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All Forum Posts by: Matt McCurdy

Matt McCurdy has started 10 posts and replied 121 times.

Post: Paying utilities on a Multi-Family and it's eating all of my cash flow. (Iowa)

Matt McCurdy
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  • Real Estate Coach
  • Cedar Rapids, IA
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 53

I've had good success billing actual market rent and then billing utilities separately. Let me know if you want some marketing tips as I've seen good success with it in the Cedar Rapids market.

Post: Insurance Options for a Mobile Home Community with a Lagoon

Matt McCurdy
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  • Real Estate Coach
  • Cedar Rapids, IA
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 53

Thanks to all who messaged me privately and @Chris Mason, I found Auto Owners was pretty competitive.  

Post: I keep seeing and hearing the midwest is the new hot spot

Matt McCurdy
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  • Real Estate Coach
  • Cedar Rapids, IA
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 53
Quote from @Ryan Dunn:

Is the midwest looking to you guys as a great new place to look? I know the cost is on the low side for houses. BP podcast has talked about it a ton in the last few months. The rents are still close to the 1% rule. But how do you guys see the midwest for appreciation in the next 3-8 ish years? 

Ryan,
These "top investment lists" are getting a bit out of hand.  I wouldn't follow the lists/pundits and follow the data and what your personal goals are from an investing standpoint.  What the Midwest is: 1) AFFORDABLE 2) Cashflows.  What the Midwest isn't: 1) An appreciation bell cow, but it also doesn't dip like the coasts either (think more stable) 2) Sexy

I see some questioning if the Midwest is truly legit, because RE agents are chiming in here trying to get business.  Here's a RE broker's perspective:  I get plenty of investors wanting to invest in Iowa all days of the week, but I'm not worried about trying to get out of state investors to invest.  The way I see it, those investors have a set criteria.  Either the market fits them or it doesns't.  There doesn't need to be any salesmanship.

To answer your last question, what do you see from the Midwest for appreciation?  No one has the crystal ball to know with certainty.  My thoughts are we just saw unprecedented migration from COVID where many people and families moved, because they could go where they wanted to go.  Many of these places are now "unaffordable."  Is it too much to envision people will chase "the American Dream?"  Where little Tim and Jenny can get a good education, the family can live in a modest house, and still have enough left over to save for retirement?  I think the only region left in the US that fits this mold is the Midwest.

Post: Insurance Options for a Mobile Home Community with a Lagoon

Matt McCurdy
Posted
  • Real Estate Coach
  • Cedar Rapids, IA
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 53

Does anyone have any insurance companies they've used for insuring a mobile home community with a lagoon?

Post: I need some advice

Matt McCurdy
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  • Real Estate Coach
  • Cedar Rapids, IA
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 53
Quote from @Ethan McManigle:

Hello, my name is Ethan. I'm 22 years old. I want to save up and buy my first property but idk what the best way to save that money is. Should I use a traditional bank account? Should I invest my money in bonds/stocks? If not I looked on Vanguards website and they had a short-term Roth IRA. That I can set up for a personal goal. (Which depends on how much money I need to save up for) I was thinking about doing that for about 3ish years. I would like to save up for a down payment on a duplex. I can put aside about $130 each week. idk if that will change anything or not.

So my questions are

1. Where should I save my money?

2. How much money do I need for a duplex? (USA, Iowa area)


 What metro are you looking at in Iowa?  The amount will vary dependent upon the city/town.

Post: I need some advice

Matt McCurdy
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  • Real Estate Coach
  • Cedar Rapids, IA
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 53
Quote from @Tanner Lewis:

Set aside enough for a 20% down with sufficient reserves. Normally, I suggest aiming for $45k+ if you are looking at $140k+ deals. Note that anything under $100k loan amount will be hard to find financing. 


 That's not true.  I've had plenty of local banks in Cedar Rapids, Iowa willing to loan on deals less than $100k.

Post: Being the BEST Operator

Matt McCurdy
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  • Real Estate Coach
  • Cedar Rapids, IA
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 53
Quote from @Logan M.:

The greatest secret to business is learning how to be an exceptional Operator. This is the person who ensures the implementation of the overall strategy of the business.

In the mobile home park investing niche, I have found a near-limitless opportunity in underperforming parks. There are several reasons why they are underperforming, but I want to focus on the opportunity it creates. If you know how to maximize your communities you can repeat that strategy over and over again. This could be rent collection, filling vacancies etc etc

Being a savvy Operator coupled with Seller Financing removed 99% of your barriers and allows you to repeat it over and over again.

Recap:

Learn to operate communities at an effective level.

Learn creative financing to lower the barriers of entry and increase ROI.


 1000% agree!  Just to be clear, YOU don't have to be the operator, but YOU need to have known how to do it and ensure the operator you employee (either as in house or through a PM company) needs to know how to do this at a high level.  I've found having clear flowcharts and processes for the business creates a high level of success and less failures in the future.

