, there's job growth (Intel, Honda, Amazon, Nationwide, etc) and the population is growing (unlike Cleveland or Cincy). I really see Columbus Ohio as an extremely safe bet for the next 10-20 years. Plus, there's still so many positive cash flowing and 1% deals here in Columbus Ohio. Just a few weeks ago, I helped a client close on a deal getting them 20% cash on cash return. As a local investor and agent here, let me know if you have any questions or want to connect! 

Post: What will the growth in Columbus in the next years do for Real Estate in the City?

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Quote from @Kent Petersen:

Columbus is adding multiple developments in the next couple of years.

First, Intel being built is bringing 7,000 construction jobs, as well as 3,000 permanent jobs to the city!

Secondly, Nationwide Childrens Childrens hospital is adding on a new orthopedics and surgery center, new research facilities, and a new 12 story inpatient hospital tower. 

Lastly, there have been talks about a professional volleyball team that will be calling Columbus their home town. This looks like they will be hitting the city in 2024. 

Lots to be excited about for the city of Columbus!

First time hearing about the volleyball team but, I'm stoked with the new developments. This is why I always tell my investor clients that Columbus Ohio is an absolutely safe bet 10-20 years from now and you would have wished to buy anything! Anything cash flowing property you buy today here is going to be a goldmine! As a local investor and agent here in Columbus Ohio, if anyone is interested in learning more about the city or wants to connect, feel free to reach out.

Post: Just starting out, crazy rates low inventory

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Quote from @Brandon Morgan:

I am just now starting out as a real estate investor. I am looking to buy my first property. I am a Physician Assistant and make decent money (over 100k yearly) but in my area everything is still super expensive, very unlikely to find anything under 300k. 

I was originally planning on finding a multi family and renting it out. my goal for my first property to eventually pay for itself and maybe even have a slight positive monthly net income, but even then Multi families get bought out rapidly. 

the real estate agent Ive been working with recommended using a 203k to fix up a property and suggested doing a house flip with a single family. flipping wasn't my original plan but it seems possible, but I get worried about the monthly payments for the whole first year before I can sell it and my abliltiy to sell it with the market being unstable and possible crash coming. I am not sure what I should go for. 

any advise on what to do? also renting and keeping vs flipping given my situation? open to any advice for first time investor. 


Hey Brandon, I really like Columbus Ohio (and believe it's way cheaper and you get better bang for your buck compared to Jersey) - there's so many catalysts for why you should invest here. Specifically, there's job growth (Intel, Honda, Amazon, Nationwide, etc) and the population is growing (unlike Cleveland or Cincy). I really see Columbus Ohio as an extremely safe bet for the next 10-20 years. Plus, there's still so many positive cash flowing and 1% deals here in Columbus Ohio. Just a few weeks ago, I helped a client close on a deal getting them 20% cash on cash return. As a local investor and agent here, let me know if you have any questions or want to connect!

Post: Have you seen what's coming to Columbus?

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Quote from @Es Stones:

Is anyone else wondering why these big left coast companies are moving to Ohio?  I sure hope they don't bring the same problems they caused out west.  I say this because Ohio is on my bucket list to visit and I would appreciate experiencing Ohio for what it is currently and not what it might become under outside influence.


Low cost of living, affordable real estate prices, population is growing, great economics in Columbus Ohio! I always tell my investor clients that if you want a safe bet for a real estate market to invest in, I would go with Columbus Ohio - it has a great mix of both appreciation and cash flow

Post: How I Was Able To Get My Investor Client 26% Cash On Cash Using Seller Financing

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Quote from @Alfath Ahmed:
Quote from @Jimmy Lieu:

I'm a local investor and agent here in Columbus Ohio. I wanted to share with you a quick client story of mine (happened just a few weeks ago!) where I helped my client close a 26% cash on cash return deal using seller financing. I found this deal from someone within my sphere of influence.

So I found this deal in the Hilltop area, absolutely turnkey 3 bedroom/1.5 bathroom house with around 1500 SQ ft. From a normal purchasing standpoint, it doesn't really make sense and the ROI doesn't look great because with today's interest rates around 6.5-7%, it kills any sort of cash flow possible. However, I pitched seller financing, and the seller was okay with it! The worst thing they can say is "no" so why not ask??

The asking price was $155k, the seller wanted 25% down, was okay with seller financing the rest at 4% interest rate (amazing freaking interest rate!), and balloon payment within 5 years. The buyer can easily rent this property out for $1,600/month, or most likely even more! The buyer's plan was to rent for a few years, get positive cash flow coming in, and by the end of the 5 years, with all the accumulated positive cash flow, appreciation, loan down payment, etc., they will be able to easily refinance and get most of their money out! Best of all, this was a turnkey property, and is able to be rented out from day one!

Moral of the story: if a deal doesn't work from a numbers standpoint, always make sure to ask about creative financing!

If anyone has questions about how creative finance works, would be happy to answer any questions


 That's awesome Jimmy! Happy for your success my man.


Thank you!

Post: STR market in Columbus, OH & Kansas City, MO.

Jimmy Lieu
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Quote from @Mostafa Faghih:

I'm looking for top properties in the short-term rental market in Columbus, OH and Kansas City, MO.

I want to know more about the current state of the market, top-performing neighborhoods, and high-quality properties for short-term rentals. If you have experience investing in short-term rental properties in these cities, please share your insights, strategies, and tips for success.

Thank you!

Hey Mostafa, I would personally really like Columbus Ohio as a short term rental market - there's so many catalysts for why you should invest here. Specifically, there's job growth (Intel, Honda, Amazon, Nationwide, etc) and the population is growing fast (unlike Cleveland or Cincy). I really see Columbus Ohio as an extremely safe bet for the next 10-20 years. Plus, there's still so many positive cash flowing and 1% deals here in Columbus Ohio. I work with a lot of investors here who specifically do STR and MTR by purchasing properties nearby hospitals and rent them out to travel nurses and they are making a killing. As a local investor and agent here, let me know if you have any questions or want to connect!