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All Forum Posts by: Matthew Cope

Matthew Cope has started 6 posts and replied 20 times.

Post: First 4-Plex Fire. All 12 Cats Survived

Matthew CopePosted
  • Investor
  • Nixa, MO
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 14

I wanted to share my experience with my first property fire, which shockingly was not a terrible process to navigate through. A little background on the property, we had just purchased a 4-plex off market. Two of the units were recently remodeled, the other two units were in rough shape with less than desirable tenants. One of these tenants, nicknamed cat lady, owned 12 cats in a 2 bed 1 bath unit. This is the first time I’ve had a home inspection actually list “cats” as an area of concern during the inspection. After purchasing the property, we began renovations on one of the remaining units needing remodeled and decided to honor the last 3 months on cat lady's lease. 

The night of February 20th, I woke up around 3:00 AM and saw I had a missed call from one of my property managers. I immediately knew something was wrong for him to be calling that late. His voicemail went something like this: “Matt give me a call, we had a fire in unit 3 and it looks to have spread to the other units. The fire department is still trying to put the fire out. No one was home at the time. It’s bad.” My heart sank when I received that voicemail. After pacing around the house for 20 minutes I called insurance. I knew very little information at the time so I was only able to give the insurance representative some very basic info. The big takeaway from the initial call was to secure the property once the fire department left. We were allocated what they called “emergency funds” to purchase items such as doors or plywood to secure the property. They wanted me to keep any receipts and my designated representative for this process would reach out to me the next business day.

The following Monday the insurance rep that would guide me through this process reached out to me. I gave him my property manager's contact information to help coordinate future meetings at the property. The main message during the conversation was to once again make sure the property was secure. They didn't want the tenant removing anything. Insurance was treating it like a crime scene. We scheduled a time for him and the local fire inspector to come out and tour the property to start determining the cause. The two of them, along with my property manager, met and discussed what the fire department suspected happened. The fire had originated from unit three, which of course was a remodeled unit, and spread to unit one above it. The other two units fortunately only had smoke damage. There was no exterior damage. While this meeting was very stressful for me, one funny thing that came from it was the firefighter’s story about breaking into cat lady’s unit and 12 cats running out the door. They were only able to catch three and were worried they wouldn’t come back. Good or bad, all 12 cats came home a few days later. 

After my insurance rep met with the local fire inspector, insurance scheduled their own fire inspector to come out to the property and rebuild the scene. They spent hours going through the unit and confiscated the oven which I thought was strange. This occurred about 2 weeks after the initial fire. A couple days later, I was contacted by another insurance representative who explained she would be communicating on my behalf with the tenant's insurance. It had been determined that the tenant was at fault. The tenant was arguing otherwise. Insurance had confiscated the oven because they had determined a specific burner had been left on with a pot of oil on it. The fire department's investigation supported the theory of an oil fire. The representative claimed that they would be going after her insurance to reimburse my deductible. This is still ongoing. 

On March 22nd, one month after the fire, I received a line-by-line quote from insurance to repair the fire damage and 6 month's worth of rent for the displaced tenants. I sent the quote to my contractor, who was already on site working on one of the other units being remodeled, and he confirmed that he could fix the fire damage for the quoted amount. Insurance was very open to negotiating the terms of the quote. About a week later, I received two checks from insurance. One for the repairs and one for the six months of rent for the displaced tenants. To this day, we have fixed two of the smoked damaged units and the fire damaged unit is almost completely remodeled. 

I was terrified when I received the initial call that a fire had broken out in one of our 4-plexes, but the process was surprisingly smooth and not a bad experience at all. The combination of insurance, the local fire department, and my property manager made this a very easy process to go through, a process where I could have been completely hands off if I had chosen too. 

Post: Thoughts on Springfield Missouri

Matthew CopePosted
  • Investor
  • Nixa, MO
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 14

@Hugh Carnaha, Pint's N Properties... That's such a great idea and 4x4's a great brewery. I can't wait for them to open up their second location because it's really close to my house. 

@Michelle Herschend hit the nail on the head about drug abuse being one of the largest problems here. We're dealing with that currently close to one of our properties. 

When you're in town @Dylan Whitcher, I definitely recommend Architect Coffee Co. It's usually packed, but they have some of the best coffee around.

Post: Thoughts on Springfield Missouri

Matthew CopePosted
  • Investor
  • Nixa, MO
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 14

Hey Dylan, I live and invest in Springfield, MO. Springfield's a great place to invest in. The population's growing and in 2020, the number of renters surpassed the number of homeowners in the city. Last I saw, we were the only city in MO with more renters than homeowners. There seem to be a lot of people moving here from the west coast. The population has grown each year since the 50s. The city is expanding south. If you talk to some of the locals, you'll hear this stigma about the north side, but we've had a lot of good luck with the north and central parts of Springfield. You just have to be careful with the neighborhoods that you pick. Like any city, there are some neighborhoods that are trending in the wrong direction and you would want to avoid (drugs, crime etc), but there are also a lot trending in the right direction. A lot of pockets have turned around from investors flipping neighborhoods.

