All Forum Posts by: Kyle Shankin
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Post: does this make sense? do i get approx 20,000 cash out?

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Hi @WilliamRoberts. It looks like you're purchasing and rehabbing with cash and you're all-in at $86,000. If you can refinance at $101,200, I have you at $14,000: $101,200 - $86,000 - $1,200 (closing fees).
A few other things that I noticed that you may want to take another look at:
- You're refinancing for $101,200 which is 72% LTV of what you're valuing the property at. I'm not saying that's not possible, but 70% is more likely in my experience.
- You've put 2 months as your refinance time. Typically you need to let the property 'season' on the market for 6 months (again, just in my experience), before you can refinance.
- I get closer to 5.5% interest rates in my area right now, you might get 5% for your area or if you're living in the property. Just another thing to check
- And then the biggest issue that I see is that you only have Water&Sewer, property taxes and insurance listed. I'm assuming this is not vacant land since you listed a 2 month rehab period. If this is a duplex, SFH, etc. you'd also want to make sure you're putting aside a percentage for vacancy, repairs, capEx and management.
Post: When do you replace the roof ?

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Originally posted by @Victor S.:
Originally posted by @Kyle Shankin:
Originally posted by @Victor S.:
Originally posted by @Kyle Shankin:
Hey @Joe Villeneuve, does this mean that the roof adds a significant value to an appraisal, where an investor could refinance for a higher amount?
Joe was probably talking about sellers replacing the roof, and you (the buyer) upping the offer price by x amount.
Thanks Victor, that makes sense. I was only asking because the initial question was about a property that is already part of OP's portfolio. Whether or not to replace a roof is a key question for me right now as I'm looking for houses to BRRRR and the roof is just one of those large expenses. I'd imagine it's tough to negotiate a new roof when I'm already offering the seller (in their eyes) way below market rate.
Oh, for sure. You could see if they would file a claim and get it done under the insurance. You could work out their deductible piece with them. Might be worth a shot.
That's some great insight. Thanks for the tip!
Post: When do you replace the roof ?

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Originally posted by @Victor S.:
Originally posted by @Kyle Shankin:
Hey @Joe Villeneuve, does this mean that the roof adds a significant value to an appraisal, where an investor could refinance for a higher amount?
Joe was probably talking about sellers replacing the roof, and you (the buyer) upping the offer price by x amount.
Thanks Victor, that makes sense. I was only asking because the initial question was about a property that is already part of OP's portfolio. Whether or not to replace a roof is a key question for me right now as I'm looking for houses to BRRRR and the roof is just one of those large expenses. I'd imagine it's tough to negotiate a new roof when I'm already offering the seller (in their eyes) way below market rate.
Post: When do you replace the roof ?

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Hey @Joe Villeneuve, does this mean that the roof adds a significant value to an appraisal, where an investor could refinance for a higher amount?
Post: Tax sale houses. Learn from my most recent trouble :)

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@Greg Carrier sorry about this hard time and thanks for sharing it with the community. I'm not familiar with tax sales, so this was an interesting read.
Post: New member in Southeastern Michigan

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welcome @Robert Jurado, hope to see you around!
Post: Setting up LLC .Should i do myself or get a RE Attorney

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Use an attorney @Jeyo Punnakottil. Filling out the forms and filing them seems easy, but you really want to make sure that the LLC is setup in a manner that both you and your partner agree on.
Post: Finishing up small rehab - need suggestions on exit strategy

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Originally posted by @Alex Porrett:
Originally posted by @Kyle Shankin:
Sounds like you already have some good advice on here @Alex Porrett. I just wanted to chime in with my recent experience in refinancing a house. While searching for loan options, I was told that you cannot take a HELOC on a house that is not your primary residence.
Any suggestions on who to finance through?
When I did my refinance, I used Matt Trabucchi with First Independence bank - Mtrabucchi{at}firstindependence{dot}com. I had a really good experience with him, he worked hard and was very clear about what he needed and how the process works.
However, one thing I want to point out is that you're likely going to have to pay 2,000-3,500 in fees when refinancing, no matter who you go through. My understanding is that a HELOC has no fees. But again, you'd have to actually live in the property as your primary residence for that loan.
Post: Finishing up small rehab - need suggestions on exit strategy

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Sounds like you already have some good advice on here @Alex Porrett. I just wanted to chime in with my recent experience in refinancing a house. While searching for loan options, I was told that you cannot take a HELOC on a house that is not your primary residence.
Post: What are the downsides of getting your real estate license?

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@Russell Brazil first off, thank you for all of that knowledge. Now onto the part of your response that made me spit out my coffee, fined $100,000 for asking where a client is from!? What rule did they break by asking that question?
Do you mind sharing a ballpark of what an annual cost of all of those fees? I would imagine that, with enough volume, even a few thousand dollars could be considered as the cost of doing business.
This certainly gives me a lot to think about.