Post: Cash Flowing Rental Property Still Exists!!!

Matt McCurdy
Posted
  • Real Estate Coach
  • Cedar Rapids, IA
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 53
Quote from @Dan H.:
Quote from @Matt McCurdy:
Quote from @Dan H.:
Quote from @Matt McCurdy:

I'm constantly reading on BiggerPockets investors saying you need to buy rental property, break even, and hope for appreciation and/or lower rates in the future to cashflow. WRONG!!!

I'm here to tell you I'm still finding cash flowing deals in my market.

Here's an example:

Up/Down Duplex

Each Unit 2 beds 1 bath (all utilities split out & paid by tenants)

Total Rent: $1,450/mo.

$125k purchase price (20% down) @ 7.5% over 25 year term: $739

Property Taxes: $125/mo

Insurance: $175/mo (in 500 year floodplain)

Net Cashflow: $411/mo*

Obviously, I didn't include property management fees, vacancy, nor repairs/maintenance. I've found every investor treats those costs differently in their pro forma, but this gives you the idea. Is anyone seeing better cash flow in their markets?


I agree that there is no standard on estimating expenses but the closest thing to a standard is the 50% rule. I find in low rent markets (Midwest) or high HOA markets (Florida condos) that the 50% rule is aggressive and expenses are likely to exceed 50%.

Cash flow projection using 50% rule:

1450 - 725 (expenses at 50%) - $739 (mortgage) = ($14).  You could have reduced mortgage slightly with 30 year term and likely would reflect some small amount of positive cash flow but still I would refer to both cases as being cash neutral. 

Now the issues:

- at that rent point, $725 unit, the 50% rule likely is not enough to cover actual expenses

- that rent point, $725/unit, reflects poor historical rent grow.  The implication is cash flow is  unlikely to improve significantly better than inflation.   If so, this property is going to be very slow to provide decent cash flow  

- at that price, $125k, it shows poor historical appreciation.  This property likely will not appreciate faster than inflation which implies in inflation adjusted dollars there is no appreciation.  
- residential RE even with the use of a PM is not passive.  It must make money to justify the effort.  The goal is not to own property, the goal is to make money.

 I do believe by taking an active role, you can make money on this purchase.  Self manage, save ~10%.  Do your own maintenance items and reduce maintenance/cap ex costs.  It will be difficult to scale to life changing with the active role, but you can learn a lot.

I do not post to beat you up. I post to give you and other readers something to ponder. I believe everyone needs to start and I commend you for that. I also think it is important to educate on the journey. I hope pondering my points provides items to consider and that they are at least evaluated for likely validity for future acquisitions.

good luck and learn as much as you can with this purchase   


Full disclosure, I have enough rental properties that I've pivoted from buying and I'm helping other investors over the next couple of years via my Brokerage and 1-4 unit coaching. 

I don't take offense to your challenge, but one thing is certain broad stokes via percentages can get you in trouble very fast. The devil is in the details and mostly all of your quick math assumptions are incorrect. $125k property is actually showing better appreciation than the properties that are $300k+. Real estate is hyperlocal. Rent and price appreciation has been keeping up with inflation (most of the time reaching higher than inflation). The properties PITI, Property taxes, and insurance would be ~$1k per month. Even if you included $100 per month in maintenance/repairs and $100 in property management (I know a PM that will do 7%) you'd still be cashflowing ~$250 per month. 12% CoC return based on 20% down. Not great, but the main point I was trying to illustrate is many think they need to buy property earning a 0% CoC return to "get their foot in the door" to real estate. This is simply not true, at least in my market.


 I can tell you have never filled out a maintenance/cap ex cost spreadsheet because “Even if you included $100 per month in maintenance/repairs” is no where close for 2 units.   It may no cover just the two kitchens.  The apartment complex (large unit counts with own maintenance staff) cannot even achieve that maintenance/cap ex.   

I know a PM that will do 7%”.  Is this all inclusive.  Does it cover placing a new tenant, lease renewals, at least property inspections per year?   I would be shocked if you can get a competent Pm to manage those units at $50.75/month ($750 * 0.07) per unit. 

$125k property is actually showing better appreciation than the properties that are $300k+”. Numbers do not lie.  The $300k+ property has experienced the better historical LONG TERM appreciation as evidenced by it being higher priced.  However I thought I would look deeper so I looked up the appreciation of Cedar Rapids on NeighborhhodScout.  It showed 1 out of 10 nationally for last 5 years, 10 years, and since 2000.  That is a rare trifecta of poor long term appreciation. Since 2000, 2.36% annual appreciation.  Its average residential property value has fallen in inflation adjusted dollars.  Being an investor you may be doing better than average appreciation but my point still applies. 

As I indicated, the 50% rule is typically aggressive at that rent point.   You may make some modest return but residential RE even with use of PM is not passive.  The return needs to justify the effort.  The return needs to have ability to noticeably improve life.  Does this property meet that criteria for you?

