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All Forum Posts by: MIlton Monzon

MIlton Monzon has started 16 posts and replied 39 times.

Post: 4 plex brrrr and fire damage

MIlton Monzon
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  • Investor
  • Utah/California/Connectictut
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 25
Quote from @Malcomb Stapel:

@MIlton Monzon  nice work. I'd be interested in hearing more details about whatever scam the contractors pulled on you. (it always helps to learn from others peoples experiences)

Is RCN Capital a hard money lender? 

 @Malcomb Stapel. Thank you! Yes RCN capital is a HML. Have done 4 deals with them already since I began in September. Christine Naidoo is my go to. Yes feel free to reach out with any questions you may have.

Quick summary:  After building a relationship with them (so I thought) I gave them this bigger project.  Even though they had done 3 for me already I still interviewed various contractors for this rehab and my go to guys were giving me the best qoutes.  So I went with them.  Everything was going well, they got permits pulled, sending updates daily, etc.  I continued to see them posting their work and now others began reaching out to them.  

Ultimately they took in too many jobs and with my big project they pushed it to the side and got overwhelmed with multiple jobs.  I messed up by lowering my own rules and gave them almost 75% of the money before I can left confirm it was completed.  (I messed up by thinking I could trust them at this point).  So eventually they ran off with 22k worth of materials and work never completed and what was done was very poor workmanship.  

They completely ghosted me, lawyers said it would cost 5-10k to even begin the process, and the city continues extending the contractors listing on the city because if he replies to them within 10 days of initial contact they have to give him another 10 days to respond so apparently he's been responding on the 9th day even time lol.  Anyways I had to pay another 25k to another contract to finish this project and another that I will post later but that's pretty much what happened.  

Post: 4 plex brrrr and fire damage

MIlton Monzon
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  • Investor
  • Utah/California/Connectictut
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 25

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $173,000
Cash invested: $77,000

One of 4 units was burned for this property. Needed a total gut and everything done to it including siding, windows, sump pump. I bought it with the roof completed so that was a plus. Wholesale fee of 13k and a contractor scamming me. Tons of lessons on this one. 3/4 units were empty needing a full remodel. Got it done and now all fully rented and modernized. Expected a 260 ARV and the appraisal came back at 319k. Got all my invested money in and more to reinvest and still have cashflow.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

I was intimidated by fire damaged properties but the numbers made sense and I took the risk. Def had a few anxiety attacks taking the leap. Turns out the biggest risk here was not the fire damage but the CON-tractors that stole approx 22k. Had they not I would have only used 55k of the 77k listed.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Wholesalers given to me from references. Biggest thing was networking and being the first one to be given the offer was a plus. Being an out of state investor having a well established team was critical. Luckily to start off I had that with my agent, property management, etc.

How did you finance this deal?

RCN capital was a huge help for this deal. Could not and would not have done it without them.

How did you add value to the deal?

Remodeled all units with LVP, stainless steal appliances, electrical, plumbing, and lunar paint throughout.

What was the outcome?

Tenants that met all the rental criteria, support from the community, debt paid out.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

This one is tough. The contractors that scammed me had already completely 3 other projects for me and did a fantastic job. I even took them out to dinner when I visited. I interviewed them, had referrals, checked their EIN and records, etc. At the end of the day I still got scammed. Then they did it to a lot of others in the same time frame.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Yes Brenda Engel from New London Ct, amazing agent and RCN Capital.

Post: 4 plex brrrr and fire damage

MIlton Monzon
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  • Investor
  • Utah/California/Connectictut
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 25

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $173,000
Cash invested: $77,000

One of the 4 units was burned for this property. Needed a total gut and everything done to it including siding, windows, sump pump. I bought it with the roof completed so that was a plus. Wholesale fee of 13k and a contractor scamming me. Tons of lessons on this one. 3/4 units were empty needing a full remodel. Got it done and now all fully rented and modernized. Expected a 260 ARV and the appraisal came back at 319k. Got all my invested money in and more to reinvest and still have cashflow.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

I was intimidated by fire damaged properties but the numbers made sense and I took the risk. Def had a few anxiety attacks taking the leap. Turns out the biggest risk here was not the fire damage but the CON-tractors that stole approx 22k. Had they not I would have only used 55k of the 77k listed.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Wholesalers given to me from references. Biggest thing was networking and being the first one to be given the offer was a plus. Being an out of state investor having a well established team was critical. Luckily to start off I had that with my agent, property management, etc.

