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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 11 posts and replied 52 times.

Post: Pittsburgh Duplex Under Contract... Maybe More Than Its Worth

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  • Salt Lake City, UT
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Originally posted by @Jacob Howell:

@Account Closed

Hey Hows it going Chris! 

The Maximum allowable offer is based on a formula. Here it is 

[MAO = (ARV x 0.7) - Monthly Holding Costs - Estimated Repair Costs - Transaction Costs]

Also, the purchase price of $2,500 is a typo and is not be factored in the formula above.

I hope that helps..

Thanks for Responding 

Appreciate the info

Interested to hear what others might suggest!!!

Post: Pittsburgh Duplex Under Contract... Maybe More Than Its Worth

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Originally posted by @Jacob Howell:

A few days ago I was able to secure a contract with a seller looking to get rid of his multifamily home. He's looking to sell due to health issues so agreed to take a look over the property. When I did my analysis i came up with the Maximum Allowable Offer using as listed below. I hope to wholesale this property. 

The owner wanted $89,000 originally but he was willing to accept my offer. I fear that I have offered more than I should have. After looking at the property everything looked great. Only minor issues to deal with (Needs Stove and Fridge in 1st floor unit) and the school district is awesome, one of the top ranked schools in Western PA (South Fayette).  This is a turn key for buy and hold investment. Only thing is that it is not occupied and would need to be filled with tenants. Potential rent you can expect to get $1200 to $1500 per month. 

Would like to get some advice about this deal. What are your thoughts? 

Curious to understand the calcs.

How is the 71k offer computed and interested to understand what's behind the $2,500 purchase price figure. 

Post: Analysis Paralysis - Help!

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Originally posted by @Dave S.:

Hello friends!

I have a townhouse in Newcastle, WA that I purchased for $200,000 in 1999. It is worth $400,000 today. The cap rate is 1.68%. My mortgage is $65,000 at 3.5%.

In 2016, my household will earn $160,000.  In 2017, our medical training will be completed and our wage will increase to $400,000.  We have good credit (800) and will likely buy a $400-800k house in 2017. I also plan to buy/open a medical practice estimated at $300k in 2017.  We also have $400,000 in student loans at 3ish%

If you were in my shoes, what would you do?

1) Nothing-- Just keep renting it out and pay off the mortgage.
2) Sell the property and buy 2 smaller properties with higher cap rates using like-kind exchange
3) Sell the property and use the money for student loans, house and practice purchase.

Or something else?

My goals are to maximize long-term value; cash flow isn't important. I do not want to be an active day-to-day property manager, but do like to be a part of big decisions. I am considering getting a realtor's license just to have a better understanding of things and also because of the high amount of transactions I'm going through.


I have analysis paralysis and would appreciate your insights. Please help!

Happy New Year!!

One way to put these options into perspective would be to evaluate them based on rate of of return for your investments vs the interest rate you have on your student loan debt. At ~3% id say take your time paying student loans as your RoR from investments should be considerably higher.

There might be other caveats since you mention purchasing a 400-800k home. Staying on the lower end of this purchase price spectrum might be advantageous as well for obvious financial reasons. Living within or below my means is difficult for me and something I'm working on but freaking hard to do.

Will let the community respond on the specifics but hopefully this helps somewhat. All the best. 

Post: Which Choice would you choose?

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How many bathrooms are in each SFR?

Post: Am I Ready to Start Investing??

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been asking myself the same question though at some point you have to make that judgement call. Capital reserves are huge and not having high interest rate debt is huge.

One way I think about things is in terms of opportunity cost. Is the rate of return I'm receiving on my investments (REI equities/bonds/etc) greater than the interest rate on my debt?

Might be more of a personal finance perspective but once you have a solid financial position to start from pulling the trigger on your first property will hopefully be that much less risky.

Also start analyzing potential properties as if you might buy them, join your local REIA and continue to educate yourself.

Podcast #37 with Aaron Mazarillo was really insightful; learning from project manager perspective by flipping. 

Post: Are You a Multi Family Sheep Being Lead to the Slaughter

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I made it, I made it through the entire thread!

