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All Forum Posts by: Jonathan R.

Jonathan R. has started 13 posts and replied 568 times.

Post: Evicting for Noise- Mental Illness...

Jonathan R.Posted
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  • Wichita, KS
  • Posts 584
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Hello BP Community. I have a real doozy going on here. I just moved in a few weeks ago a new section 8 tenant into a duplex with the other side occupied by another section 8 tenant. I am getting great rent per side. Anyway, the new tenant has a gov’t caseworker, I knew that when I signed his voucher and went over the lease. I didn’t ask about his illness, nor is it legal (I’ve been told) to ask. He seemed chill. Since moving in, he’s had two psychotic episodes where he screams vulgarities and makes a big scene; the cops came last night. I’m in a one year lease and we have had two episodes where he has completely disturbed my other tenant, and the neighbors (whom I adore). Is not providing a peaceful place to live for others grounds for eviction? Section 8 is involved too, as I signed their paperwork, this is a doozy I know... Any advice?

Post: I can’t afford utilities. Help!

Jonathan R.Posted
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  • Wichita, KS
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Originally posted by @Daniel Levin:

I just bought my first 4 unit building 6 months ago. I’ve needed to put some money into it along the way. 3 units are occupied, the 4th is mine.

The rent breaks down as:

750

1025

1160

Total: 2935

The expenses:

1850 (mortgage)

900 (utilities)

2750 in expenses.

2935-2750= +185 per month.

Each tenant came with the building and I inherited their leases. All was going well until July. The unit paying 1160 just stopped paying. August1, no payment. Said she was getting on an assistance program. Sept 1, nothing. Was having issues with my payment system. Oct 1, I began the eviction process.

The utilities are included in the rent, but she stopped paying the rent and I’m getting shut off notices. I had to get a second job to pay her utilities in August and September and now October. She is aware of the issue and JUST WONT PAY. Her time to leave is up today, and she is still living in the unit. Has no plan of moving. I filed for eviction with the clerk and filed a suit in small claims court. She keeps asking how she can stop this process but JUST WONT PAY!!

Obviously she has got to go. Now I’m down to having to choose whether I want to default on my brand new mortgage or allow her utilities to be shut off. I just can’t afford to support her during this process. I don’t know what to do.

Oh and fun fact: her lease expires in a week and she tells me she has no plan of moving. Do I have to pay her utilities with no lease, and an eviction? It’s impossible to get money out of her!

Obviously I should have started the eviction process earlier, but seeing that it takes 3 months, I’d still be in this situation now anyway.

Someone please help. What the heck do I do?!

Call the utility companies and set up a payment arrangement. Some will take 1/12 of the bill and divide the rest in installments. Then figure out how to get utilities and rent separate.

I have broken a few: I buy pretty much every time without an inspection (granted they are 20kish sfr); I’ve kept at times basically zero reserves; I’ve touched the forbidden 401k; I not only buy distressed properties but I sometimes buy in distressed areas; and... I think leverage can make people lazy-if the investor hustled harder it would be amazing what can be produced.

Post: Unwanted Land in the Wichita Kansas Area

Jonathan R.Posted
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  • Wichita, KS
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Originally posted by @Shawn Z Stewart:

What worries me about that is the ongoing liability that comes with owning a drainage ditch. It's truly such a waste, because it backs up to the valley center flood plain. Why not use that as residential property and use the flood plain for drainage. I don't get it. Yet, when i spoke to the city planner and a drainage engineer they said it would cost me an absolute fortune to redesign the drainage plan and then i would have to get it approved through the HOA and the city. Just a waste of 1.5 acres if you ask me. I don't even understand how they can auction it off. it should be rezoned as reserve land.

SZS

 Ready for this bad advice, put it back in an auction. Try McCurdy if you bought yours at a tax auction... Maybe someone else knows what to do with it. Lol. Not sure that was ethical. Use your discretion. I like @Jason Lavender idea, if you absolutely can’t recoup your initial investment and don’t want to pay the taxes or maintain it etc, stop paying and let the city take it back.

