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All Forum Posts by: Michael Wagner

Michael Wagner has started 37 posts and replied 805 times.

Post: Scott Meyers - Self Storage Academy

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I've been to two of Scott's events before and will be at this one as well! The content and networking is VERY high level. Easily worth 3-4 times the cost of a ticket. 

Post: Looking for Self Storage and Self Storage Partners

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Hi Justin,

I too am into the value add storage thing and also shop nationally. That said, I kind of stink at jet lag so I will definitely keep you in mind if I come across any off market deal in your neck of the woods.

Mike

Post: Ground up self storage business - need guidance

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I second the vote for @Scott Meyers!

Post: Too small to be big. Too big to be small.

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Originally posted by @John Brennan:

Thanks guys. It’s nice to know my initial desire to go with self storage isn’t dead. 

So here is the next twist. I’m in the NYC area which is way to high value for me to start so whatever I buy will be far from home. So I can’t self manage and I wouldn’t trust an in site manager when I can’t be there to oversee them. I’ve been researching the tech for an unmanned facility and it’s interesting but there still needs to be someone hired for clean outs, auctions and a lot of other stuff that I’m sure I don’t even know about. 

I see that the five million and above market is very competitive but there are plenty of smaller facilities on the market for exactly this reason. The management conundrum. 

 I use a 3 pronged remote management strategy to remotely manage properties from NY to Florida.  The role you are referring to here is what I call "boots on the ground".  Very easy to have the onsite tasks done for $300-600 per month.  Finding the right person for that job is clearly a key to success.  Tying in an online portal and call center rounds out the strategy. 

Post: Too small to be big. Too big to be small.

Michael Wagner
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I think you've created a false choice here....you say you need to either buy a $5 million dollar self storage property or switch industries. I have bought 3 storage facilities in the $300-500k range and have spend 5-10 hours per week managing them. Big 3rd party management companies are not the end all and be all for day to day operations. I'm happy to share some resources that you might find helpful (and eye opening). Shoot me a PM if you'd like to connect.

Mike

Post: Loopnet real estate trash bin

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Be careful jumpting to conclusions about Loopnet....As they say.....One man's trash is another man's treasure.  I've bought two storage facilities that I found on loopnet (and had a student buy a third).  First one was bought for $330K and sold for $1.8 Million after $400K in expansion money infused into it.  Second one was bought $465K and is worth $860K today.  Last one (my students) was bought for $400K and is projected to be worth $850-900K within 24-36 months.  

Post: Self Storage properties

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I follow a strategy very similar to @Ken Jernigan.  Tertiary markets are just about the only place I look for storage:)!!I would advise a newer investor to not get the wrong idea about a university.  While colleges are a great economic driver for a given area (and therefore a good considerations), too often, new storage investors think that students are a great customer...and they are but only from May to August so basing a year round business solely on a seasonal customer can get you in trouble.  

Post: Self storage units as an investment

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When I talk about investing in self storage, I am speaking about being an OWNER. I see myself as the asset manager but  am not doing much of the day to day stuff required. I use a remote management system that I've developed over the years. All that said, I ay primarily in the value add space so I do have a good bit of hands on during the transition into ownership and early months of ownership while the operational overhaul is put in place. I find this to be the highest and best use of my time. 

Post: Self Storage Investing - Pros vs Cons

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@Kevin Ferguson,

I can vouch for Scott's Academy.  Been several times and will be there again in January.  Time and money well spent both from an education as well as from a networking standpoint.  Be there if you can.

Mike

Post: out of town self storage unit - strategies

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Originally posted by @Joy Hagerty:

I have a contract on a 49 unit self-storage building plus a 4 unit commercial storefront.  but it is 3 hours away from me. what would be the best strategy to manage this.  there are a residential house and apartment/workshop on site. I can hire a manager and offer room and board.  but I don't know what is a good practice to get this started.

It is currently vacant as I am getting it from the bank.  but should not have a problem getting them rented out as I have just the desired size or rental in the market.  If I decide to sell it, what is the valuation practice, and timing as to holding period?

The rental income should be at $6,000 a month fully rented.  if you apply 85% rule, that will be $5,100.  Purchase price is 250K.  should I hold on to it since it is 3 hours away?

thank you

Ken / Joy

 Ken/Joy,

This certainly sounds like a great deal assuming the market can support the units!  49 units is on the small side for a property this far away from home but the Value add potential seems to make it a worthwhile investment! I own self storage in 3 states (soon to be four) and can say without hesitation that it is absolutely possible to run this remotely.  Doing so is much easier if you have a fence and electronic gate but that might not be a necessity if you have a very attentive manager.  The downside is the manager is an ongoing cost and a fence/gate is a one time cost.  I've developed a three pronged approach to managing small to medium sized self storage properties remotely and would be happy to share what I've learned over the last 8 years.  Shoot me a PM and we can connect.

Mike