There is a supply shortage still, so like everywhere else, prices are really high right now. My wife and I focus on small multi-family and the market has been extremely competitive. We were constantly getting outbid by all cash offers, over asking price, that waived any inspection. All of the multi-family properties that list on the MLS for a decent price are usually gone within 24 hours. A friend of mine has a large flipping business in Springfield, but he's had to shift his business strategy for now because single family homes are in the same position. Good deals are still out there, but we've had to start focusing off-market to get them.

With all of that being said, I'm a big advocate for investing in Springfield. It's just more difficult right now than in the past. Hope that helps. 

Post: Mortgage junk mail going to rental properties.

Matthew CopePosted
  • Investor
  • Nixa, MO
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 14

Thanks Jabran! I'll take a look at that. 

Post: Mortgage junk mail going to rental properties.

Matthew CopePosted
  • Investor
  • Nixa, MO
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 14

I'm use to getting a bunch of mortgage junk mail after a closing, but we recently found out that junk mail, addressed to my wife and I, is going to one of our rentals in Springfield, MO after a cash-out refi. We've refinanced multiple properties over the past few years, which makes me assume that each of these properties are receiving the same spam. I hate that our tenants are receiving this. We forwarded our address from that property to our home, but it's only good for a year. 

Is there a better way to get around this or prevent it?

Post: Questions to ask an Agent

Matthew CopePosted
  • Investor
  • Nixa, MO
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 14

Hey Evan. We met our agent through our property manager. When we first met him, two things stuck out to me that led us to using him. He primarily worked with investors and he owned his own rental properties. 

Now that we've used him for a deal, a couple attributes have been extremely beneficial. He's got a good knowledge of what max rents specific neighborhoods in our city will support. He also knows what needs to be renovated or updated in a property to reach those max rents. This also helps prevent us from over renovating a property above what the area will support in rent. 

Since he primarily works with investors, he has developed working relationships with the local investor community. We purchased a duplex last year and we were competing against multiple cash offers at asking price (we were using financing). This property had recently come back on the market because the previous buyer fell through during the closing process. We offered below asking price and requested maintenance credits to address some deferred maintenance. Our offer was accepted. The seller claimed after the fact that he went with our offer because he had sold a property to an investor that our broker represented in the past and he was confident that the deal would close with our investor representing us. The seller's primary motivation was to close the deal. I believe that without our agent and his working relationship with that seller, we wouldn't have gotten that deal.  

These are a couple characteristics of our agent that have been extremely beneficial over the past year. Hope that helps. 

Matt

Post: New Year's Resolutions

Matthew CopePosted
  • Investor
  • Nixa, MO
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 14

That's great to hear Chase. Republic's a good area. Happy New New Year Briana! "417er" ... I love it.

Post: New Year's Resolutions

Matthew CopePosted
  • Investor
  • Nixa, MO
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 14

Hey neighbor! I live in Nixa. I'll be out of the state most of January, but plan on being at the REI group meeting in February. Can't wait!

Post: New Year's Resolutions

Matthew CopePosted
  • Investor
  • Nixa, MO
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 14

Thanks Danielle! Happy New Year!

Post: New Year's Resolutions

Matthew CopePosted
  • Investor
  • Nixa, MO
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 14

Last year, my wife and I made a 2021 goal to buy our first multi-family property. We already owned two single-family properties that were both successful buy and hold rentals. We exceeded our small goal this year after purchasing a duplex and a 4-plex, using the same strategy that we used on the single-family rentals (purchasing properties that had room for sweat equity and increased rents). 

Next year, our goal is to be more involved in our local real estate community (Springfield, MO) by joining our local REI group and to get to know the local investors. We're also going to be more involved in the BiggerPocket's community. I've followed BiggerPockets for years, but never posted in the forum. I also need to stop dragging my feet and add a stinking photo to my profile!

Our other 2022 goal is to purchase a property with a partner. So far, we've added eight units to our portfolio on our own, but there seems to be so much potential with partners. I read a ton of the books that are recommended in the Podcasts, but I want to surround myself with other investors that I can learn from and continue growing. Something I've learned over the past year is that there are a ton of people that have money and want to invest in real estate, but don't know where to start. That's just from my small group of friends and co-workers that I see on a daily basis. I can't wait to see what 2022 brings.