I wish you the best.  


 "Lead with questions, answers will follow."

This duplex was flooded in the 2008 flood, so much of it was gutted with new mechanicals.  We had a derecho in 2020, so the roof, siding, and windows are all new from 2020. I'm not sure what you mean by covering kitchens.  Both are in good condition and should be serviceable for plenty of years to come.

Yes, 7% is legit.  I just met with the guy last month.

California may be your cup of tea.  I for one, appreciate (no pun intended) Iowa and all it has to offer. My net worth does too!

As I said prior, I'm not investing for the next couple of years to help other investors in my market.

Post: Cash Flowing Rental Property Still Exists!!!

Matt McCurdy
Posted
  • Real Estate Coach
  • Cedar Rapids, IA
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 53
Quote from @Manny Vasquez:

I purchased a multi-unit in Los Angeles this past May 2023 and I am definitely cash flowing on that property. It was an REO purchase and I'm cash flowing net, approximately $1800. I purchased another property in the Palm Springs area that I converted into an STR which is also cash flowing.

Yes, there are absolutely cash=flowing properties out there but they are not low-hanging fruit.  You won't find these properties every time you go into Zillow.  One has to look and dig and search for these properties.  

Agreed!  Those who are using generic calculations aren't going to find the opportunities that present themselves.

Post: Cash Flowing Rental Property Still Exists!!!

Matt McCurdy
Posted
  • Real Estate Coach
  • Cedar Rapids, IA
  • Posts 129
  • Votes 53
Quote from @Dan H.:
Quote from @Matt McCurdy:

I'm constantly reading on BiggerPockets investors saying you need to buy rental property, break even, and hope for appreciation and/or lower rates in the future to cashflow. WRONG!!!

I'm here to tell you I'm still finding cash flowing deals in my market.

Here's an example:

Up/Down Duplex

Each Unit 2 beds 1 bath (all utilities split out & paid by tenants)

Total Rent: $1,450/mo.

$125k purchase price (20% down) @ 7.5% over 25 year term: $739

Property Taxes: $125/mo

Insurance: $175/mo (in 500 year floodplain)

Net Cashflow: $411/mo*

Obviously, I didn't include property management fees, vacancy, nor repairs/maintenance. I've found every investor treats those costs differently in their pro forma, but this gives you the idea. Is anyone seeing better cash flow in their markets?


I agree that there is no standard on estimating expenses but the closest thing to a standard is the 50% rule. I find in low rent markets (Midwest) or high HOA markets (Florida condos) that the 50% rule is aggressive and expenses are likely to exceed 50%.

Cash flow projection using 50% rule:

1450 - 725 (expenses at 50%) - $739 (mortgage) = ($14).  You could have reduced mortgage slightly with 30 year term and likely would reflect some small amount of positive cash flow but still I would refer to both cases as being cash neutral. 

Now the issues:

- at that rent point, $725 unit, the 50% rule likely is not enough to cover actual expenses

- that rent point, $725/unit, reflects poor historical rent grow.  The implication is cash flow is  unlikely to improve significantly better than inflation.   If so, this property is going to be very slow to provide decent cash flow  

- at that price, $125k, it shows poor historical appreciation.  This property likely will not appreciate faster than inflation which implies in inflation adjusted dollars there is no appreciation.  
- residential RE even with the use of a PM is not passive.  It must make money to justify the effort.  The goal is not to own property, the goal is to make money.

 I do believe by taking an active role, you can make money on this purchase.  Self manage, save ~10%.  Do your own maintenance items and reduce maintenance/cap ex costs.  It will be difficult to scale to life changing with the active role, but you can learn a lot.

I do not post to beat you up. I post to give you and other readers something to ponder. I believe everyone needs to start and I commend you for that. I also think it is important to educate on the journey. I hope pondering my points provides items to consider and that they are at least evaluated for likely validity for future acquisitions.

good luck and learn as much as you can with this purchase   


Full disclosure, I have enough rental properties that I've pivoted from buying and I'm helping other investors over the next couple of years via my Brokerage and 1-4 unit coaching. 

I don't take offense to your challenge, but one thing is certain broad stokes via percentages can get you in trouble very fast. The devil is in the details and mostly all of your quick math assumptions are incorrect. $125k property is actually showing better appreciation than the properties that are $300k+. Real estate is hyperlocal. Rent and price appreciation has been keeping up with inflation (most of the time reaching higher than inflation). The properties PITI, Property taxes, and insurance would be ~$1k per month. Even if you included $100 per month in maintenance/repairs and $100 in property management (I know a PM that will do 7%) you'd still be cashflowing ~$250 per month. 12% CoC return based on 20% down. Not great, but the main point I was trying to illustrate is many think they need to buy property earning a 0% CoC return to "get their foot in the door" to real estate. This is simply not true, at least in my market.