Originally posted by @Jon Q.:
Originally posted by @Michael Wagner:
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:
@Michael Wagner I also recommend if one is to get into the business you need to have facilities that you can afford to have on site management.
That is certainly true for someone who is not able to or does not want to handle the day to day operation. But making such a recommendation does require that we first know of one's motivation. As a hypothetical example, If someone is trying to replace a $100,000 per year income that they currently earn working 60 hours a week....they might do very well with a smaller facility (say 20-30K sq. ft)....They could Net darn close to the $100K in income working just 15-20 office hours per week. It always circles back to one's goals for investing.
My first facility could not support on site management (except for my free labor) when I bought it. It was only 10K sq. ft. and was losing $2,000 per month when I took it over. It now does much better and is at 30K sq. ft. with 15K more in the future and is large enough to justify onsite management but in the form of a part time manager who puts in 16 hours per week plus appointments. My second facility is under 20K sq. ft. and doesnt really justify on site management. I manage it from my cell phone as it is close to home and that works well for us as the first facility made me unemployable:) The 20,000 sq. ft. facility takes about 5 hours per week of my time and it hums along pretty good.
Micheal,
How many units was each of these deals you referenced? Would you recommend a minimum size to get started?
In general, what per unit minimum would you need to support an onsite manager?
In regard to debt financing, does SS differ from MF at all? If so, how do?
Thanks!
My first deal was roughly 80 storage units plus 70 outdoor parking spots. Only generated$50K in gross revenue when we started but it was only half full and had potential for $100K as it sat. We've since increased to 170 typical units, 10 covered RV spots with electric and 70 outdoor spots. Out next 15,000 sq. ft. will add another 100 units or so but will cannibalize the outdoor storage as we are out of space.
Our second facility was 117 units when we bought in 2014. It is now 200 plus 18 outdoor spots. We will replace the outdoor spots with 25 traditional spots this summer if all goes to plan.
The ability to sustain an onsite manager comes down to finances. Every market is different so a per unit minimum isnt all that meaningful. A really expensive (per unit facility) with only 20 garages @ $400 per month might not support a manager in a large market. But a run of the mill tertiary market facility with 250 units going for $80 on average will easily support a part time manager plus an after hours call center if needed. With that, its better to look at the facility as a whole as opposed to "per unit" calculations. Unit mix can also have dramatic effects on per unit calculations as well as type of management required. 5' x 5' units will get more per square foot but will turnover much more frequently than a 10' x 40' unit will and will therefore require more "management.
As for financing, I think you will find it similar to MF except that up until recently (say 5-10 years ago) it was harde to find lenders with experience in the sector. Now that the SBA is willing to loan on SS, you will find many more options. Typically, 20% down is pretty easy to come by. Once a relationship with a bank is developed, 10% down is also doable. Rates in my area have been around 5% or so in the $250K to $1M range.