Post: How is my analysis?

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Originally posted by @Jack M.:

I'm looking at buying my first rental property that was specifically intended for rent (as opposed to my current rental which happened on accident after the crash).

I just want to bounce my thoughts off of BP as a sounding board to make sure I'm looking at this properly.

I have about 50k to spend on a property in a different state. I have a property management company that also has a turnkey service to buy new properties. I understand this will eat into my margins, but I can't see myself flying down to oversee maintenance for a few weeks. 

There are a few houses in this particular area that are selling for about $25k, will take about $15k in repairs to get it in rental shape, and should rent for about 1k per month. The turnkey fee for overseeing construction is 20% of the construction costs (how badly am I getting ripped off there?) so my total cash needed, after closing costs and everything, are about $46k. The ARV should be about 55k.

My property management company has several properties in the neighborhood, and they assure me that they're renting them out for 1k to 1100 per month. 

I estimate the monthly expenses to be about $620, so my monthly cash flow should be $380 a month, or ~$4500 a year, so around a 10% cash on cash ROI. I know that's a little on the low side,

I came up with the expenses like this:

15% vacancy

20% Repairs and CapEx

10% Property Management

$50 insurance

$170 taxes

I know there has been a lot of talk about these $30k houses. The latest podcast had an in-depth discussion about the pros and cons about those houses (@Ben Leybovich was particularly harsh on them), but those they were talking about were renting for more like $500 a month, not $1000.

I was also considering using my money as a down payment and getting a "better" property, but I will be unable to get a conventional mortgage since I've only been self-employed for 8 months (and I need 2 years), and I'm not sure I'm comfortable getting too creative with my financing at this point starting out, especially when I'm looking at a 10% ROI on a turnkey property.

Any thoughts on this? What have I missed, if anything? Am I making a horrible mistake as a newbie, or is this sensible?

15% vacancy might be conservative; ~8.333% is approximately 1 month out of the year

All the best!

Post: M&A Activity & Institutional REI

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so i'm going to reply to myself

here's another interesting article about institutional money in the mix. personally i don't think this is a good sign for the overall economy whether it be the RE or the capital markets, more of a gut feeling but I've felt this way for awhile now.......

http://www.globest.com/news/12_1255/national/multifamily/Blackstones-MF-Buy-the-Latest-in-a-Long-Line-364128-1.html

Post: Clinton Hill Brooklyn Deal Analysis

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Originally posted by @Evan Ernst:

Thanks for responding guys. Apparently the vacancy rate for the area is 1.76% so I rounded to 2. It's definitely possible to lose a month from a screw up or a bad situation in which case it would hurt. I currently have the rent rates at the bare minimum of 2300 for the bottom 1br with large backyard, 2100 for the middle 1br, and 2000 for the top 1br. But technically, all the new development condos in the area are priced way higher which should push lower pricepoint minded people my way. And once going, I could probably get closer to 22-2400 for most of the apartments. Which numbers should I be focusing on, the coc? Total roi? I'm not really sure which to use as a minimum % I should hit to decide whether to move forward. And the fact that it might be 200k lower than fair market value, does that justify it if I'm looking at this for a buy and hold?

In terms of what numbers you should focus on; that's something you need to figure out although I think cashflow is a requisite for any RE investment. Not that you should expect appreciation but would say you can expect it though not sure what actual number would be.

In terms of CoC % return, an aim point is 7-10%. Although you might get percentages that are higher from others on here. The 200k discount is compelling though for me any RE investment needs to cashflow.

full disclosure i don't have an investment property yet  though trying to find the right multi-unit at the moment and getting close.

one resource i'd highly highly recommend are the BP podcasts! they are really solid thanks

@josh dorkin & @Brandon turner!

Post: Clinton Hill Brooklyn Deal Analysis

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@evan ernst 

The one thing that stands out is the vacancy rate at 2% if you're already pretty tight to begin with on your CoC return. How do the numbers look if you're out just one month's rent from one (possibly 2 units) unit?

Though the rent amount you're using as a proxy might be conservative given the area and improvements you're mentioning.

All the best!

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