All Forum Posts by: Chase Gruening
Chase Gruening has started 17 posts and replied 30 times.
Post: Negotiations and Cap Ex

- Nashville, TN
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Originally posted by @Hai Loc:
Its really hard to be accurate on a cap ex.. But I would high ball it at 10% just for yourself. You cannot use 10% during negotiations unless it is justifiable
What is useful during negotiations is if you are really good at pricing replacement costs for like roof, windows, furnace, hot water tanks etc.. and divide the cost by life expectancy and have a good idea of how much it would come out to per year then you can use that number to justify a cap ex amount.
This is the appraisers approach on figuring out the value on those common cap ex components.
Remember you don't have to do this upfront. You can always renegotiate after an inspection or when you can get estimates and figure out how much life is left on those structures/mechanicals.
I don't recommend this but I know investors who agree to a contract at asking price and adjust it according to inspection results. The danger in this is you can be so far apart on price after inspection and the deal flops and you wasted a lot of time when the seller was expecting a sale price very close to initial offer.
Good luck
Thanks for the response. You are using 10% of what? Monthly rents?
Post: Negotiations and Cap Ex

- Nashville, TN
- Posts 30
- Votes 3
Originally posted by @Hai Loc:
Its really hard to be accurate on a cap ex.. But I would high ball it at 10% just for yourself. You cannot use 10% during negotiations unless it is justifiable
What is useful during negotiations is if you are really good at pricing replacement costs for like roof, windows, furnace, hot water tanks etc.. and divide the cost by life expectancy and have a good idea of how much it would come out to per year then you can use that number to justify a cap ex amount.
This is the appraisers approach on figuring out the value on those common cap ex components.
Remember you don't have to do this upfront. You can always renegotiate after an inspection or when you can get estimates and figure out how much life is left on those structures/mechanicals.
I don't recommend this but I know investors who agree to a contract at asking price and adjust it according to inspection results. The danger in this is you can be so far apart on price after inspection and the deal flops and you wasted a lot of time when the seller was expecting a sale price very close to initial offer.
Good luck
Thanks for the response. You are using 10% of what? Monthly rents?
Post: Negotiations and Cap Ex

- Nashville, TN
- Posts 30
- Votes 3
Originally posted by @Tj Hines:
@Chase Gruening if the seller is firm and tight there's no other way to get to the closing table other than give the seller what they want. Or ask for a 10-20K repair allowance back from the seller at closing out of the 330K PP
What is the advantages/disadvantages to seller by doing this opposes to just lowering the sale price. I am not familiar with this approach.
Thank you
Post: Negotiations and Cap Ex

- Nashville, TN
- Posts 30
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I am getting close to getting a contract on my second multifamily deal. I am having trouble estimating a accurate cap ex and we are about 20k apart on 330k counter offer. The deal involves 3 separate duplexes (6 total units) all next door to each other....
One of them needs a new roof. The total rents can be raised to the low end of the market about $350 total. AS IS it will cash flow about $150 per door with the worst month of expenses and 5% vacancy rate (great location), fully rented right now. I have proof of annual expenses from water, tax, insurance companies that I used to calculate expenses. I have only estimated 1,000 per month in my cap ex (3,000 total) per year in my calculations.
I know this is not very accurate and would like opinions on how get that more accurate. More from experience the a general rule of thumb. These are good properties in above average condition. All updated.
Also in terms of getting closer in negotiation. Any ideas or suggestions in order to get closer to a contract?
Thanks.
Chase
Post: Leases on a Multifamily

- Nashville, TN
- Posts 30
- Votes 3
@Brian Van Pelt can you explain the term boiler plate a little bit more?
Post: Leases on Multifamily

- Nashville, TN
- Posts 30
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Patricia,
Thank you! That is very helpful.
Any insight as to why this happens everyday? I took an hour of a attorneys time that was recommended by several people. With no bills or correspondence for almost a month.
Thanks!
Post: Leases on a Multifamily

- Nashville, TN
- Posts 30
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I was recommend to meet with real estate attorney in the my area of investing (Springfield, IL) for quality state "bullet proof" state specific leases for Illinois. Legally sound and is in great pdf format allowing me to interchange names and numbers easily along with my companies branding on them.
Three weeks later...
After meeting with attorney I was told I would receive lease the next day via email and be billed separately. After multiple calls and emails I have still received nothing. Secretary said she would pass along information, personal email, and voicemail to attorney. Still nothing.
I have accepted that this is unacceptable service and not the type of business I want to work with. My concern is I will see leases and bill some random day. However, I am still left without a quality lease for new tenants I am acquiring. In time sensitive need for a quality lease or attorney for multifamily property in Springfield, IL.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Chase
Post: Handyman in Sangamon County IL

- Nashville, TN
- Posts 30
- Votes 3
Soringfield, IL property
Getting first four plex running smoothly. Taking my time before turning it over to a quality PM that I have been recommend too and have vetted over time (any PM recommendations are welcome).
In the mean time would like to find handymen in the area for odds and end jobs....
Small electrical work
Drywall work
Emergency calls
Etc.
Any help would be awesome!
Thanks.
Chase
Post: Leases on Multifamily

- Nashville, TN
- Posts 30
- Votes 3
I was recommend to meet with real estate attorney in the my area of investing (Springfield, IL) for quality state "bullet proof" state specific leases for Illinois. Legally sound and is in great pdf format allowing me to interchange names and numbers easily along with my companies branding on them.
Three weeks later...
After meeting with attorney I was told I would receive lease the next day via email and be billed separately. After multiple calls and emails I have still received nothing. Secretary said she would pass along information, personal email, and voicemail to attorney. Still nothing.
I have accepted that this is unacceptable service and not the type of business I want to work with. My concern is I will see leases and bill some random day. However, I am still left without a quality lease for new tenants I am acquiring. In time sensitive need for a quality lease or attorney for multifamily property in Springfield, IL.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Chase
Post: New investor from Taylorville, IL

- Nashville, TN
- Posts 30
- Votes 3
Hi Craig, I am investing in Springfield at the moment and very familiar with Taylorville.... grew up in Sherman. Good luck getting started!