Post: Disabled tenants in the hood

Jonathan R.Posted
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  • Wichita, KS
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Originally posted by @JD Martin:

Thoughts:

1. SSDI and disabled veteran's benefits is really the new welfare (and I say this as a veteran before anyone jumps up in hysteria or outrage). In a lot of cases these people live in areas that are so economically disadvantaged that getting some kind of disability benefit is the only realistic income available. That doesn't make it right, it just makes it rational. 

2. Even if the number of people abusing these programs was 50% - which I don't believe is anywhere near the case - the total dollar outlay would be a joke compared to virtually any other federal program costs.

3. In any ideal condition no one would receive anything without giving something in return. I see things all over the place that need doing - cleaning up parks, providing child care, sitting with the elderly, etc - and there is surely a value to society that every person can provide short of being in a vegetative state. If individuals with severe mental disabilities can work menial jobs, surely we can find something valuable to do for everyone else that needs some form of assistance. Not only is this fair for society, it's healthier for the individual's psyche, as they could feel good about the assistance they get as payment rather than charity. A side benefit would be the reduction of the lower-pay labor pool, which would raise low-end wages without laws.

4. I try not to worry too much about what the next guy is doing. If existing on less than a thousand dollars a month is someone's life ambition, they have bigger problems than the little bit of money they're scamming from the system and I am thankful not to be them. 

 This utopia you describe sounds eerily like Animal Farm (communism)-working together for the good of the whole, the poor working for the government, too much gov’t control etc. Personally, I like the way we do things, it’s a safety net not only for the most vulnerable, but also encourages risk taking because life can only be as bad as the provided safety net.

Post: how to remove money from you job 401K?

Jonathan R.Posted
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  • Wichita, KS
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@Irwin Velez if you are employed, you can borrow against your 401k (I support certainly if you are going to stay for five years in your job until the loan is paid back), the interest is paid to yourself-it is low like 4.75%. Nominal fee (like $50 maybe) only. You can borrow up to half of what you have in your account, $50,000 max if you have $100,000 in your 401k. Aside from that... you would have to do a hardship withdrawal.... Don’t let people scare you out of using your own money... Keep contributing to your 401k to get the company match, but other than that, blow the 401k up at this point I think, don’t let Wallstreet 401k bankers make you think you can’t use your own money. 

I use my 401k to help me in real estate as often as possible. I know how to buy right though. Good luck!

@Lue Brooks Ready to hear what it costs to treat bedbugs? I split this cost with a good tenant because we like them recently. Anyone know????

$650!

It is more expensive than normal bugs. Once they are there, you must get rid of them, they will follow you everywhere, moving will not help. It’s a big deal. Call a pro, shoot for a whole house bomb for less than that number I gave you, that is a cheap company even; the bedbugs treatment service is guaranteed for a year. To treat bedbugs you have to spray weekly, it’s a mess, good luck! And do not go over to the property personally, burn all clothing. 

Also, I wouldn’t sue. Take it across the chin and move on. Send them within 30 days the long list of why you are keeping their deposit. Just my .02

Post: 30k plus profit in D area flip? Possible?

Jonathan R.Posted
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  • Wichita, KS
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Originally posted by @Jared Viernes:

@Jonathan R. your outlook on investing and life is heartwarming. I hope that the majority of us feel as you do. It’s definitely important to give back to the community when we have the capability to do so. Please share more of these types of stories! It’s great for the community and a good influence on the rest of us. Keep up the great work! Also, I’ll be ending my MBA this December and coming out of command too so my time schedule will free up significantly. I still need to see one of your projects!

Congrats on your MBA at Wichita State (coming Dec.)!!! I was unable to get into that program because my undergrad gpa was not high enough, now I went on to 4.0 an MBA program at Baker and carry four addition A grades on my first four classes toward an MAOL (just to gain addition credits to teach and learn, my employer has 100% reimbursement program up to $5250 a year) so I’m not joker of a student, your program is certainly excellent; tough to get into. I’m proud of you. Keep working that W2 and selling real estate on the side, I did that for many years (5 maybe), push hard, save 20k and get a Home Depot or Lowe’s card and get in this local real estate game as a investor asap-:) You’re awesome, your local perspective is always called upon and so much appreciated. Reach out anytime and I’d love to show you all my properties. Cheers. 

Post: 30k plus profit in D area flip? Possible?