How did you finance this deal?

RCN capital was a huge help for this deal. Could not and would not have done it without them.

How did you add value to the deal?

Remodeled all units with LVP, stainless steal appliances, electrical, plumbing, and lunar paint throughout.

What was the outcome?

Tenants that met all the rental criteria, support from the community, debt paid out.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

This one is tough. The contractors that scammed me had already completely 3 other projects for me and did a fantastic job. I even took them out to dinner when I visited. I interviewed them, had referrals, checked their EIN and records, etc. At the end of the day I still got scammed. Then they did it to a lot of others in the same time frame.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Yes Brenda Engel from New London Ct, amazing agent and RCN Capital.

Post: Cash out refi at 75% or Refi at 80% (not cash out)

MIlton Monzon
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  • Investor
  • Utah/California/Connectictut
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 25
Quote from @Andrew Postell:

@MIlton Monzon thanks for posting here.  There's some details that aren't clear to me but I think I've got enough here to make a formal recommendation but let me know if I am missing anything.

Your cash flow THIS YEAR might be low.  Next year, when you raise rents cash flow will be better.  And the year after when you raise rents, and the year after and so forth.  I never guess at what rate will do (what if they never go down?) but rents increase.  In 20+ years of investing I've never decreased rents on a property.  Think long term when it comes to real estate - don't just think about not cashflowing so well for 1 year.  Think about 5 or 10 years from now and that usually shows you the right method to use.

Now, to specifically answer your question about taking cash out, I'll ask a different question - what's your other plan?  As in, how else are you going to get $40k-$50k to invest?  Would it take you 4 years of cash flowing on this property to invest in another property?  If so, that's a long time to wait.  Do you already have lots of cash laying around currently?  So your "Plan B" to NOT taking cash out is really important.  If you don't have a Plan B - then I would strongly recommend considering taking the cash out.  Remember, it's tax free money. The interest you pay is tax deductible.  And even at 7.5% you are still borrowing BELOW the current rate of inflation.

And the main thing that I was confused on was how can you take a 75% LTV cash out loan....but have a 80% LTV "NO CASH OUT" loan...that wouldn't really be possible. But maybe it was just an error or something. Anyways, I hope this helps in some way. Thanks!

@Andrew Postell  Thank you for your reply.  That  is a very good point.   I will def keep that in mind.

Yeah so the lender I have done a few deals with offers a no cash out refi at 80% ARV and for a cash out refi max they would do is 75%. Threw me off too because I would love a 80% cash out refi.

Post: Cash out refi at 75% or Refi at 80% (not cash out)

MIlton Monzon
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  • Investor
  • Utah/California/Connectictut
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 25
Quote from @Sergey A. Petrov:

cash it out (you can always refi later when the rates go back down). or a straight no cash refi + HELOC. how long has it been since you purchased and started cash flowing? you might run into seasoning requirements...

@Sergey A. Petrov thank you for the reply.  That is a good point and it’s been 4 months. I am planning to refi around November/December time frame. Lenders I’ve worked with don’t require a seasoning period fortunately.  Have you had luck or positive experience doing a heloc on a property under an entity?

Post: Cash out refi at 75% or Refi at 80% (not cash out)

MIlton Monzon
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  • Investor
  • Utah/California/Connectictut
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 25

Good Afternoon BP team,

I have a big decision to make in the near future for one of my current rehabs.  I am going to get some recommendations with the current rate trends/ potential turn in the future. I have a 4 plex that I purchased at 173k with 1 tenant in place and now has 3 tenants in place with 3 of 4 remodeled units and 4th one finishing up this month.  Work after being scammed by a contractor (following all the due diligence steps i could have) was about 90k.

This property cash flows a lot right now with just the 3 of 4 tenants. Once fully done will most likely appraise north of 400k considering other comps. So the options here are:

1) should I do a cash out refi with current trends but be stuck with a high interest rate since it's an investment property and under an LLC (with buy down I'm looking at 7.5%). I would be able to pull 75% of the appraised value and get all my money back and have approx 40-50k more to reinvest. However cash flow would still be there but probably below 1000$ after all expenses and PMI. Cash out would be about 300k.

