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All Forum Posts by: Benjamin Cowles

Benjamin Cowles has started 92 posts and replied 441 times.

Post: How to Structure a Seller Financing Deal?

Benjamin CowlesPosted
  • Cape Coral, FL
  • Posts 469
  • Votes 32
Originally posted by @Bill Gulley:
Originally posted by @Benjamin Cowles:
Originally posted by @Bill Gulley:

...The loan should be marketable for the seller....in most cases, but not all. If an elderly person may end up in a nursing home they could have asset issues to qualify for benefits. The note can be marketable and sold to pay for costs or, depending on state law, if the asset is not marketable it won't count in qualifications. So, again, how's your legal knowledge?...

Bill, could you explain that part, particularly the bold part, as if to an eight year old? I'm clueless as to what the point of that paragraph. Thanks!

When someone goes to the hospital or requires medical care and they don't have the money or means to pay, the state assumes financial responsibility. The state has requirements for people to qualify for benefits. Their assets cannot exceed $999.00 with the exception of primary home, 1 car, wedding ring or exempt personal property. A note is personal property. Depends on how state law is written, if the note is valued based on market value of assets and that note is not marketable, it is taken out of the evaluation of their assets. If it is marketable and worth more than the amount allowed, the note must be sold. The proceeds of the note sale or any assets sold will need to be spent on care, or that dollar amount must be spent before they qualify. Say the note is worth $10,000, they are only allowed $999, that means $9,001 must be spent on care before benefits can be awarded for their care. That amount usually comes from the sale of the note. 

There are also laws concerning estate planning for the purpose of qualifying for benefits, a felony, and there is a "look back" period (7 years) where assets disposed of can become part of that asset evaluation.

I highly suggest investors who are dealing with elderly people seek legal advice in 3 areas, medical benefit assessments, elder law and finance if doing a seller financed note. 

Not sure about the 8 year old, but that's at least the eighth grade level ;)  

 Thank you! That cleared it up for me. 

Post: How to Structure a Seller Financing Deal?

Benjamin CowlesPosted
  • Cape Coral, FL
  • Posts 469
  • Votes 32

BTW Bill. You ought to take all your posts, or pay someone, and create an e-book. You've been generous enough with all your info, but you definitely deserve to get something of time/$ out of it. 

Post: How to Structure a Seller Financing Deal?

Benjamin CowlesPosted
  • Cape Coral, FL
  • Posts 469
  • Votes 32
Originally posted by @Bill Gulley:

...The loan should be marketable for the seller....in most cases, but not all. If an elderly person may end up in a nursing home they could have asset issues to qualify for benefits. The note can be marketable and sold to pay for costs or, depending on state law, if the asset is not marketable it won't count in qualifications. So, again, how's your legal knowledge?...

Bill, could you explain that part, particularly the bold part, as if to an eight year old? I'm clueless as to what the point of that paragraph. Thanks!

Please tell me you're sharing this because it's an EXCEPTIONALLY great deal, because I'm in the same area just starting out and if that's a standard deal I've got a long road ahead of me. Great job either way. Tell me, would you have taken that if you could only have gotten it for no less than 85k? Because I'm thinking I would. I'm thinking it will be a tough sell above 150k tho. What kind of countertops in the kitchen & baths? What's the s/f'age? What year was it built? Nice find!

Originally posted by @Holli Phillips:

Jan,

She started making payments again... Eventually.. So she's still in it.

 Phew! Okay. That was a relief. consider yourself lucky. That was a cheap lesson. Onto the next thread...

Originally posted by @Jerry Padilla:

@Benjamin Cowles

I would prefer to rent or sell. I don't know all the aspects of the Dodd Frank act or laws regarding seller financing. 

If I were to do seller financing, I would only be profiting the interest rate. If I were to keep the property and rent out, my profit would be much greater with the rental income versus the interest rate. Obviously, this all depends on rental income, house prices and interest rates. Here in Rochester, home prices are cheap, rents are decent, so the interest rate versus the profit from rental income is greater. 

 Gotcha, thanks.

Post: Making an offer

Benjamin CowlesPosted
  • Cape Coral, FL
  • Posts 469
  • Votes 32
Originally posted by @Ryan Webber:

I've done it before with Letters Of Intents. I didn't go off of list price though, I went off of a CMA. I found a new, hungry realtor and had her make about 50 offers a week. She needed something to do anyway. I ended up getting one deal out of it.

 So ultimately she didn't find it worth her time? 

Originally posted by @Jerry Padilla:

@Matt Motil Thank you for the mention! 

...

I agree there is no point with rent to own, as I prefer to keep all the profit if the mortgage is in my name. We also have tenants that have interest in purchasing one of our rentals. But we are not willing to do rent to own, either. 

I am always glad to answer any questions. 

 hey Jerry, I was curious what you meant by this. Thanks. 

Post: Good cash & credit, zero income. Options for financing?

Benjamin CowlesPosted
  • Cape Coral, FL
  • Posts 469
  • Votes 32

I've an 800+ fico, 100k+ cash + a 3/2 SFR F&C(my home) but zero income. If I cannot get a conventional loan ATM, suppose I purchase a rental, at a "deal" price with cash and HM @ 13%(no points), put in renters, what would my options be for refinancing in the short term of let's say a year down the road? If nothing, then how about two years? Verifiable income?

I've access to a HML offering the 13% mentioned with prepay penalties as he/she prefers to lend for the long term so obviously if I can find a deal that will cash flow with this rate I'd work it till and as soon as I could refinance. So I'm just trying to get a idea for what to expect to plan for. Thanks people.

Post: Skip Trace

Benjamin CowlesPosted
  • Cape Coral, FL
  • Posts 469
  • Votes 32
Originally posted by @Derek W.:

I just got registered. It was a pretty thorough process. They ran a back ground check on me, asked for lots of documents proving who I was and how I was tied to my business. Then they do a site inspection of your office. My understanding was you need a commercial office site. They won't approve people who work out of their homes. I've just started using the site, so I don't have any feed back yet on how helpful it is for me to find missing owners and heirs. My sales rep was very easy to communicate with. I'd call your rep and ask what you need to do different to get an approval.

 Who/what company are you talking about?