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All Forum Posts by: Michael Wagner

Michael Wagner has started 37 posts and replied 805 times.

Post: New Investor - Rochester, NY

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Originally posted by @Martin Grizzanti:

I would like to learn more about investing in Storage Unites

 Happy to chat storage anytime. I'm actually hosting a workshop locally in March. Shoot me a message if you are interested in that.

Post: Self Storage Investing Workshop in Rochester, NY

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Originally posted by @Brandon Gentile:

Would you ever be doing an online series? Cant make it to NY... Thanks, Mike!

 I hope to be able to record the session and get it up online but I am still trying to put those pieces together.  Will keep you posted for sure!

Thanks for the interest,

Mike

Post: Use of multi-family zoned vacant land

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What is the size of the vacant parcel?  Anything under 2 acres is pretty tight to set up a stand alone storage facility.  To give you an idea, you can probably build storage from ground up (assuming nothing crazy with the land...environmental, massive earth work, jungle, etc) for somewhere around $30 per square foot. Zoning is always a key factor too.

If "storage" is allowed as a primary use on that third parcel, it may be as an accessory use to the MF. You could combine the parcels and build garages that would be available only to the tenants of the MF?

Post: Self Storage Investing Workshop in Rochester, NY

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Originally posted by @Mark Updegraff:

@Michael Wagner Syracuse sounds great :D Will you be there? Maybe we'll see @Kent Stauffer too

 I will be there.  Also one night at SPAC...not sure which one yet.

Post: Self Storage Investing Workshop in Rochester, NY

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Originally posted by @Mark Updegraff:

Nice!  I'm reserving my spot for sure!!

Thanks @Michael Wagner for providing your insight on self storage.  I've been toying with the idea for years and am ready to get some hands on knowledge to prime the pump before diving in!!

 Look forward to seeing you there @Mark Updegraff

FYI- FFREIA members get in for $119!

As an aside....I saw the D and C article on you.  How's it feel to be famous? Also, don't work so damn hard! Perhaps you should take July 10th off and go to Syracuse!

Post: demographic info profiles

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Originally posted by @Martin Z.:

any sites where I can get free demographic profiles? Besides Esri, any others?

 http://mcdc2.missouri.edu/websas/caps.html

Can work in 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 mile radius from property. Only catch is you need longitude and latitude of the property.

Post: Storage Units? I'm confused by my own math... maybe...

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Originally posted by @Shane Short:

So, I'm 20 years old and I live in Portland. I'm very intrigued by storage units and would really like to invest in them at some point. Especially since so many people are moving to Portland each year. But I feel like my math must be wrong... Or so many people would be buying up storage units, and building them, etc... so I'm curious how much income can a storage unit company pull in. Especially in a place like Portland where an average storage unit is $175 per, some $275, and the lowest i've found being 120 for a very very small one. If this is true, I was talking to a manager at one and they had 750 units. And they managed to pack them in, in about 2.5 acres. At an average of 175 per unit, give or take, that's a Net Income of $131,250.00 per month, thats $1,575,000.00 net income per year..... now even if  i'm 31k off per month, that's 1.2 a year... am I missing something? And she said they are completely full and havent had any issues filling them ever... I feel like even after taxes and bills, and stupid tenants causing issues you should still have a net profit of like 600k a year? 

Storage is AWESOME...I don't know anything about your market but I can tell you that as a general rule, Storage Facilities operate with a 30-35% operating expense. That means, if the Gross income of a facility is 1.2 Million, you are going to spend about $400,000 on day to day expenses. That will leave $800,000 to cover debt service and whatever is left after that would be your profit. Please keep in mind that these are hypothetical numbers based on industry standards. Anyways, if we assume a market cap rate of 10%...that NOI of $800,000 means the facility should be valued at $8 Million. Lets further assume that you bought such as facility with 25% down. A mortgage on $600,000 at 5.25% over 20 years would cost roughly $485,000 annually. SO, your $2,000,000 down payment yields you $315,000 in cash flow. Taking that alone, you have a very healthy cash on cash return. Factor in your principle pay down and the returns are even better. Conceptually you have discovered that Storage has STRONG underlying financials! Feel free to check out my blog here on BP for a few posts that might offer a bit more insight.

All the best,

Mike

Post: What would you do?

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Originally posted by @David Edelstein:

Current Situation:

1. Bought a 2bed / 2bath condo in NYC for $800k in 2011, with $500k down $300k mortgage.

2. Condo is netting approximately $2k a month. It has a 15 year tax abatement that will start escalating in a year or 2. This will start cutting into the net cash flow.

3. Condo can be sold for $1.4m for a net profit of $600k. Would leave the deal with $1 mill cash, if 1031.

Desired Situation with new:

1. Something that cash flows better than $2k / month.

2. Minimal management time unless cash flow is greater then $10k. If cash flow is greater than $10K, I could do it full-time without having the day job. That would be ideal. If it is less than $10K need to keep the day job, so would want minimal managerial duties.

3. Open to moving out of NYC, if #2 above can be obtained (in a warm climate) and my family likes the place. Otherwise, need something close by.

4. Don't want to pay capital gains, so 1031 is probably required. Concerned about making the timelines. 

 Have you looked at self storage as an assett class.  With the $1M you could invest, you'd easily be able to get into a facility large enough to achieve all that you stipulated as your goals.  You could probably get into something that would be lucrative enough to leave your job and still only require 10-20 hours of your work per week....(once you learn the industry of course but that doesn't take long.)

You've got what we call GREAT PROBLEMS TO HAVE RIGHT NOW.  Enjoy it and keep us posted on your progress.

Mike

Post: Hi, I'm a new member out of Rochester NY

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Originally posted by @Austin Spite:

Scott Speer,

Are those sessions recorded? I have a prior scheduled engagement and would be very grateful if there is copy of this specific session. I have been to one of the FFREIA meetings before and it was extremely beneficial. I definitely look forward to attending again.

Best Regards,

Austin M. Spite

 Hi Austin, Welcome to BP.  In order to be sure that other folks are made aware of your messages, use the @ symbol to tag folks like @Scott Speer. This way they will be notified of your mentioning them. 

As far as I know FFREIA meetings are not recorded.  Truth is, much of the value is the networking that occurs so a video would, while beneficial, leave you short changed. 

What areas of REI are you interested in?

Mike

Post: What would you do if you have 150k cash?

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Personally, I am inclined to use that money to purchase a self storage facility....it goes without saying that I would not just buy any facility.  I would need to find one that fit my buying criteria but from an investment standpoint, there is no better vehicle grow your money.  Self storage rents at the same price as apartments 9per square foot) but the expenses run only 30-35% whereas MF expense ratios are 50% or more.  Additionally, the legal system is set up to favor owners of storage facilities as opposed to being "tenant friendly" like it is in the world of habitational real estate.  These, among other reasons, are why storage is my go to.  As you said though, this is a very general question and depends on your goals!