All Forum Posts by: Jonathan Ruths
Jonathan Ruths has started 8 posts and replied 15 times.
Post: LLC structure advice...

- Springfield, PA
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My wife and I bought our first investment earlier this year - an STR. We have a money partner who helped finance some rehab costs for that property in return for some equity. We created an LLC, set up the bank accounts, and are now looking for our next property. After the original LLC was created (simply titled after the street address), we starting using the branding "Family First Hideaways" when talking about the web of properties we would like to acquire across the country. I'm just looking at our current expenses - some are specific to the first property (street address LLC) like cleaners and handymen charges, but a few - mostly managing and analysis software - are going to carry over and used for other properties... Since our plan is to bring in partners for future purchases, should we set up a separate LLC for "Family First Hideaways" that can act like a holding/managing company to become the partner in those future STR acquisitions... or am I just getting ahead of myself.
Thanks for your input!
Post: Owner's Closet locks

- Springfield, PA
- Posts 16
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What lock do you all use on your owners closet so the cleaning team can access? Do you use another digital front door keypad, or do you have a cheaper non-battery option you like? Having a hard time finding something that works.
Post: To niche or not to niche

- Springfield, PA
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Post: Structuring a partnership deal

- Springfield, PA
- Posts 16
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Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
Quote from @Jonathan Ruths:
Consult an attorney for development. Partners should consider if they plan to hold the property forever, or for a set period of time. I personally recommend a short term, like 3-5 years, where partners are required to review performance and vote to keep the property or sell and split. This gives everyone a way out.
What if one partner wants to cash out because they need the money? Allow them a way to sell their share to the other partner(s). This allows them to leave without requiring the other partner(s) to sell a deal that's performing well. What if the partner(s) can't buy the other out? Can they sell it to another person and bring them in as a partner? Do the remaining partners get to vote and approve/deny the new member?
That's just a few sips to wet your whistle. It's a lot to think about.
Yeah, definitely a lot to think about. Thanks!
Post: Structuring a partnership deal

- Springfield, PA
- Posts 16
- Votes 6
Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
Quote from @Jonathan Ruths:
It sounds OK on the surface. My preference would be to split all profit based on the percentage of money invested, but then pay each partner separately for work done. You get a management fee. If he does repairs, he gets paid hourly for his labor. I think it's cleaner that way.
Don't forget to negotiate an exit strategy in case one or both partners want to leave.
Post: STR with HOA "renters" fee

- Springfield, PA
- Posts 16
- Votes 6
Quote from @Tyler Winget:
Hey Rich - see you’re local! Is this in the Poconos?
If so - reach out! Happy to point you toward the better communities that don’t have astronomical rates. Can also checkout our website - www.lflistings.com
I am looking in the Poconos, yes. Already working with a realtor, but appreciate your website and the list of HOAs and their STR friendliness!
Post: Structuring a partnership deal

- Springfield, PA
- Posts 16
- Votes 6
Hi all,
Just curious on how you'd structure a deal with a partner with the following information. I'm going to bring about 30k to put towards downpayment and closing costs of the purchase and the property will be in my name as a second home. My partner will bring about 50k for rehab and furnishing.
Here's what I'm thinking. Since I'm managing the property, I'll take 15% off the top of all bookings similar to a management company. Then my partner and I will split the remaining profits based on the percentage of the money we brought.
Does that sound like a good deal for everyone? Thanks for your feedback!
Post: STR with HOA "renters" fee

- Springfield, PA
- Posts 16
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Post: Reserves and Expenses for STRs

- Springfield, PA
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Post: First Property- Phoenixville House Hack

- Springfield, PA
- Posts 16
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Thanks for sharing! I've been eyeing the Pheonixville market for a few months. What do you think are the best and worst things about investing there?