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All Forum Posts by: Kameron Wilson

Kameron Wilson has started 7 posts and replied 25 times.

Post: Looking for advice on our first rental...

Kameron WilsonPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • New Richmond, OH
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 13

My personal opinion would be that I would never buy my first rental with no cash flow, if your goal is to replace income in retirement my focus would be cash flow. Buying with zero cash flow and hoping for appreciation would be a strategy for after you have cash flowing assets.


Just my .02 cents  

Post: Liquidating a rental every 2 years and capital gains

Kameron WilsonPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • New Richmond, OH
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 13
Quote from @Bill Exeter:

There are three (3) scenarios possible here, and the answer varies slightly for each.

Rental Property to Primary Residence

An investor acquires rental property and rents it out for any length of time (it was not acquired as part of a 1031 exchange). The investor could sell and complete a 1031 exchange into another rental property, or the investor could move into the property, convert it to his/her primary residence, live in it for 24 months (minimum) and then sell and take advantage of the 121 exclusion pursuant to Section 121 of the Internal Revenue Code. The 121 exclusion is the $250/$500K tax-free exclusion available on the sale of a primary residence. This strategy would only exclude any capital gain up to the $250/$500K limitation and any depreciation recapture would be recognized.

1031 Exchange into Rental Property and then to Primary Residence

An investor owns rental property that he/she sells and 1031 exchanges into other rental property and after renting the newly acquired rental property for 12 to 18 months (in order to demonstate intent to hold for investment) converts it to his/her primary residence by moving into it and lives in it for 24 months (minimum, in order to satisfy the 121 exclusion requirements of living in it as a primary residence for 24 months out of the last 60 months).

This transaction is identical to the first one with the exception that it started off as part of a 1031 exchange, and because the property that was converted to his/her primary residence was originally acquired as replacement property in a prior 1031 exchange the investor must own it for at least five (5) years before he/she can sell and take advantage of the 121 exclusion. The five (5) year ownership (holding) requirement is a new requirement contained in the October 2004 income tax act.

So, to summarize, under this structure the investor would sell and exchange into new rental property, rent for 12 to 18 months, convert it to his/her primary residence, live in it for at least 24 months, and once he/she has owned it for a total of five (5) years he/she could sell the property and take advantage of the 121 exclusion. This strategy would also only exclude any capital gain up to the $250/$500K limitation and any depreciation recapture would be recognized. If the property has a lot of built up depreciation this strategy may not be appropriate for the investor.

Primary Residence to Rental Property

This is perhaps the best yet. The IRS issued Revenue Procedure 2005-14 that allows an investor to convert his/her primary residence into investment property and ultimately take advantage of both the 121 tax-free exclusion up to the limits of $250K/$500K AND defer the rest of their capital gain by using a 1031 exchange.

The steps would be to move out of the primary residence and rent it out for 12 to 18 months in order to demonstrate intent to hold for investment and then sell the property. As long as the investor has owned and lived in the property as his/her primary residence for at least 24 months out of the last 60 months he/she will qualify for the 121 exclusion. And, as long as the property has been held as investment property for a period long enough to demonstrate intent to hold and is investment property at the date of sale the investor can complete a 1031 exchange and defer the balance of his/her capital gain income tax liabilities.

Whew! Does any of that make sense?


 Although this was a long time ago this was the exact answer I was looking for, thank you!

Post: To keep or not to keep?

Kameron WilsonPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • New Richmond, OH
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 13

I am coming up on the second year owning my primary residence, my question is whether it makes more sense to keep it and turn it into an investment property or take advantage of the appreciation and tax free money and use that to acquire other units. Here is the situation. 


My current house is 2/1 on about an acre, shared driveway, propane backup - rent would be around $1250-1400/ mo my PITI is $730.

I bought the property off market a year and half ago for 99,500 and i think i would sell for around 190k so roughly 90k tax free less 3% or so for buyers commission etc. 

I think the cashflow would be good but with the yard, landscaping, propane, and having a shared private drive if it would make more sense to take the 90K ish and use that for down payments on multis on smaller lots. Any input is welcome. 

Post: Novice interested in multi-family investing

Kameron WilsonPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • New Richmond, OH
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 13
Originally posted by @Cameron Braig:

Welcome to the forum and congrats on getting started. Some good metrics to use to help determine markets are those experiencing trends like job growth, rent growth, income growth, job diversification, and population growth. Hope these help and best of luck going forward. 

 Do you have good sources to get this data? 

Post: Commercial to Residential??

Kameron WilsonPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • New Richmond, OH
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 13

This might be a bit of a stretch but im sure someone in the forums can probably answer this. 

I know that in order to get residential loans the multi family must be 1-4 units. So my question, is it possible to convert a 5 unit into a 4 unit by combining 2 of the units together and then qualify for residential lending?? 

For example can you get a hard money loan to buy the building, convert the 5 into a 4 for personal use and then refi out of the HML with a residential loan??

Post: How to use future rental income to qualify for a mortgage

Kameron WilsonPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • New Richmond, OH
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 13
Originally posted by @Jeff Shumway:

Hey Kameron, as long as you have an executed lease, you should be able to use 75% of the rental income from the property to offset the mortgage payment. 

 I asked about that but i was told that without proof of being a landlord previously they couldnt use the projected rental income. 

Post: About to take my RE license test, rethinking my broker...

Kameron WilsonPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • New Richmond, OH
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 13

What did you decide?

Post: How to use future rental income to qualify for a mortgage

Kameron WilsonPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • New Richmond, OH
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 13

I am trying to buy my next house but I want to keep my old single family as a rental, I dont have 2 years of rental history and I have never worked as a property manager so I am wondering if anyone has any tips that I could use to try to use my projected rental income from the house I keep towards qualifying for another mortgage, or another strategy. Any comments are welcome. 

Post: Find discounted properties

Kameron WilsonPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • New Richmond, OH
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 13

Propstream is a great source to find off market multi's in your area and you can mail or skip trace the owners to see if they want to sell. It costs a little bit of money ($99) a month but is a great resource. 

Post: Buying a Pre-Foreclosure (Cincinnati)

Kameron WilsonPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • New Richmond, OH
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 13

Thank you for your reply, that is great information.