2) should I do a straight refi (currently in a hard money loan at 9%) at 80% with no cash taken out and let the property continue to bring in 2500-3000 a month after expenses? Still would be at about 7-8% interest rate after buy down and with 700+ credit score. However this PMI will only be with a balance of 195k since HML put up some of the rehab costs.

Concerned of cash out with high interest rate and potentially being able to do it in the next 3-10 years with a smaller interest rate in the future. Also concerned of leaving so much equity in place during a potential opportunity to stay in the game while others are away.

I appreciate any feedback and any of you that read my entire post.

Very Respectfully,

Milton  

Post: Mobile Alabama market insight

MIlton Monzon
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  • Investor
  • Utah/California/Connectictut
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 25
Quote from @Connor Hubbard:
Quote from @Andrew Della Pelle:

Looking to invest in out of state rental properties. Looking at mobile Alabama and wondered if anyone else has invested in this market and has insight? 

I bought my first two SFR’s in Mobile 100% remote while living in Austin, TX. I’ve since moved to Mobile to house hack a duplex for my third property in Mobile. I am currently living in half of that duplex in West Mobile with my fiancé and I finally made the jump to full time real estate investor. 

I am always happy to discuss investing in Mobile!

@Connor Hubbard hope you are doing well. I’m in mobile now. You have time to link up?

Post: Mobile Alabama Real Estate

MIlton Monzon
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  • Utah/California/Connectictut
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 25
Quote from @Stacey R Simmons:

I am looking for anyone looking to buy property in Mobile, Alabama in the "Down the Bay" area.  My mom has old property on Broad Street, with an old home that needs to be torn down or we can work that out.  We are trying to help her get the best deal she can with that property to help her buy a home.  My understanding is that they are moving the airport down to Brookley Field, this property is also commercially zoned, so might be worth looking into.  There were a couple of companies that approached her a few years ago but she was being stubborn and missed those deals.  I feel that some of the local agencies are not offering the best deal, considering that area will be bustling and property more precious in the near future! I can give more information if anyone interested.  Thank you!!

Hi @Stacey R Simmons I am interested. Can you please reach out to me.

Post: Buy and Hold Duplex in CT

MIlton Monzon
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  • Utah/California/Connectictut
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@Michael Noto Thank you! Next step is to build up some more money for the next deal and find a great buy and hold with a BRRRR opportunity. Should take me about 3-4 months before I'm ready to search again but pumped.

Post: Buy and Hold Duplex in CT

MIlton Monzon
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  • Investor
  • Utah/California/Connectictut
  • Posts 40
  • Votes 25

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment in Connecticut.

Purchase price: $132,000
Cash invested: $36,000

Very good condition older duplex in Connecticut. Inherited tenant of two years with very positive background and history and wanting to stay even with market rent increase. Generating great cash flow with a 16% COC return. Blessed with a fantastic agent who was there during the long distance investing obstacles. Goal is for long term hold and continue to grow for more near by.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Reading all the forums and seeing all the success investors are having in the bigger pockets groups. Already had experience with a single family and a condo. Wanting to expand my real estate portfolio.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Found it through agent referral when original buyer backed out. Negotiated 13k off asking price. Originally offered 25k less but they countered meeting us in the middle. Ended up appraising 3k more than negotiated price.

How did you finance this deal?

Private money for downpayment and bank loan.

How did you add value to the deal?

It does have knob and tube wiring so electrical update will be happening in the middle of 2022 but that helped negotiations.

What was the outcome?

Able to raise rents to higher market rent and have a property ready for move in.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Consider closing cost to be higher than calculated and expected. Closing cost came in 2k more than I had budgeted for but luckily I had reserves to cover it.

Challenges would be being patient with oneself and the process. Took 45 days to close and throughout the process when asking questions there was a lot of silence from the lender and seller when important stuff came up. Luckily the lender would follow through with everything they promised.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Worked with Brenda Engel an amazing agent especially as an investor and RCN capital for lender. They were great to work with and follow through on their services.