Jonathan R.Posted
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  • Wichita, KS
  • Posts 584
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Originally posted by @Michael Ealy:
Originally posted by @Jonathan R.:

Well, here we go folks, I’m ready to lay this to bed once and for all. For years I’ve read from B and A class investors, others trying to scare me off of buying and renovating D class properties. They’d write, “It will never appreciate.” And... “It is worth 20 grand today and it will always be worth 20 grand.” Yada Yada. Today we put this all to the test...

My year long section 8 tenant is moving out this weekend, her lease is up at the end of the month. I called my realtor and said I would list the house with him while we look for another section 8 tenant paying $795 a month if he could get me a crazy number like 50k. I bought the house roughly two years ago for 19k and did a 10k renovation. It is near a major University on the edge of a rough area. After looking at comps, understanding our renovation, my realtor said he is comfortable at 66k, but can push it to 69k. 

It feels great to hear those numbers, I’ll report back if I am in fact the genius I always hoped I was. To my never buy in rough area naysayers, I have nothing to report yet, but I’m putting you on notice that pigs are going to fly on this one. 

 Jonathan,

I was able to make NOT $30K on a property in a D area but MORE than $1 MILLION.

48-unit apartment building in D area which is 80%+ vacant, filled it up with tenants (in a creative way) and got 100% occupancy of guaranteed rent. Sold it 6 years later and made over $1 MILLION. Here's how I did it:

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/311/topics/644570-how-i-made-over-1-million-on-1-deal-after-6-years-of-headaches

You’re crushing it, I am aware of you from this original post, we chatting on a post I think a year or so ago. I see a vacant apartment complex, one that completely fits that description, I’d like to inquire about in my area. Your slam dunk was an arrangement with the agency that helped place tenants. All of my stuff is Section 8, so I supposed it could fill, but it would take some time to place for sure. Good luck! Thank you so much for posting, sir! 

Post: 30k plus profit in D area flip? Possible?

Jonathan R.Posted
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  • Wichita, KS
  • Posts 584
  • Votes 812
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:
Originally posted by @Jonathan R.:
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

@Jonathan R.  nice post its nice to see a departure from the kick the low life out right now mentality @Dennis M. working with people in their lives can be as rewarding and creating income through the rental process..  I know most folks on this site will say your in a business take emotion out of it.. or your not running a charity etc etc.

but charity can start at home.. and we can give back if we choose to.. One of my partners is a very giving guy.. And we were having dinner at one of his buildings downtown PDX he owns seven story building he totally refurbed and the ground floor tenant Is a restaurant.. Anyway he goes on to tell me one of his units he does not collect rent on because he really likes the lady living in it and she cant afford rent  :).. 

So as we mature as investors and start to give back you can do it in the form of rental payment forgiveness if you like.. nothing wrong with that.. Although most investors on this site are NUMBERS driven and the thought of giving up any income would be very contrary to them meeting their goals of financial freedom.. which being a landlord to me is a business its not financial freedom.. you still have to work for your money in some manner.. But anyway I know how others who have worked a W 2 would consider being self employed landlord financial freedom.. 

its nice to have a good amount of Karma in your Bucket.. !!!

Thanks for your reply, Jay! It’s really cool to have you on this thread. 

Yes, landlording is active, I’m more active than most even I suspect. Though, I feel I can run and hide if I want to for a good long period. Not having to rely on a paycheck I suppose I mean. My goal is at least 6 revenue streams (as close to passive as possible) in the next seven years or so. It will all have been built on the foundation of low income housing. I second and third guessed myself for awhile, hard to be convinced otherwise that owning in areas most other investors shy away from can be lucrative. 

As long as you understand what your investing in .. do not hand over to 3 p management and limit to no debt this can work just fine its mom and pop landlording at its root.. where people get in trouble with these assets is too much debt and PM over head kills them.. and then there is no exit although it appears you have an exit.. did you actually close one for the 60k.. I find listing stuff in the mid west and actually selling are VERY different things/ and bottom line numbers.. 

 Yes, for sure, we don’t mind self managing. I’ll still have a handful of others if this one sells. I suspect it will but hasn’t yet, we aren’t too worried about it as it’s priced at market. We are about to reduce it to 66k, stuff has been selling like crazy in this type of range. No worries either way, it just feels good to be kicking some butt. :)